Taking out ELB shouldnt be that big of a deal.  I mean here are the steps.  Remove the dll and take teh reference off and see where shit breaks.  Fix where shit breaks and compile/test.  I plan on removing it anyway in aqua regardless if its causing a Zen issue.  I dont even understand why Zen is a topic.  We can make a better Zen theme based off of some Zen designes ive seen.  We can use 2.0 skins/themes which is the very thing Microsoft created for this issue.  I personally am dropping Zen all together in Aqua unless someone makes it in skin/theme form.

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