Run PyCAM Does not work on Windows XP install

Gera
2012-06-30
2013-03-08
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  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-06-30

    I installed the requirements package in Windows XP Pro SP3 and got an error something about the CPU. I ignored it and continued.

    Then I tried to install PyCAM and got an MSVRC71.DLL error. I fixed it by restoring the file into the system32 folder.
    Then I installed PyCAM and it seemed to install successfully.

    Ran PyCAM and nothing happens, I also do not get any errors. It's blank.
    Restarted system and tried again with the same results.

    Running on an Intel ATOM D525MW motherboard and 2GB ram.

     
  • Lars
    Lars
    2012-07-03

    Hi gera,

    is there really no PyCAM windows visible at all? Or do you see a main window and the 3D view (blank)?

    If you can see the main window then please take a look at the log (View -> Log Window) and paste its content here. Maybe this will help us to find the source of the problem.

    cheers,
    Lars

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-03

    When I click to Run PyCAM nothing happens. No windows pop up or anything. I do not know whether it is running or not, how can I check?

    I can as well record what's happening if you would like me to and upload it.
    But it's like clicking a blank program, you click it but nothing happens, it doesn't open.

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-03

    Are there programs that can possibly interfere with PyCAM causing it to act like this? Such as CAD programs?

    I have AutoCAD and Inventor installed.

     
  • Lars
    Lars
    2012-07-04

    Hi gera,

    please do the following to debug this issue:
    - open the properties of the starter item ("Run PyCAM")
    - copy the given command line to the clipboard
    - open a windows console / terminal / … or however it is called (somewhere below "Accessories")
    - paste the previously copied commandline into the terminal and execute it by pressing the enter key

    Now you will hopefully see some helpful error messages.

    Regarding possible interference: I am not aware of any specific problems with other programs. OpenGL is usually a much more likely source of annoyance …

    cheers,
    Lars

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-04

    Nope nothing.
    Here is the command I got:
    C:\Python25\pythonw.exe "C:\Python25\Scripts\pycam-loader.py"

    I also went to the target folder and tried manually. Nothing.

     
  • Lars
    Lars
    2012-07-04

    Hi gera,

    that's really weird - I would expect at least a small bit of output …

    Please try the following things:

    (1) C:\Python25\python.exe "C:\Python25\Scripts\pycam-loader.py"
      the same as before - just with "python" instead of "pythonw"

    (2) C:\Python25\python.exe "C:\Python25\Scripts\pycam-loader.py" -d
      the same as before - but including the debug flag

    (3) run C:\Python25\python.exe:
      type "import gtk"

    I am curious what could cause this silent misbehaviour …

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-04

    Nothing and here are my outputs:

     
  • Lars
    Lars
    2012-07-06

    Hi gera,

    thanks! This screenshot contains a good amount of information.

    I am not sure about the complete situation but at least GTK for Python is missing.

    (1) Did you run the requirement installer?
          (http://pycam.sourceforge.net/download.html)
    (2) Did you make sure that you always selected "Python 2.5" when running the installer?

    Please tell me what went wrong with the installer …

    cheers,
    Lars

    PS: Sorry for adding the confusing colon to my third test pattern - it was meant to be just "C:\python25\python.exe". After starting this program you can type "import gtk". But anyway - the previous error messages provided enough information.

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-06

    The first post lists a few errors that I encountered while installing the requirement installer.

    I can try installing it again and take a screen shot of any pop up I get. Should I give it a try?

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-06

    Also, should I install to Program files or just to C:?

     
  • Lars
    Lars
    2012-07-06

    Hi gera,

    yes, I guess it would be a good idea to run the requirements installer again. Please keep all default install locations (e.g. "C:\" if this is the default) and take screenshots of everything that looks like a warning. The install process is well tested on Windows XP SP3, so I guess we will be able to make it work for you …

    cheers,
    Lars

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-06

    I just started installing the requirements installer and realized that the default location for requirements is Program Files. However for PyCAM it's in C:\. Should I change location of the requirements installer to C:\?

    I know I installed it to Program Files last time because the requirements are in that folder.
    Should I try again to the default location Program Files and report any errors or should I go ahead and install to C:\?
    I just hope the old install of the requirements installer uninstalls, I don't want my PC messy with extra files lol.

     
  • Lars
    Lars
    2012-07-06

    Hi gera,

    the various directories of the different components may feel confusing, but just follow the default that is given to you by each of these installers. This approach is well tested and should make sure that all components find each other.

    As a preparation you should probably remove all installed requirements. The following list is installed in my windows-based testing system. I am not sure if all of them are part of the requirements installer.
    - all-in-one-installer
    - GTK2
    - GTK2-Runtime
    - GTK2-Themes
    - GtkGLext
    - Python 2.5 multiprocessing
    - Python 2.5 processing
    - Python 2.5 psyco
    - Python 2.5 pycairo
    - Python 2.5 pygobject
    - Python 2.5 pygtk
    - Python 2.5 pygtkglext
    - Python 2.5 PyODE
    - Python 2.5 PyOpenGL
    - Python 2.5 pywin
    - Python 2.5.4

    Hope this helps,
    Lars

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-07

    Upon trying to uninstall I did not have any of the Pythons except the last one: Python 2.5.4.
    Also did not have GTK2-Themes and GTKGLEXT

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-07

    So here it is: Every picture shows the settings I used (Step 5 shows that I used \\\"install for all users\\\", during my first try before making this threading I selected \\\"install just for me\\\")

    In step 11 I chose compatibility DLLs just in case.

    The final step (step 15) is where the error is. Upon pop up I clicked close instead of ignore. Maybe I should have selected ignore to see if it continues to install and to see of any other errors that may pop up?


     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-07



     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-07

    I have a dual boot set up. LinuxCNC Lucid Lynx vs 10.04 with Windows XP Professional 32bit running on an Atom D525MW motherboard/CPU combo.

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-07

    Should I try again and select ignore in the end to see of any other pop-ups? I remember my first attempt I selected ignore and if I remember correctly there was another pop-up. Should I try it again and click ignore and take a screen shot if anything happens? Or is this enough information for you?

    Gera

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-07

    So what do I do?
    Run the exe file from the link you provided and then run the entire requirements installer all over again?

    In the FAQ whats the entry called?

    Thanks.

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-07

    Also the problem I face, is it a known common problem for Windows XP?

     
  • Lars
    Lars
    2012-07-07

    Hi gera,

    one other Windows XP user reported the same problem before ("NTVDM error has encountered an illegal instruction"). You can search for the thread in this forum.

    What do do now:
    (1) follow the link above and read the description of this download page til the end (there is the interesting part)
    (2) run the complete requirements installer again - this time you need to ignore the NTVDM error

    cheers,
    Lars

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-08

    Ok so I only downloaded and installed the exe file in the link you provided above. I do not know what DLL files they are talking about, but the install went good so I do not think I need to bother about the DLL files.

    Now reinstalling the all-in-one installer. Hope it works.

     
  • Gera
    Gera
    2012-07-08

    I clicked ignore, had to click it 3 times for the pop-up to stop popping up again. However the installer never continued, so I had to close the Command Prompt window (You can see it in step 15) and then it continued.

    I hope it works upon installing of PyCAM.

     
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