Well consider the source of the opinions that I have profered here with poor spelling and all. It took me 20 yrs of windows to figure out that mac os9.2, Mac OSX and some Linux (Deb 1st) were preferable alternatives for me.

I just get annoyed sometimes with the length of time it takes to jump thru all the hoops each time I set up a the Deb package. However, that being said, Deb has been the 1st linux for me that ever lived up to its hype and performed according to its docs - even old potato and woody ( the broken Debs). I have tried a gillian distros over the last 5 yrs.

And, G-d bless all of em, but for this limited capacity soul, I prefer deb its derivatives and suse.

" like little baby ducks, old pickup trucks, and grass when its green, and rain,
and I love u 2" or  " ol dogs and little kids and watermellon wine."

No interest in flaming here. Only in trying to get the nubus pb1400c, operational on a more regular basis.

Vito

----- Original Message ----
From: Vito <v_ito1@yahoo.com>
To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 2:06:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: Kernel 2.4.30 + MediaBay hotplug patches

Suse, knoppix and ubuntu do a much better job of installing base software progs that one will need for  a windows replacement. And no Deb does not auto mount the hfs or ntfs system, and one needs to install x-server-core and a number of other things that are already done for you in those other distros.

Call me lazy, but even as much as I like to tinker  with the pc or laptop, my time has become more and more limited, so something that just installs and works is wunderbar or wunderlich.

Try those out some time and see what the average joe is talking about. I still believe that Deb is the best, but for those of us who have tired ol brains unwilling to absorb all of the linux minutia - autopilot distros are great to.

Vito

----- Original Message ----
From: icedtrip <lists@icedtrip.net>
To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:33:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: Kernel 2.4.30 + MediaBay hotplug patches

Vito said:
"For those of us less savy in the linux world - those distributions are appealing, as they leave some things less to chance (the chance of someone like me breaking the system) while providing a great selection of programs, with autodetect and automount already in place."

That is awesome, but unfortunatly would already be beyond what Vito originally desired I believe.  Per Vito comment above, the benefit of doing this would be for the Ubuntu Installer.  Let it do everything for you.  Since Debian is already installed and this is a distro upgrade to the Ubuntu repositories, wouldn't we already be past all configuration abilities provided by the installer and base config applications?  I'm not sure an apt-get dist-upgrade would walk you through this stuff and reconfigure everything as if it were a fresh install, but I could be wrong.

However, back to Vito's point, Vito, are you not getting the Debian installer to autodetect hardware and set up automounts in fstab?  Maybe I am confused on what you are expecting out of Ubuntu that Debian didn't do for you?

As for Ubuntu, I may try this sometime this week.  Very nice indeed.

icedtrip

On 2/28/06, Peter <petrvz@gmx.net > wrote:
I was able to install Ubuntu a while back, by first doing a minimal
debian install, and then changing the repositories
in /etc/apt/sources.list from Debian to Ubuntu repositories. After an
apt-get dist-upgrade my pb1400cs had Ubuntu Breezy installed.

Peter
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Hi Vito,
>
> you can only install distributions that support the 2.4 kernel.
> So knoppix will not work.
> As far as I know Suse does no longer support the PowerPC and I don't
> know where to get CD images from.
> On the mailing list was a report of a successful install of Ubuntu
> 4.10 (Warty Warthog).
>
> Tobias
>
>
>
> Am 28.02.2006 um 18:11 schrieb Vito:
>
>         Has anyone out there gotten knoppix, Suse or Ubuntu working on
>         the nubus machines with the current miboot image that tobias,
>         Daniel, Florian and others have worked on? For those of us
>         less savy in the linux world - those distributions are
>         appealing, as they leave some things less to chance (the
>         chance of someone like me breaking the system) while providing
>         a great selection of programs, with autodetect and automount
>         already in place.
>
>         Vito
>
>         ----- Original Message ----
>         From: Vito < v_ito1@yahoo.com>
>         To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>         Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:56:43 AM
>         Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: Kernel 2.4.30 + MediaBay
>         hotplug patches
>
>         thx again
>
>         ----- Original Message ----
>         From: Florian Boelstler < euphoria@arcor.de>
>         To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>         Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:51:56 AM
>         Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: Kernel 2.4.30 + MediaBay
>         hotplug patches
>
>
>
>         Guy Paddock wrote:
>                 I had the problem of it either hanging or powering-off
>                 during startup
>                 recovery too. I have found that the only work-around
>                 is to boot from the
>                 installer and run mount.
>
>         I usually boot the Debian installer, choose to load the
>         installer
>         components from the CD (this implies that ext2fs-utils are
>         loaded) and
>         then switch to a shell.
>
>         Then I manually invoke the repair process:
>         fsck.ext3 /dev/discs/...
>                      ^^
>                            To be replaced by your root partition.
>
>         Good luck,
>
>           Florian
>
>
>
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