From: Ramiro Téllez Sanz <urcindalo@gm...>  20100923 12:04:03

Thanks very much Thomas for your help. > no need to implement common linear algebra functions, there is the > chempy.cpv module shipped with pymol (and there is numpy as well). > > Ramiro, I recently did something similar, just adjust the residue > selection in the code below (requires numpy): > I have pymol compiled with numpy support, so I have everyhting needed. However, please excuse my ignorance in this matter, as I'm just beginning to use pymol and have some basic questions: * How do I adjust the code with my selected rings? Do I need to include both residues in the same selection in pymol, then rename the selection, and then include the chosen selection name in the code where you write "selection"? * How do I run the code after I adjust it with my "selection"? I have never run a python program from within pymol. What should I do? Thanks in advance. > python > from chempy import cpv > import numpy, math > def plane_normal(selection): > stored.x = list() > cmd.iterate_state(1, selection, 'stored.x.append([x,y,z])') > x = numpy.array(stored.x) > U,s,Vh = numpy.linalg.svd(x  x.mean(0)) > return cpv.normalize(Vh[2]) > dir1 = plane_normal('A/37/CG+CD1+CE1+CZ+CE2+CD2') > dir2 = plane_normal('A/41/CG+CD1+CE1+CZ+CE2+CD2') > print 'Angle in degrees:', math.degrees(cpv.get_angle(dir1, dir2)) > python end > > Cheers, > Thomas > > On Thu, 20100923 at 13:02 +0200, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote: >> Hi Ramiro, >> >> A bit of linear algebra wouldn't hurt... :p >> In python: >> >> def vsub(a,b): return a[0]b[0], a[1]b[1], a[2]b[2] >> >> def dot(a,b): return a[0]*b[0]+a[1]*b[1]+a[2]*b[2] >> >> def svmul(s,a): return s*a[0], s*a[1], s*a[2] >> >> def normalize(a): return svmul(1/math.sqrt(dot(a,a)),a) >> >> def cross(a,b): return a[1]*b[2]a[2]*b[1], a[2]*b[0]a[0]*b[2], >> a[0]*b[1]a[1]*b[0] >> >> a = cmd.get_model('r. phe and i. ##RESIDUE1## and n. cg,ce1,ce2').atom >> a = [ i.coord for i in a ] >> b = cmd.get_model('r. phe and i. ##RESIDUE2## and n. cg,ce1,ce2').atom >> b = [ i.coord for i in b ] >> >> na = normalize(cross(vsub(a[1],a[0]),vsub(a[2],a[0]))) >> nb = normalize(cross(vsub(b[1],b[0]),vsub(b[2],b[0]))) >> angle = math.acos(dot(na,nb)) >> >> print angle >> >> ### >> >> Haven't tested it, and there may be more efficient ways of getting the >> coordinates. If you run into problems like this more often, it's >> likely that you should pick up on algebra and programming... :) >> >> Have fun, >> >> Tsjerk >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ramiro Téllez Sanz >> <urcindalo@...> wrote: >>> Thanks for your kind help, Tsjerk. >>> >>>> Hi Ramiro, >>>> >>>> Assuming your rings are nicely planar, and representing the ring as: >>>> >>>> 123 >>>>   >>>> 654 >>>> >>>> you can get the plane normal vector as the vector cross product from >>>> (3)(1) and (5)(1). >>> OK. But I just started to use pymol. Which are the commands to do so? >>> I know how to get the coordinates of a selected atom, but need the pymol >>> commands to treat the data: >>> a) How to create the vectors from 1>3 and from 1>5 >>> b) How to treat the vectors to perform the vector cross product >>> >>>> Doing so for both rings gives you the two normal vectors. The angle >>>> then follows from the dot product of the (normalized) normal vectors: >>>> >>>> angle = acos(n1 . n2) >>> Again, I would need the commands to: >>> c) Normalize the vectors (how to set their modules = 1) >>> >>> I also guess n1 and n2 represent the normalized vectors, don't they? So >>> this command is very clear :) >>> >>>> It becomes a bit more elaborate if the planes are not planar :) >>>> >>>> Hope it helps, >>>> >>>> Tsjerk >>> Again, thanks very much in advance for your kind help. >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Ramiro Téllez Sanz >>>> <urcindalo@...> wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone and thanks for reading this! >>>>> >>>>> I am interested in measuring the angle between aromatic ring planes. >>>>> Is there any easy way/script to do it? >>>>> >>>>> One way that came to my mind is creating a pseudoatom representing the >>>>> centroid for each ring (I already know how to do that), then drawing two >>>>> lines perpendicularly to the planes from both centroids, and finally >>>>> measuring the angle between the lines. Will that be possible? How could >>>>> this be done? >>>>> >>>>> Is there any other way? I'm completely clueless. Any help will be >>>>> greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>> >>>>> Ramiro Tellez Sanz >>>>> Dept. Physical Chemistry >>>>> University of Almeria >>>>> Spain >> >>  >> Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D. >> >> postdoctoral researcher >> Molecular Dynamics Group >> Groningen Institute for Biomolecular Research and Biotechnology / >> University of Groningen >> The Netherlands 