From: sammy <dis...@ya...> - 2005-05-21 14:34:41
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"I have a laptop with an on-board ATI SoundMAX chipset (AC'97 codec)..." This is precisely why i'm struggling with getting timidity working... i've got the same chipset. --- ros...@li... wrote: > Send Rosegarden-user mailing list submissions to > ros...@li... > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > ros...@li... > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ros...@li... > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rosegarden-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: timidity and rosegarden (SlowPic) > 2. Re: timidity and rosegarden (Silvan) > 3. Re: timidity and rosegarden (metroguy) > 4. Re: timidity and rosegarden (SlowPic) > 5. Re: timidity and rosegarden (Silvan) > 6. Re: timidity and rosegarden (Silvan) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:26:35 +0200 > From: SlowPic <sl...@we...> > CC: ros...@li... > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] timidity and > rosegarden > > Hi Sammy, > > I made a little shell script for my purposes which > starts all I need: Basically, it does the following: > > timidity -iA -B0,8 -Os1l -s 44100 -L > /usr/local/share/timidity/soundfonts -c > ./SoundFont.cfg > > Some things to take into account: > * I use ALSA alone, not jackd (like many/most others > here) > * "artsd" is *not* running, I had no success while > it ran > * You need soundfonts, put it in a directory of > choice and > refer to it with the "-L" parameter as shown > > "./SoundFont.cfg" is a text file in the local > directory. Within > I tell which SoundFont I want timidity to use. So I > can use > different SoundFonts in different contexts. > > The easiest way to check if your timidity setup uses > Soundfonts > is > > timidity -B0,8 -Os -s 44100 -L > /usr/local/share/timidity/soundfonts -c > SoundFont.cfg file.mid > > from the command line (ALSA must be active, artsd > must not!). > > Good luck, > Frank > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> > To: ros...@li... > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] timidity and > rosegarden > Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:39:56 -0400 > > > > * You need soundfonts, put it in a directory of > choice and > > refer to it with the "-L" parameter as shown > > Depending on your distro, you (he) may be able to > install something called > "freepats" and use that with no need to specify > anything manually. That > works here, on Debian Sid. Results will probably > vary, but "freepats" is > probably available as a package for other distros > too. It's also the closest > thing extant to a free soundfont. > > Can Timidity use .sf2 soundfonts as well? This > "freepats" thing is a > collection of GUS patches, and I have always > operated under the impression > that Timidity is basically a GUS (Gravis UltraSound) > emulator. Perhaps this > has been an erroneous assumption. > > -- > Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan > <dmm...@us...> > Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux > user #243621 > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ > http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 07:55:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: metroguy <met...@ya...> > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] timidity and > rosegarden > To: ros...@li... > > I use Timidity with "sf2" font files downloaded > from hammersound.net, namely, Unison and Music > Theoria2. Being fairly new to Midi, I have not heard > of "freepats" I wonder how it compares to the two > fonts above. > > On another note and this is probably not the right > forum for it, but this seems to be a pretty > knowledgeable group sooo ..... I have a laptop with > an > on-board ATI SoundMAX chipset (AC'97 codec). Sound > works perfectly using the "atiixp" ALSA driver, > selected via alsaconf, however, Midi doesn't work > with > KMid or Rosegarden. > Does anyone know if this chipset supports Midi in > hardware? I am using FluidSynth to get by until I > can > find out more about this chipset. > > MG > > > --- Silvan <dmm...@us...> wrote: > > > > > * You need soundfonts, put it in a directory of > > choice and > > > refer to it with the "-L" parameter as shown > > > > Depending on your distro, you (he) may be able to > > install something called > > "freepats" and use that with no need to specify > > anything manually. That > > works here, on Debian Sid. Results will probably > > vary, but "freepats" is > > probably available as a package for other distros > > too. It's also the closest > > thing extant to a free soundfont. > > > > Can Timidity use .sf2 soundfonts as well? This > > "freepats" thing is a > > collection of GUS patches, and I have always > > operated under the impression > > that Timidity is basically a GUS (Gravis > UltraSound) > > emulator. Perhaps this > > has been an erroneous assumption. > > > > -- > > Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan > > <dmm...@us...> > > Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered > Linux > > user #243621 > > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ > > http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space > > Sweepstakes > > Want to be the first software developer in space? > > Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412&alloc_id=16344&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > Rosegarden-user mailing list > > Ros...@li... - use the > link > > below to unsubscribe > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > > > > > > Discover Yahoo! > Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for > the weekend. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:14:26 +0200 > From: SlowPic <sl...@we...> > To: ros...