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#1199 Import media by URL

phpGedView
closed-rejected
nobody
5
2011-01-18
2010-03-10
janpolsen
No

It is currently possible to add an URL while adding a media object to an individual.

The problem (as I see it) is that that URL will become the address of the media object and not a downloaded version.

I would very much like, that you can:
* indicate an URL to a picture
* download that picture to the server
* add the local server address instead of the URL
* add the original URL to some information field, so the source URL is kept intact

Discussion

  • ggpauly
    ggpauly
    2010-03-23

    I agree that URL lnked media items are undesirable. URLs change, servers crash. Linking to another site for a media object could be considered stealing bandwidth. Why would you do this? What beneficial use-cases are enabled by linked media items? This may be a misfeature.

    The procedure you suggest is currently possible with the additional steps of downloading the file to your computer, followed by uploading to the PGV server and recording the URL and download date in your sources.

    On my sites, I prefer to keep a server file, a local (eg home computer) copy, and backups (including off-site backups) of media. Again, URLs change, servers crash. The current procedure encourages a local copy.

    I suggest changing this feature request to eliminating the URL (http://...) filename option, or at least removing the suggestion to do this in the add media window.

     
  • Stephen Arnold
    Stephen Arnold
    2010-03-31

    Jan
    I would not wish to have PGV changed to become the instrument by which theft of intellectual property is accomplished or encouraged. If you wish to take possible copyright materials from other sites, download them to your personal computer and then upload them to your PGV media, that's your prerogative. JOHO
    -Stephen

     
  • janpolsen
    janpolsen
    2010-03-31

    I'm not sure if you actually read my entire feature request or maybe just part of it before you jumped to conclusions.

    *IF* you really want to talk about "theft of intellectual property", then I actually believe you find more "theft" on PGV sites, because people have to download media, re-upload to their own site and thereby forget to add the source.

    I am suggesting that the source (original URL) is automatically added to the piece of media you "steal". Then there is no way you with good faith can forget to add the source to your own site.

    I would actually rather have someone "importing" media from my site (as my feature request suggests) which then automatically adds adds a link back to my site, than people just download my media and forgets to add the source.

    At the end of the day, isn't most of all information on genealogy sites "stolen" (in good faith) from another sites?

     
  • Stephen Arnold
    Stephen Arnold
    2010-04-01

    Jan
    Certainly I read your post, and certainly I understood your suggestion on the SOUR, but regardless, you have proposed PGV be the potential theft vehicle, not the individual, as it is the program that does the DL'g. Again, I would not wish a program to support this possible subterfuge. Better left to the thieves.

    And if you use PGV media firewall, unregistered thieves would have plenty of SOUR information within their photos since they would be watermarked.
    -Stephen

     
  • janpolsen
    janpolsen
    2010-04-01

    We are not necessarily talking about images from PGV sites, but also from other sites. For instance let's take a look at the picture on the following URL http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Cnut.jpg.

    The picture is public domain and everyone can use it even without indicating any source. Still I would like to "honor" where I got the picture from at the same time as I want to make the whole process as "easy as possible".

     
  • Stephen Arnold
    Stephen Arnold
    2010-04-02

    Jan
    Maybe the language difference, but I said nothing about "talking about images from PGV sites", but rather using PGV as the mechanism to transfer any media (or other file) from another site, period. If someone wants to make the decision about what is and isn't in the public domain, then that's their prerogative, To automate PGV to DL from remote site URL's instead of a local drive, just doesn't seem proper functionality to me. Let's see what others think and if anyone picks up your idea for this RFE.
    -Stephen

     
  • Gerry Kroll
    Gerry Kroll
    2011-01-18

    I agree with Stephen.

    Although, on the surface, this idea appears to have some merit, there is great danger to mis-use it by downloading copyrighted material. Generally, it's not sufficient to acknowledge the source of your copy when such theft of copyrighted material is made.

    There is nothing to stop unscrupulous users from mis-using this feature, even if you, personally, agree to abide by fair use legislation. Not everyone is as careful about copying copyrighted material as you, Stephen, and I.

    If you wish to do this, you can always download your images outside PGV, store them on your local PC, and then upload them into PGV's media file store.

     
  • Gerry Kroll
    Gerry Kroll
    2011-01-18

    • status: open --> closed-rejected