Re: [Rosegarden-user] RG woes with Debian

[Silvan <dmm...@us...>]

On Thursday 03 November 2005 07:43 am, Ketil Thorgersen wrote:

> There's no modconf on my ubuntu at least. On the ubuntu wiki pages this

Can you install it?  Just because it isn't there by default doesn't mean it 
isn't installable.  Although having said that, I have no idea what K/Ubuntu 
has done in the way of non-Debian-style module twiddling.  For that matter, 
it's possible that modconf is just some legacy thing from yore that is only 
installable to please crusty bastards like me (like LILO, for instance.)

> is the tip provided:
> sudo mknod -m 666 /dev/snd/seq c 116 1

> Very primitive since it must be run every time.

I've seen this floating around here too, but I don't know why it's necessary.  
I'm guessing that it's because that new udev thing isn't configuring the MIDI 
devices correctly.  I'm not using udev yet, and I don't even really know what 
udev is.  It says my kernel is too old, and I say that's fine with me, I'll 
just keep using hotplug, thanks.

Anyway, this sort of crap smacks of why I got rid of devfs back a few years 
ago.  It had similar retarded problems not automatically creating the right 
things at boot, and then you'd create them, and then they'd go away, because 
devfs turned /dev into a virtual directory like /proc, and nothing you 
created there actually existed outside of RAM.  Pain in the ass to figure out 
how to configure it correctly, and I could live without it just fine, so 
PLOOT, that one went into the crapper right beside aRts.

I think udev is the successor to devfs, and from the look of things with this 
mknod advice floating around, it's probably also a pain in the ass that 
provides wonderful benefits to the twelve people in the world who give a 
flying rat's ass about the obscure kernel problem it's trying to solve, and 
just makes life for all the rest of us complicated for no benefit we will 
ever be in a position to appreciate.

Probably, but maybe not.  I never have bothered to figure out what udev was.  
I figure I'll deal with it when I have absolutely no other choice, and until 
then, if it ain't broke....

> I wanted to start hydrogen and rosegarden too, but my bash skills are
> bad so I tried to configure QJackqtl to start rosegarden and hydrogen
> instead. I first opened rosegarden and hydrogen, checking that they were
> connected the way I wanted to, and then pressed "patchbay" chose new and
> answered "yes". Now I had a patchbay definition that I hoped would start
> hydrogen and rosegarden with the right connections, but while the
> definition loads fine, the apps doesn't start.
>
> Does anyone know a way to do this either vie a script or via QJacktl or
> another tool?

I don't think the patchbay flummy is supposed to actually start applications, 
is it?

I've never actually bothered to figure it out, but I think it's just so you 
can load your bits and bobs, hook them up, and then save how you had them 
hooked up, so that the next time you load your bits and bobs again, you can 
hook them back up the same way.  I think you have to run all your bits and 
bobs by hand, or out of a script.

I have no idea though, as I never have gotten around to working out some way 
to do this automatically.  I just stupidly hook everything up by hand the 
same way every time, because at the moment I'm doing it, it seems faster than 
figuring out an easier way.  (I can get away with this since I leave all of 
this stuff running for weeks on end, and don't set it up very often.)

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