Thread: [phpslash-users] how to do story-specific links?
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From: Kyle S. <ky...@rt...> - 2001-11-13 17:52:40
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I've been poking around the phpslash code, trying to figure out if it is possible for the "Related Links" fancybox to pull story-specific links (as opposed to topic-specific or section-specific). In the first place, these links would have to be stored in the database somewhere. I could just stick them in with the story HTML, but that's not as potentially useful as storing them in the mySQL table, where they could be represented/resorted/reused elsewhere. Since the web interface doesn't really support this, I guess I would have to insert the data via another method. I can do this, but where in the table should I put it? Is this a major hack of phpslash, or can this feasibly be done without too much pain? I imagine each story has a unique ID (does it?) and the links could be filed using that variable. But how to pull them out, phpslash style? In StoryRelated.tpl I see this code: <!-- BEGIN row --> {LINK}<br> <!-- END row --> But I'm not sure what it does or how to get {LINK} to pull something and display it. Can I get some pointers on how to accomplish this? I do have some PHP and mySQL experience, I'm just confused about how this stuff works. If this has been documented in the list already, I haven't been able to find it in the MARC archive. Then again, the MARC search engine absolutely stinks, so who knows? Any help would be appreciated. ./k [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: nathan r. h. <na...@ds...> - 2001-11-13 17:57:09
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Kyle Silfer wrote: > I've been poking around the phpslash code, trying to figure out if it is > possible for the "Related Links" fancybox to pull story-specific links > (as opposed to topic-specific or section-specific). > IDGI? What exactly are story specfic links? Yes it's possible, but I don't know where the links are coming from... -n > In the first place, these links would have to be stored in the database > somewhere. I could just stick them in with the story HTML, but that's > not as potentially useful as storing them in the mySQL table, where > they could be represented/resorted/reused elsewhere. > > Since the web interface doesn't really support this, I guess I would > have to insert the data via another method. I can do this, but where in > the table should I put it? Is this a major hack of phpslash, or can this > feasibly be done without too much pain? I imagine each story has a > unique ID (does it?) and the links could be filed using that variable. > But how to pull them out, phpslash style? > > In StoryRelated.tpl I see this code: > > <!-- BEGIN row --> > {LINK}<br> > <!-- END row --> > > But I'm not sure what it does or how to get {LINK} to pull something > and display it. > > Can I get some pointers on how to accomplish this? I do have some > PHP and mySQL experience, I'm just confused about how this stuff > works. > > If this has been documented in the list already, I haven't been able to > find it in the MARC archive. Then again, the MARC search engine > absolutely stinks, so who knows? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > ./k > > > [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== > [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== > > _______________________________________________ > phpslash-users mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpslash-users > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- nathan hruby / digital statement na...@ds... http://www.dstatement.com/ Public GPG key can be found at: http://www.dstatement.com/nathan-gpg-key.txt ED54 9A5E 132D BD01 9103 EEF3 E1B9 4738 EC90 801B -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |
From: Kyle S. <ky...@rt...> - 2001-11-13 18:20:57
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> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Kyle Silfer wrote: > > > I've been poking around the phpslash code, trying to figure out if it is > > possible for the "Related Links" fancybox to pull story-specific links > > (as opposed to topic-specific or section-specific). > > IDGI? What exactly are story specfic links? Yes it's possible, but I > don't know where the links are coming from... phpSlash supports topic-specific and section-specific "related links". What I am seeking is the ability to pull story-specific "related links" the same way. These links would not be existing related items as topic- and section- specific "related links" are, but rather external URLs manually inserted by the administrator or story author. Like I said, these could just be HREFs stuck in the story text, but it would be far cooler if they were in the database as individual items. Right now I don't see a way to insert such links in the database in the first place (at least not with the web interface). This is OK, as I am willing to insert them myself via direct MySQL commands or set up a script to do so. I'm wondering: (a) where to put 'em--e.g., if I have to make my own table entries, and (b) how to call them using the {LINK} method. The fact that I am a little clueless about how phpSlash works doesn't help. Does any of the above make sense? ./k [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: nathan r. h. <na...@ds...> - 2001-11-13 19:02:08