@li... > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] timidity and > rosegarden > > Silvan schrieb: > >>* You need soundfonts, put it in a directory of > choice and > >> refer to it with the "-L" parameter as shown > > > > Depending on your distro, you (he) may be able to > install something called > > "freepats" and use that with no need to specify > anything manually. That > > It's true what you are saying. OTOH you have no real > control > about which SoundFont file will be used by Timidity, > following > the entries in the timidity.cfg file. I prefer > selection of > well defined sound fonts for the work with a > particular file > in Rosegarden. > > Rosegarden offers the option to preload a particular > sound font, > though and it offers bank import for the names. I > have all my > soundfonts in "SoundFonts.cfg" and all but one are > commented. > I put a copy of this file in whatever music project > directory > I want to work. > > Then, I change to that directory and start my script > "rosegarden-sound-gui" which restarts timidity with > the locally > available SoundFonts.cfg configuration file. As I > said, there > is only one active entry, all others are commented > with "#". > > > works here, on Debian Sid. Results will probably > vary, but "freepats" is > > probably available as a package for other distros > too. It's also the closest > > thing extant to a free soundfont. > > Concerning sound quality, it's important what you're > after. > In my case, I need some good sounding natural > instruments > like Violin, Cello, Oboe and such. I found some good > ones > and mixed them together in a custom sound font, so I > have > all sounds at hands in a (IMO) good quality. > > > Can Timidity use .sf2 soundfonts as well? This > "freepats" thing is a > > collection of GUS patches, and I have always > operated under the impression > > that Timidity is basically a GUS (Gravis > UltraSound) emulator. Perhaps this > > has been an erroneous assumption. > > Yes, Timidity can use .sf2 fonts. This is the main > reason > I had no need for GUS patches. Well, it depends on > what > you need. The mentioned classical instruments were > available > in good quality as *.SF2 only ..... for free, > certainly :) > > Regards, > Frank > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> > To: SlowPic <sl...@we...> > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] timidity and > rosegarden > Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:01:52 -0400 > Cc: ros...@li... > > On Friday 20 May 2005 11:14 am, SlowPic wrote: > > > It's true what you are saying. OTOH you have no > real control > > about which SoundFont file will be used by > Timidity, following > > No, and I was just trying to make it easier on the > newbie to achieve some > initial success right away. > > > Rosegarden offers the option to preload a > particular sound font, > > though and it offers bank import for the names. I > have all my > > It does? Into timidity? How? > > > I had no need for GUS patches. Well, it depends on > what > > you need. The mentioned classical instruments were > available > > in good quality as *.SF2 only ..... for free, > certainly :) > > Many things are available "for free" but are not > freely distributable. For > example, there are some good soundfonts at the > Personal Copy site, but I have > to tell people where to get them. I can't give them > a CD. Freepats is the > only exception I know of to this rule, and last time > I played with freepats, > it wasn't a complete set (and it sounded fairly > cheesy too, I'm afraid.) > > -- > Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan > <dmm...@us...> > Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux > user #243621 > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ > http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: Silvan <dmm...@us...> > To: ros...@li... > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] timidity and > rosegarden > Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:57:10 -0400 > > On Friday 20 May 2005 10:55 am, metroguy wrote: > > > Theoria2. Being fairly new to Midi, I have not > heard > > of "freepats" I wonder how it compares to the two > > fonts above. > > Poorly, I'm sure. I have "Unison" too. I seem to > recall it's pretty good, > though I like PC51f better. > > > On another note and this is probably not the right > > forum for it, but this seems to be a pretty > > knowledgeable group sooo ..... I have a laptop > with an > > on-board ATI SoundMAX chipset (AC'97 codec). Sound > > works perfectly using the "atiixp" ALSA driver, > > selected via alsaconf, however, Midi doesn't work > with > > KMid or Rosegarden. > > Does anyone know if this chipset supports Midi in > > hardware? I am using FluidSynth to get by until I > can > > find out more about this chipset. > > I don't know the chipset, but to the best of my > knowledge, the only two > chipsets that have a working on-board synth in Linux > are the emu10k1/2 and > the emu8000. Everyone else has to use a soft synth > or external equipment. > There may be other exceptions to this rule, but > yours is very unlikely to be > such an exception. > > ALSA's soundcard capabilities page really SUCKS, > BTW. No wonder people can > never figure any of this stuff out. For one thing, > it doesn't once say what > "ANio" is supposed to mean. We're left to work out > that it probably means > "analog I/O" for ourselves. > > [MIDIio] doesn't seem to mean anything to answer > this question either. It's > listed beside the ens1370, which has an external > port only, and beside the > emu10k1, which has both an external port and a > reasonably decent on-board > synth. > > This matrix doesn't answer the "does my soundcard > have an on-board synth that > works" question at all. > > But anyway, yours doesn't even have [MIDIio] beside > it, so you have no > joystick port MIDI adapter, no on-board synth, no > nothin'. Like most people > with on-board audio of any flavor, you're going to > have to use a soft synth > or go buy a real soundcard or something. Sorry. > (Windows makes you use a > soft synth on hardware like this too, incidentally. > It's just built into the > driver, and hidden from sight.) > > -- > Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan > <dmm...@us...> > Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux > user #243621 > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ > http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Ros...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > > > End of Rosegarden-user Digest > For the best selection of pre-owned septic tanks visit: Mediatronic Research Laboratory __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |