Hello Reini, et al:

Has anyone approached you yet about the Go PHP 5 project yet? It's a grassroots campaign to get projects to drop support for PHP4.

I loosely follow the Gallery project and it looks like they are about to join up (see below).

~swain

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From: Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com>
Date: July 10, 2007 10:36:40 PM EDT
To: Bharat Mediratta <bharat@menalto.com>
Cc: gallery-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Gallery-devel] The PHP 5 revolution

Hi again, Bharat.  It's not quite the list you had before, but does 30 
projects and 50+ web hosts count as "critical mass"?

http://gophp5.org/projects
http://gophp5.org/hosts

That's also not counting web hosts that offer PHP 5 as an option but not the 
default.  

I'm actually rather surprised myself at how much steam this has picked up.  I 
don't know if you follow php-internals at all, but they're actively 
discussing dropping PHP 4 support completely within the next year.  

Is this something Gallery could get behind at this point?

On Sunday 01 July 2007, Bharat Mediratta wrote:
Larry,

How's this progressing?  Andy pointed out that we should focus on the
high profile php4-only projects like ezPublish.  Serious hosts that
offer php4 only today will offer both versions when the pressure is on,
but it would help if there were less pressure to keep php4 around...

-Bharat

Bharat Mediratta wrote:
Larry Garfield wrote:
Thanks, Bharat.  I can understand your position, certainly.  What
would you consider "critical mass"?  Shear number or some number of
"big" projects (for some definition of big) or...?

Good question :-)  I think that we'd want to see the majority of the
best-of-breed applications in various different webapp categories
support this.

Here are lists of apps that our affiliate web hosts support:

And we'd want the top 3 hosts here to support PHP5 (I think that they
already do, but it wouldn't hurt to get them on the list):

If you can get 50% of those apps on board, I think that would be more
than enough.

As for advertising, I don't believe we're planning any sort of real
advertising.  This isn't a money-making venture by any means. :-)  We
plan to have a page/link for web hosts that offer 5.2 out of the box,
just as we'll list projects that are targeting 5.2, as an added
incentive for hosts to get on board; they get to appear
"future-friendly".  That's as close to advertising as we plan to get,
though.

Thanks.  That's what I figured, but I wanted to make sure that we were
clear :-)

-Bharat



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