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Kyle Silfer wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Kyle Silfer wrote: > > > > > I've been poking around the phpslash code, trying to figure out if it is > > > possible for the "Related Links" fancybox to pull story-specific links > > > (as opposed to topic-specific or section-specific). > > > > IDGI? What exactly are story specfic links? Yes it's possible, but I > > don't know where the links are coming from... > > phpSlash supports topic-specific and section-specific "related links". > What I am seeking is the ability to pull story-specific "related links" > the same way. > > These links would not be existing related items as topic- and section- > specific "related links" are, but rather external URLs manually inserted > by the administrator or story author. Like I said, these could just be > HREFs stuck in the story text, but it would be far cooler if they were > in the database as individual items. > You know that phpslash should pull any href's in a story text and put them in the Related links box.. right? :) That said, yes its possible, you need to make a new LUT table with it's own key and use the story_id key from the story that the links are linked to. After that you can either build a block_render_story_link class and attach that bloack to all sections or hack away at the getRelated* and store funtions in Story and Story_base class. You'll also need to modify the templates for adding a story so that you can include related links for the story. You should take a look at the way the Story classes store stuff in the database as examples for how to use LUT tables, look at the *_LUT tables for examples on how to use the LUT's. Ajay might be able to more coherently explain this.. I've been dealing with win2k and MacOS9 updates all day so my mind is a bit muddeled :) -n -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- nathan hruby / digital statement na...@ds... http://www.dstatement.com/ Public GPG key can be found at: http://www.dstatement.com/nathan-gpg-key.txt ED54 9A5E 132D BD01 9103 EEF3 E1B9 4738 EC90 801B -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |
From: Kyle S. <ky...@rt...> - 2001-11-13 22:28:14
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, nathan r. hruby wrote: > You know that phpslash should pull any href's in a story text and put > them in the Related links box.. right? :) Damn. I did not know that! I hope this was not in the manual! > That said, yes its possible, you need to make a new LUT table with it's > own key and use the story_id key from the story that the links are linked > to. After that you can either build a block_render_story_link class and > attach that bloack to all sections or hack away at the getRelated* > and store funtions in Story and Story_base class. You'll also need to > modify the templates for adding a story so that you can include related > links for the story. OK, that gives me something to go on if I want to have related links that are not *already* in the main story. > You should take a look at the way the Story classes store stuff in the > database as examples for how to use LUT tables, look at the *_LUT tables > for examples on how to use the LUT's. Thanks. If I get stuck, I will holler. ./k |
From: nathan r. h. <na...@ds...> - 2001-11-15 14:11:59
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Kyle Silfer wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, nathan r. hruby wrote: > > > You know that phpslash should pull any href's in a story text and put > > them in the Related links box.. right? :) > > Damn. I did not know that! I hope this was not in the manual! > No.. but it probably should be.. Please submit this as a Bug to the SF Trackers. If it's not doing it for you, please let us know (and submit a bug) so it can be fixed in the next release. > > That said, yes its possible, you need to make a new LUT table with it's > > own key and use the story_id key from the story that the links are linked > > to. After that you can either build a block_render_story_link class and > > attach that bloack to all sections or hack away at the getRelated* > > and store funtions in Story and Story_base class. You'll also need to > > modify the templates for adding a story so that you can include related > > links for the story. > > OK, that gives me something to go on if I want to have related links that > are not *already* in the main story. > Correct. > > You should take a look at the way the Story classes store stuff in the > > database as examples for how to use LUT tables, look at the *_LUT tables > > for examples on how to use the LUT's. > > Thanks. If I get stuck, I will holler. > Please do.. -n -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- nathan hruby / digital statement na...@ds... http://www.dstatement.com/ Public GPG key can be found at: http://www.dstatement.com/nathan-gpg-key.txt ED54 9A5E 132D BD01 9103 EEF3 E1B9 4738 EC90 801B -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |
From: Kyle S. <ky...@rt...> - 2001-11-15 17:58:33
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> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, nathan r. hruby wrote: > > > > > You know that phpslash should pull any href's in a story text and put > > > them in the Related links box.. right? :) OK, this works for me. However ... This function pulls all relative HREFs (e.g., <A Href="#1">) and NAMEs (e.g., <A Name="1">) from the story as well! Since this is undesirable, I have another question: When these story links show up in the Related Links box, are they being pulled on the fly? Or were they been stored in the MySQL database when the story was submitted? ./k [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: Joe S. <jo...@be...> - 2001-11-15 18:16:41
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On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:08:16AM -0600, Kyle Silfer wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, nathan r. hruby wrote: > > > > > > > You know that phpslash should pull any href's in a story text and put > > > > them in the Related links box.. right? :) > > OK, this works for me. However ... > > This function pulls all relative HREFs (e.g., <A Href="#1">) and NAMEs > (e.g., <A Name="1">) from the story as well! > You can take advantage of a subtle bug/feature in the regex. Put links that you don't want in the "related links box" on a separate link. Add a carriage return if needed. This fools the regex and they won't show up. > Since this is undesirable, I have another question: > > When these story links show up in the Related Links box, are they > being pulled on the fly? Or were they been stored in the MySQL > database when the story was submitted? > Basically on the fly except by default they are cached for one hour in the db. They are serialized and put in one of the db fields. This is controlled in the Story.class here: $cache_ary[story][expire] = 0; // default to no story cache $cache_ary[related][expire] = 3600; // cache related links one hour // always set related_expire >=story_expire hth Joe > ./k > > > [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== > [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== > |
From: Kyle S. <ky...@rt...> - 2001-11-15 18:32:16
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> You can take advantage of a subtle bug/feature in the regex. Put links > that you don't want in the "related links box" on a separate link. Add a > carriage return if needed. > > This fools the regex and they won't show up. Wait, I don't quite get it. You mean "separate line" or "separate link"? Either way, I'm not sure what you mean. Please explain again? Thanks. ./k [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: Joe S. <jo...@be...> - 2001-11-15 20:06:13
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Yes it was a typo, I meant "line". I know that last post wasn't clear. The regex needs the href link to be on one line to hit. Here's an example: This displays in related links - <A HREF="article.php3?story_id=32&topic_id=39§ion_id=8#ss2.1">2.1 Requirements</A> this doesn't - <A HREF="article.php3?story_id=32&topic_id=39§ion_id=8#ss2.1">2.1 Requirements</A> I just looked, and the above only applies to the phpslash-ft in cvs, not 0.61 or 0.62. To really fix it look in Story.class, getRelated. The regex in both stable and cvs versions could use some TLC. Joe On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:42:02AM -0600, Kyle Silfer wrote: > > You can take advantage of a subtle bug/feature in the regex. Put links > > that you don't want in the "related links box" on a separate link. Add a > > carriage return if needed. > > > > This fools the regex and they won't show up. > > Wait, I don't quite get it. You mean "separate line" or "separate link"? > > Either way, I'm not sure what you mean. Please explain again? > > Thanks. > > ./k > > > [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== > [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: Kyle S. <ky...@rt...> - 2001-11-26 17:18:05
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> To really fix it look in Story.class, getRelated. The regex in both > stable and cvs versions could use some TLC. Joe, you gave me the above info when I wanted to eliminate named anchors (e.g., <a name="localanchor">) and the links to them (e.g., <a href="#localanchor">) from the "related links" box. A lot of my documents have footnotes, so this was a big problem for me. Following your advice, I have hacked the Story.class regex code to accomplish this. Basically, this revised version only pulls out links beginning with <a href (instead of <a whatever), and excludes anything with the character sequence of "# (e.g. a href="#localanchor"). One side effect of this change means that links in the format of: <a target="new" href="whatever"> ... won't be added to the related links, although they are legal HTML. To make my work easier, the first qualifer to the anchor must be href. Seemed like a good kludge to me. I've attached the code snippet. It replaces the two stanzas of code in Story.class, beginning at around line 961. Maybe this change would be beneficial enough to become part of the cvs tree? I'm ignorant about that whole process, but here's my code. ./k [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: nathan r. h. <na...@ds...> - 2001-11-26 17:30:42
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Kyle Silfer wrote: > I've attached the code snippet. It replaces the two stanzas of code in > Story.class, beginning at around line 961. Maybe this change would > be beneficial enough to become part of the cvs tree? I'm ignorant > about that whole process, but here's my code. > Sounds like a good addition. In regards to sending patches, if you're on a UNIX machine, look into the "diff" command, as this is the easiest way to send fixes around. If on Windows or MacOS<9, well.. sending the code I guess is good enough (I think there are diff like utils for windows and mac, I jsut don't know of any off the top of my head) Essentaily diff looks at two files and gives you the differences between them. If one file is say, Story.class from CVS, then when you diff it to your hacked story class, you'll get something that we can then apply to our copy of the CVS code very easily with a utility called "patch" (which essentailly merges in diffs to a known file) "man diff" on any unix-alike will give you a more than complete history and resoning behind the diff command, including advise on how to run diff to make a patch :) -n -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- nathan hruby / digital statement na...@ds... http://www.dstatement.com/ Public GPG key can be found at: http://www.dstatement.com/nathan-gpg-key.txt ED54 9A5E 132D BD01 9103 EEF3 E1B9 4738 EC90 801B -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |
From: Kyle S. <ky...@rt...> - 2001-11-26 18:20:33
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> Essentaily diff looks at two files and gives you the differences between > them. If one file is say, Story.class from CVS, then when you diff it to > your hacked story class, you'll get something that we can then apply to > our copy of the CVS code very easily with a utility called "patch" (which > essentailly merges in diffs to a known file) I can boot into Linux. I'll send the diff output shortly. ./k [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: Joe S. <jo...@be...> - 2001-11-26 18:23:16
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Thanks for submitting the code. Unfortunately there's a little more work to make this work in the upcoming release. The regex changed in the cvs version to using the much faster preg function: preg_match_all ("|<a href[^>]+>(.*)</[^>]+>|Ui", $fulltext, $links); I'm sure it can be modified to disregard "#" anchor links. Joe On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:28:17AM -0600, Kyle Silfer wrote: Content-Description: Mail message body > > To really fix it look in Story.class, getRelated. The regex in both > > stable and cvs versions could use some TLC. > > Joe, you gave me the above info when I wanted to eliminate named > anchors (e.g., <a name="localanchor">) and the links to them (e.g., > <a href="#localanchor">) from the "related links" box. A lot of my > documents have footnotes, so this was a big problem for me. > > Following your advice, I have hacked the Story.class regex code to > accomplish this. > > Basically, this revised version only pulls out links beginning with > <a href (instead of <a whatever), and excludes anything with the > character sequence of "# (e.g. a href="#localanchor"). > > One side effect of this change means that links in the format of: > > <a target="new" href="whatever"> > > ... won't be added to the related links, although they are legal HTML. > To make my work easier, the first qualifer to the anchor must be > href. Seemed like a good kludge to me. > > I've attached the code snippet. It replaces the two stanzas of code in > Story.class, beginning at around line 961. Maybe this change would > be beneficial enough to become part of the cvs tree? I'm ignorant > about that whole process, but here's my code. > > ./k > > > [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== > [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: Ajay S. <ss...@od...> - 2001-11-26 22:17:00
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Isn't there a better option to get this to work without having to force the "href" attribute to be first? I know for perl you have HTMLTree and some other objects which can assist in parsing HTML. There should be a way to say, "okay, we found a anchor tag and here's a hash of all the attributes and their values". later, ajay On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Joe Stewart wrote: > Thanks for submitting the code. Unfortunately there's a little more work > to make this work in the upcoming release. The regex changed in the cvs > version to using the much faster preg function: > > preg_match_all ("|<a href[^>]+>(.*)</[^>]+>|Ui", $fulltext, $links); > > I'm sure it can be modified to disregard "#" anchor links. > > Joe > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:28:17AM -0600, Kyle Silfer wrote: > Content-Description: Mail message body > > > To really fix it look in Story.class, getRelated. The regex in both > > > stable and cvs versions could use some TLC. > > > > Joe, you gave me the above info when I wanted to eliminate named > > anchors (e.g., <a name="localanchor">) and the links to them (e.g., > > <a href="#localanchor">) from the "related links" box. A lot of my > > documents have footnotes, so this was a big problem for me. > > > > Following your advice, I have hacked the Story.class regex code to > > accomplish this. > > > > Basically, this revised version only pulls out links beginning with > > <a href (instead of <a whatever), and excludes anything with the > > character sequence of "# (e.g. a href="#localanchor"). > > > > One side effect of this change means that links in the format of: > > > > <a target="new" href="whatever"> > > > > ... won't be added to the related links, although they are legal HTML. > > To make my work easier, the first qualifer to the anchor must be > > href. Seemed like a good kludge to me. > > > > I've attached the code snippet. It replaces the two stanzas of code in > > Story.class, beginning at around line 961. Maybe this change would > > be beneficial enough to become part of the cvs tree? I'm ignorant > > about that whole process, but here's my code. > > > > ./k > > > > > > [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== > > [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== > > > _______________________________________________ > phpslash-users mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpslash-users > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma ss...@od... -------------------------------------------------------------------- |
From: Lars <la...@kv...> - 2001-11-29 11:14:19
