AW: [Rainbowportal-devel] Introduction & Suggestions.
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From: Christoph S. <sc...@co...> - 2004-03-11 15:42:01
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But it could be a start to answer some essential questions... I don't talk about closing forums and move to chats... I talk about = regular chats (maybe Monday afternoon) which one can participate voluntarily... -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rahul Singh [mailto:ana...@ya...]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. M=E4rz 2004 16:20 An: Christoph Schramm; rai...@li... Betreff: RE: [Rainbowportal-devel] Introduction & Suggestions. Cristoph, Chats are great, but they don't work for the type of dialogue that happens in software development. In addition to apparent chaos that starts when 4 people start talking at the same time, there is also an issue about the international crowd. People live and work at different timezones. Rahul --- Christoph Schramm <sc...@co...> wrote: > What about chats? > Couldn't we meet in a chatroom? > Just a suggestion ;) >=20 > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: rai...@li... > [mailto:rai...@li...] > Im Auftrag von manu > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Mdrz 2004 10:27 > An: 'Rahul Singh'; > rai...@li... > Betreff: R: [Rainbowportal-devel] Introduction & > Suggestions. >=20 > Hi Rahul, > Plenty of good suggestions here. >=20 > Anyway > 1) having 50 people that commit freely their code is > not a good idea for > many reasons. > The current version works decently because i have > made an huge work of > revising and fixing bugs and code (often after > release). If you give a quick > look at history you will see. > Most of the changes are discussed with developers > even before starting > writing code. > I think the best is to speak about change before > actually doing it. > I need that rainbow works and that does not change > each time. > For addtions is different but core should be as much > as stable as possible. >=20 > 2) Yahoo groups is not a viable solution for me. > - it's free > - has a good search > But > - adds a lot of banners on both forum and each > email.. > - I hate having a full screen banner before reading > each post on site. > - I hate having a full screen banner at the bottom > of each email that i > send. > - I hate having 50% of the screen wasted by things > that have nothing to do > with forum. >=20 > I'm open to any viable solution that can gather many > informations in single > place. > I tried to keep all infos in the same place when > possible. > Currently we have already too much different places > where one can found rb > infos. > IMHO i prefer to have a forum that can send emails > (just like a mailing > list) and can expose itself as rss feed and as a > NNTP server. > Aspnet forum is not the best software out there but > it is free. >=20 > 3) Different sites require different peoples, > resources, money.... > We at duemetri have done the best effort offering a > place where rb can live, > paying for hosting and give for free as much support > we could, by mail, by > forum, by mailing list, by messenger. > Anybody out there that wants to invest money, > hosting and time for run a > site for skins or other? > You welcome! > I have too oftens hear about goods and great ideas, > waiting for me to make > them real. >=20 > So I really like you offer at 2... Let's talk about > that. >=20 > Sincerly >=20 > ------------------------------------ > Emmanuele De Andreis > Technical Manager > DUEMETRI > Internet Solutions Provider > RAINBOW PORTAL > Main portal - http://www.rainbowportal.net > Sourceforge CVS - > http://sourceforge.net/projects/rainbowportal/ > Support Forums - > http://www.rainbowportal.net/ASPNetForums > Bug Tracker - > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D66837&atid=3D515929 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: rai...@li... > [mailto:rai...@li...] > Per conto di Rahul > Singh > Inviato: martedl 9 marzo 2004 20.37 > A: John M; rai...@li... > Oggetto: RE: [Rainbowportal-devel] Introduction & > Suggestions. >=20 >=20 > [Before you read, know that I am trying to show > alternatives that have worked. I don't want to waste > people's time if they don't care to see differently. > Let's get rolling.] >=20 > I don't even want to waste my breath on the topic of > what is a better medium to communicate on.=20 > Outlining the "it is going to be there in the next > version" is a useless measure.=20 >=20 > All the search and view features that you talk about > are already on the yahoogroups. Not only are the > messages searchable, it > is done using a half-decent search algorithm, unlike > the clobbered up full-text search in the asp.net > forums. ( i have seen=20 > the code, and it isn't the best one out there. >=20 > The asp.net forums crash often. I could put a > monitor > on that directory on my Ipmon and show you that it > has > about 95 percent uptime. > (ghastly) >=20 > You still don't get the point. All this organizing > for > this version and next, where is the dialogue? If it > is happening, it should > be news. Where do i see it? Nowhere. >=20 >=20 > The whole POINT of an open source project is for > outside commits. Filtration should be done after > people commit code NOT before. > Maybe I didn't express myself clearly enough. > Observe > the best practices of open source projects that have > been around for 5-10 years and then > come back to argue your point of view.=20 >=20 > If 50 people produce code, obviously there needs to > be > someone there to approve it. The movement isn't too > different from a mailing list approve.=20 >=20 > The reference to DNN was to show that they have > multiple sites. But my argument is to show that the > current site TRIES to be 5 sites in one. > This evades all common sense in any type of business > model , whether open source or not. There is no > focus. >=20 >=20 > Rainbow has never said you couldn't have your own > site. The one thing I wouldn't be too keen on is > creating different rainbow versions (Like the issues > DNN had when splinter versions started to appear). > If > you wish to help users by creating a site then that > is > great news....go for it.=20 >=20 > Open source projects never have problem with content > if they stay linked together. The search engines are > optimized to find clusters of sites with like > subjects. The key to finding information is to get > listed. FreshMeat. SourceForge. HotScripts. ... the > list goes on.=20 > Interlinking of subject areas on the web makes what > is > called a subject cluster. If there are 2-3 entities, > the subject is considered small. Why is the home > page > of rainbow portal the only page that shows up > google? >=20 > Aren't there 50+ pages on the site? If it is such an > attraction point of all the related content, why > can't > i find it? The portalsearch doesn't work.=20 >=20 > What is the total throughout put of the rainbow > forums? 10 posts a day? This mandates 20 groups?=20 >=20 > I talked to cory about the physical meetings and my > point was to show that online collaboration should > be >=20 =3D=3D=3D message truncated =3D=3D=3D __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you=12re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com |