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Is there any plans to make "language modules" for later versions of phpSlash ? I've mentioned it earlier but have been off the list for several months now due to losing an e-mail acct and moving to a different continent... What I was thinking about was having one file containing the text and a variable containing this text. Then you could just refer to this text in the sources, change it one place and 'voila' - it would be changed all places. Makes sense, don't you think ? If interested, I'd be glad to make the first - a Norwegian one or a English one... Lars |
From: Joe S. <jo...@be...> - 2001-11-29 15:52:36
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Followup. Lars has submitted a Norwegian translation. Currently we have English, French, German, and Norwegian for the upcoming release. Thanks go to Lars, Bart and tobozo. Anybody else that would like to help with a translation please step up. It is a single file that has the English equivalent. Context may be an issue for single words but, oh well. Here is an excerpt from an email explaining the use of the language files: There is a variable in config.php3 now for the default language. $_PSL[language] = "en"; // default language ( ISO format) Also, the program attempts to set the language according to the user's language preference set in their browser. So I may have English as the default language, but you may have Norwegian as your language preference in IE or Mozilla and the Norwegian text would be used. In addition to the text files language specific template sets are supported as well in a similar manner. thanks, Joe On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 09:14:13PM +1000, Lars wrote: > Is there any plans to make "language modules" for later versions of > phpSlash ? I've mentioned it earlier but have been off the list for several > months now due to losing an e-mail acct and moving to a different continent... > > What I was thinking about was having one file containing the text and a > variable containing this text. Then you could just refer to this text in > the sources, change it one place and 'voila' - it would be changed all > places. Makes sense, don't you think ? > > If interested, I'd be glad to make the first - a Norwegian one or a English > one... > > Lars > > |
From: Matt \TrollBoy\ W. <tro...@sh...> - 2001-11-29 17:43:05
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Taking from a flame war I'm currently having with a webposition gold sales droid, I'm curiosu about his suggestion of Doorway pages.. His bloated overpriced product woudl create a static html page chocked full of key words and links to my dynamic pages that the woosier search engines ignore due to the presence of &'s and ?'s in a url. It got me to thinking, Ajay had a page that did something similar, is there any way to incorporate this into backend.php somehow and have robots.txt point to it? Just a thought, and a drug addled one at that, but back to my flame war, Matt "TrollBoy" Wiseman Webmaster: Shoggoth.net Site Designer: phpslash.org The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown. -H.P. Lovecraft --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not resell my e-mail address to anyone or send me unsolicited e-mail --------------------------------------------------------- |
From: Matt \TrollBoy\ W. <tro...@sh...> - 2001-11-29 17:56:19
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FWIW, the write up the droid refered me to http://www.webposition.com/mp-1298.htm#ONE Matt "TrollBoy" Wiseman Webmaster: Shoggoth.net Site Designer: phpslash.org The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown. -H.P. Lovecraft --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not resell my e-mail address to anyone or send me unsolicited e-mail --------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt "TrollBoy" Wiseman" <tro...@sh...> To: <php...@li...> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: [phpslash-users] The Doors > Taking from a flame war I'm currently having with a webposition gold sales > droid, I'm curiosu about his suggestion of Doorway pages.. His bloated > overpriced product woudl create a static html page chocked full of key words > and links to my dynamic pages that the woosier search engines ignore due to > the presence of &'s and ?'s in a url. > > It got me to thinking, Ajay had a page that did something similar, is there > any way to incorporate this into backend.php somehow and have robots.txt > point to it? > > Just a thought, and a drug addled one at that, but back to my flame war, > Matt "TrollBoy" Wiseman > Webmaster: Shoggoth.net > Site Designer: phpslash.org > The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, > and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown. > -H.P. Lovecraft > --------------------------------------------------------- > Please do not resell my e-mail address > to anyone or send me unsolicited e-mail > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > phpslash-users mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpslash-users > |
From: Ajay S. <ss...@od...> - 2001-11-29 19:48:51
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That stuff used to work, it's pretty useless now anyway because search engines get smarter. The best thing to do is get a bunch of people to link to you so google will rank you higher. Oh yeah, and get listed in the dmoz because the open directory is used *everywhere*. I actually used Webposition for a while and it worked okay. I got listed in a few search engines as the top "britpop" site on the internet which was cool, but it didn't really boost my traffic. Most of the members that I sign up now are pure word of mouth, you just can't beat that. later, ajay On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Matt "TrollBoy" Wiseman wrote: > Taking from a flame war I'm currently having with a webposition gold sales > droid, I'm curiosu about his suggestion of Doorway pages.. His bloated > overpriced product woudl create a static html page chocked full of key words > and links to my dynamic pages that the woosier search engines ignore due to > the presence of &'s and ?'s in a url. > > It got me to thinking, Ajay had a page that did something similar, is there > any way to incorporate this into backend.php somehow and have robots.txt > point to it? > > Just a thought, and a drug addled one at that, but back to my flame war, > Matt "TrollBoy" Wiseman > Webmaster: Shoggoth.net > Site Designer: phpslash.org > The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, > and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown. > -H.P. Lovecraft > --------------------------------------------------------- > Please do not resell my e-mail address > to anyone or send me unsolicited e-mail > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > phpslash-users mailing list > php...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/phpslash-users > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma ss...@od... -------------------------------------------------------------------- |
From: Matt \TrollBoy\ W. <tro...@sh...> - 2001-11-29 20:17:04
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> That stuff used to work, it's pretty useless now anyway because search > engines get smarter. The best thing to do is get a bunch of people to > link to you so google will rank you higher. Oh yeah, and get listed in > the dmoz because the open directory is used *everywhere*. Agreed, and thanks for the tips > I actually used Webposition for a while and it worked okay. I got > listed in a few search engines as the top "britpop" site on the internet > which was cool, but it didn't really boost my traffic. Most of the > members that I sign up now are pure word of mouth, you just can't beat > that. Thus my biggest arguement with the WebPositionm I'm a very genre specific site.. I mean 9 out of 10 households have never heard of the Cthulhu Mythos, much less do htey have hte trekkie like fanaticism that my site panders to... Matt "TrollBoy" Wiseman Webmaster: Shoggoth.net Site Designer: phpslash.org The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown. -H.P. Lovecraft --------------------------------------------------------- Please do not resell my e-mail address to anyone or send me unsolicited e-mail --------------------------------------------------------- |
From: Joe S. <jo...@be...> - 2001-11-29 19:59:06
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I'll chime in for conversation sake. I don't particularly think they are too useful anymore. 1. As SE develop, dynamic pages are less of a problem. Google indexes them fine. Ink can. AltaVista can. If the SE is going to survive and be relevent, they'll probably give in. 2. Either the search result is a "doorway" page without much content, or you "cloak" the doorway page which is a no-no to the the SE's. 3. Another solution is to use apache's mod_rewrite to make some pages look static. Joe On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 12:50:25PM -0500, Matt TrollBoy Wiseman wrote: > Taking from a flame war I'm currently having with a webposition gold sales > droid, I'm curiosu about his suggestion of Doorway pages.. His bloated > overpriced product woudl create a static html page chocked full of key words > and links to my dynamic pages that the woosier search engines ignore due to > the presence of &'s and ?'s in a url. > > It got me to thinking, Ajay had a page that did something similar, is there > any way to incorporate this into backend.php somehow and have robots.txt > point to it? > > Just a thought, and a drug addled one at that, but back to my flame war, > Matt "TrollBoy" Wiseman > Webmaster: Shoggoth.net > Site Designer: phpslash.org > The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, > and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown. > -H.P. Lovecraft > --------------------------------------------------------- > Please do not resell my e-mail address > to anyone or send me unsolicited e-mail > --------------------------------------------------------- > > |
From: Kyle S. <ky...@rt...> - 2001-11-15 18:03:39
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> When these story links show up in the Related Links box, are they > being pulled on the fly? Or were they been stored in the MySQL > database when the story was submitted? "were they been" ugh! ;-) [Reign of Toads 87196-0498 USA ] ==oo== [http://www.rtoads.com/hypertoad/ ] ==oo== |
From: nathan r. h. <na...@ds...> - 2001-11-15 18:10:17
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Kyle Silfer wrote: > > When these story links show up in the Related Links box, are they > > being pulled on the fly? Or were they been stored in the MySQL > > database when the story was submitted? > On the fly every time. It's something that needs to be worked on. > "were they been" ugh! ;-) > Don't worry, you'll get no abuse from me about typos, spelling or anything gramtic :) -n -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- nathan hruby / digital statement na...@ds... http://www.dstatement.com/ Public GPG key can be found at: http://www.dstatement.com/nathan-gpg-key.txt ED54 9A5E 132D BD01 9103 EEF3 E1B9 4738 EC90 801B -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |