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[Nicole-users] Developers Mailing list + Sourceforge Forum

[<nic...@li...>]

Hi there,

There is a lot more action happening on the sourceforge.net forums than these
mailing lists. It is probably better to use these forums instead of these
mailing lists also.

For further information about NICOLE, check out NICOLE's forums at -=>
http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=2968

Cheers,
Phil H.




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[Nicole-users] Release 0.1.6

[<nic...@li...>]

Phil G Howlett@QDOT
07/31/2000 12:27 PM

Hi,

I've just released the development version of NICOLE 0.1.6

Here are the release notes and changelog since 0.1.5

Release Notes:

This release contains the importdb and exportdb utilities that allow you to
easily exchange and merge databases from different sites. You just need to email
 the DB dump file to someone else to swap and merge knowledge bases.

This is a test release to find and remove bugs. Once I have written up some
decent documentation (NICOLE Manual) then I will prepare for NICOLE 0.2.0

Release 0.1.6 is a development release only (unstable).

Use at your own risk


Changelog:

* Modified Gershon's patch so that the importdb utility also updates the
dictioanry as well as the vocabulary. Also prettied up the output generated by
the exportdb/importdb utilities.
* Applied the patch to import and export a database supplied by Gershon Bialer.
You can now easily export your databaase and import it into another database.
Thanks Gershon!!
* Fixed up the configure script to stop to let you know that you have the MySQL
files missing. - Thanks Zach.
*Applied a patch supplied by Eurik that allows the import of a text file that
has lower case. It converts it to upper case through the import utility.
* Fixed a bug with the /INFO command that segment faulted if a word existed in
the dictionary, but not in the vocabulary.

--

Lets start building up a common knowledge base so that we can distribute it with
the upcoming version 0.2.0 !!!!

Cheers,
Phil Howlett.
Project NICOLE Administrator.




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[Nicole-users] learn utility

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Phil G Howlett@QDOT
07/21/2000 05:02 PM

Heya,

Here is a simple text file I have generated that you can use with the 'learn'
utility to create a knowledge base.

It would be insteresting if we could share and swap different files around to
build up a common knowledge base.

Cheers,
Phil.

(See attached file: nicole.txt)


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[Nicole-users] Issues with 0.1.5

[<nic...@li...>]

Hi,

I've come across an issue with 0.1.5 with the /INFO command.

Basically, if you import a word into the dictionary, and it doesn't have an
entry in the vocabulary, it seg-faults. :(

So, provided that you don't use the /INFO command, you should be ok. I'll fix
this for the next release.

Cheers,
Phil.
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Re: [Nicole-users] MASTER database

[<nic...@li...>]

Hello,

I can try to run database in one of my servers. If my link will be 
enough...  

Rolandas

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 nic...@li... wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> Some of you have asked already about a MASTER database that NICOLE can access.
> I've asked the good people of sourceforge if they would be willing to host such
> a database. Unfortunately the answer from them is no. They only allow access to
> their MySQL database internally to sourceforge's network (using php pages from
> a www page).
> 
> So does anyone else suggest a site where they would be willing to host NICOLE's
> master database? I'd expect this site would get quite a few hits. :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Phil.
> 
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[Nicole-users] Release 0.1.5

[<nic...@li...>]

Hi there again,

I've just released a development version of NICOLE. While this is still a
development version, it is quite stable and could almost pass off as a stable
one.

The main reason I have released this version is to accelerate the growth of the
knowledge base. For a while now, NICOLE has been logging its conversations into
a text file at /tmp/history.txt

This file records the conversation threads in NICOLE. You can then email this
file to other NICOLE users, who can then 'learn' this file into their own
database.

I intent to create a master copy of a 'learn' text file so that users can
import a common database, if they wish to.

So the next time you install and setup NICOLE. Remove any existing
/tmp/history.txt files, and start communicating with NICOLE. Send the new
/tmp/history.txt file either to myself (pgh...@oz...) or other
users of NICOLE. 

Hopefully we can get a master knowledge base happening.

Cheers,
Phil.
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[Nicole-users] MASTER database

[<nic...@li...>]

Greetings,

Some of you have asked already about a MASTER database that NICOLE can access.
I've asked the good people of sourceforge if they would be willing to host such
a database. Unfortunately the answer from them is no. They only allow access to
their MySQL database internally to sourceforge's network (using php pages from
a www page).

So does anyone else suggest a site where they would be willing to host NICOLE's
master database? I'd expect this site would get quite a few hits. :)

Cheers,
Phil.

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[Nicole-users] Seeking help to expand the NICOLE project

[<nic...@li...>]

Phil G Howlett@QDOT
07/11/2000 04:50 PM

This message was posted up on the "Project Help Wanted" page on sourceforge.net

-=-=-=-
I'm seeking a few people work on the NICOLE engine.

NICOLE has started to grow into a mature AI library. What I would like to do is
extend this library, as well as release other utilities and
applications that use the NICOLE engine. Some examples are:

o IRC Bot
o Speech Input/Output
o Multiple conversations (get multiple copies of NICOLE talking to one another)

If you want some information about NICOLE then go to the www site at
http://nicole.sourceforge.net

I would like developers who are porficient in C/C++ to work on the NICOLE API
engine, as well as developers (doesn't have to be C/C++) to build
support applications.

Don't know how to code? That doesn't matter. You can help out NICOLE by building
 up the knowledge base, populating the database (and having
fun talking to NICOLE at the same time).

Please email me if you are interested in developing in this exciting project. :)

-=-=-=-

Cheers,
Phil.




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[Nicole-users] Re: Master Database

[<nic...@li...>]

Hiya Gershon,

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> Can sourceforge.net host databases? Could you post a large file to input into
> MySql databases? I know you someone was talking of making a large file of
> sentences and what every happened to that? Just wondering.

I haven't looked at sourceforge.net hosting the mysql database. I'll make a few
enquiries.

Yes, I'm still in the process of creating a large text file to import into
NICOLE. It is slow going though (I'm in the middle of Uni exams and such, hence
the slowdown of development in NICOLE this past week).

However if you have something you'd like to contribute to the txt file then
I'll gladly add it to the growing file.

Cheers,
Phil.
  
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pgh...@oz...

Re: [Nicole-users] mysql/mysql.h

[<nic...@li...>]

Heya,

On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, you wrote:
> When I try to install NICOLE, I get an error on make that the mysql/mysql.h 
> is not found.  I have installed mysql and copied the headers into a dir off 
> of nicole's extracted src dir called mysql
> 
> The file exists....what I am doing wrong guys?

The mysql.h include files are normally stored in /usr/include/mysql

Once you have placed them there they should compile.

In NICOLE Version 0.1.4 (development release) and above I've totally changed
the configure scripts around so that they conform to the GNU standard (well
close to it anyway). I'm still working on the configure tests though..

Hopefully this will ease installation woes.

Cheers,
Phil H.

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[Nicole-users] mysql/mysql.h

[<nic...@li...>]

When I try to install NICOLE, I get an error on make that the mysql/mysql.h 
is not found.  I have installed mysql and copied the headers into a dir off 
of nicole's extracted src dir called mysql

The file exists....what I am doing wrong guys?
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[Nicole-users] Nasty bug in 0.1.2

[<nic...@li...>]

Hi,

Yes, I know there is a nasty bug in release 0.1.2 (don't you just hate that).

I'll be releasing a minor patch (0.1.3) in the next hour or so.

Cheers,
Phil.
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pgh...@oz...

[Nicole-users] New Survey

[<nic...@li...>]

Phil G Howlett@QDOT
07/05/2000 05:49 PM

Hiya,

I've created a survey on the sourceforge project page. I'll be updating the WWW
page when I get home tonight.

For now, you can access the survey from here:

http://sourceforge.net/survey/survey.php?group_id=2968&survey_id=10660

Cheers,
Phil H.




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[Nicole-users] Relase 0.1.2

[<nic...@li...>]

Hi there,

I've just released 0.1.2 of NICOLE.

While this isn't a major release, mainly bug fixes and a few extra features.

You will have to reset your database if you are upgrading (use the /ERASE ME
command inside nicole once you have compiled)

The main reason for this release is that I've written a 'learn' utility. This
utility makes it easier to import a conversation into nicole (it works kinda
like the old 'import' utility).

I haven't had the time yet to write up any decent documentation for it
(volunteers anyone?) but it basically works like this.

You create a text file (there is a sample.txt file provided with this new
release). Each line of the text file is a single sentence, each line follows
the previous sentence. It is kinda like having a conversation with yourself. If
you wish to start a new conversation then create a line with three (3) dashes
(---). You can have a look at the sample.txt file, or you can always email me.

What I would like to see is people creating their own 'conversation' text files
that we can swap around and have our own copies of NICOLE 'learn' from others.

Eventually, I would like to compile a large text file to import into NICOLE so
that there is a standard base, if people wish it.

Anyway, have fun playing with 0.1.2

Cheers,
Phil H.
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pgh...@oz...

[Nicole-users] Release 0.1.0

[<nic...@li...>]

Yes, it has happened again!
I've released 0.1.0 of NICOLE and I must say I'm rather proud of myself with
this version.

0.1.0 contains bug fixes that popped up in 0.0.6 as well as some minor
enhancements.

If you upgrade to 0.1.0 then you will need to reset your knowledge base (use
the /ERASE ME command within nicole)

Have fun, and again, if there are any problems/suggestions then please don't
hesitate to get in touch with me.

Cheers,
Phil.

-- 
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[Nicole-users] IRC CHAT

[<nic...@li...>]

Heya,

I'm on IRC on EFNet in #nicole if anyone wants to talk about NICOLE.

Phil.

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pgh...@oz...

Re: [Nicole-users] IRC

[<nic...@li...>]

Heya Jim,

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> yep, ok there is an op in there now, and I am putting up a bot now.
> If anyone else has a shell for a bot let me know.

I'll try and be on #nicole from most nights around 9pm Brisbane time(GMT+10). 

Stop by and chat with me. I'll promise I can give better replies than NICOLE
can at the moment. :)

Cheers,
Phil.
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Re: [Nicole-users] ./import bombs.

[<nic...@li...>]

Phil G Howlett@QDOT
06/23/2000 09:56 AM

Heya,

>    Pardon me, but what exactly does increasing the vocabulary do for
>NICOLE? It doesn't know how to actually use the words at that point.

You are correct!

When I first started to code NICOLE, the dictionary object was created first.
For testing purposes, I created the import utility to import words into the
dictionary.

Sadly at the time of release 0.0.6, I hadn't even started writting an import
program to import senteces into NICOLE. I intend to change this with 0.0.7

* Importing a wordlist is no big drama (except for the punctuation error in the
words.txt file on the www site).
* Importing a sentence list will involve a little bit more of an effort.

Each sentence will have to be in it's own line.
Each sentence should be the 'response' for the sentence above it

Once these two import utilities are finished, it would mean that everyone can
have a 'base' of knowledge for NICOLE and can build up from there (kind of like
a knowledge foundation).

What does everyone think?

Cheers,
Phil.








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Re: [Nicole-users] IRC

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Phil G Howlett@QDOT
06/23/2000 09:57 AM

Thanks Jim!

don't forget to make me an op!! :)

Cheers,
Phil.





nic...@li... on 23/06/2000 04:44:35

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cc:    (bcc: Phil G Howlett/CorpServ/qdot/au)
Subject:  Re: [Nicole-users] IRC




yep, ok there is an op in there now, and I am putting up a bot now.
If anyone else has a shell for a bot let me know.

-jim



nic...@li... wrote:

> Heya,
>
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > I opened and IRC chat channel on Efnet IRC servers,  channel #nicole
>
> Okay, call me dumb.. but if I log onto an Efnet IRC server in Australia, can I
> communicate with people who have also connected to an Efnet IRC server
> elsewhere in the world?
>
> IRC Newbie Phil.
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Re: [Nicole-users] IRC

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Phil G Howlett@QDOT
06/23/2000 09:46 AM

Heya,

>    Most EFnet servers require you to have an addressable ident(d) server
>on your box. There are a few that don't, so just try around.

That would explain it then. I'll have to enable the ident port on my firewall
when I get home. :)

Then I'll give it another go. :)

Cheers,
Phil.






nic...@li... on 22/06/2000 23:29:49

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To:   nic...@li...
cc:    (bcc: Phil G Howlett/CorpServ/qdot/au)
Subject:  Re: [Nicole-users] IRC




nic...@li... wrote:
> > I opened and IRC chat channel on Efnet IRC servers,  channel #nicole
>
> Hmm... I seem to be banned from Efnet.. :(

     Most EFnet servers require you to have an addressable ident(d) server
on your box. There are a few that don't, so just try around.

Eric

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Re: [Nicole-users] IRC

[<nic...@li...>]

nic...@li... wrote:
> 
> yep, ok there is an op in there now, and I am putting up a bot now.
> If anyone else has a shell for a bot let me know.

	I can supply a shell/processor time/bandwidth for the #nicole bot.
Contact me off-list.

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Re: [Nicole-users] IRC

[<nic...@li...>]

yep, ok there is an op in there now, and I am putting up a bot now.
If anyone else has a shell for a bot let me know.

-jim



nic...@li... wrote:

> Heya,
>
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> > I opened and IRC chat channel on Efnet IRC servers,  channel #nicole
>
> Okay, call me dumb.. but if I log onto an Efnet IRC server in Australia, can I
> communicate with people who have also connected to an Efnet IRC server
> elsewhere in the world?
>
> IRC Newbie Phil.
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> pgh...@oz...
>
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Re: [Nicole-users] irc

[<nic...@li...>]

I wrote a perl app that interfaces console apps with IRC
:-)
I think I deleted it though, ahh!

nic...@li... wrote:

> Heya,
>
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, you wrote:
>
> >I connected to the #nicole channel of Efnet and there was no op or irc bot.
> >It didn't seem like it was really set up. Another thing is that if we set
> >nicole up a sort of irc bot we could have communication of the irc with it and
> >maybe it could monitor ongoing conversations on the irc for additional input.
> >If it was left to hear irc jargon maybe it would learn how to communicate
> >effectively in that style.You could even set it to output to various irc
> >channels. What do you think is this a bad idea?
>
> I'm sure that someone with experience in writting a bot wouldn't have any
> troubles with interfacing IRC with NICOLE. That would make an interseting
> project.
>
> Any takers?
>
> Cheers,
> Phil.
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Re: [Nicole-users] ./import bombs.

[<nic...@li...>]

nic...@li... wrote:
> Yes, I it is known that import is broken in release 0.0.6
> 
> I'm working on NICOLE tonight, and will hopefully fix this nasty error ready
> when 0.0.7 comes out.

	Pardon me, but what exactly does increasing the vocabulary do for
NICOLE? It doesn't know how to actually use the words at that point.

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Re: [Nicole-users] Re: NICOLE (me/you problems)

[<nic...@li...>]

nic...@li... wrote:
> As I said above, NICOLE isn't language specific. If you talk to it in Russian,
> then it will talk in Russian back at you!

	I'm planning on having some fun with this myself this weekend. My GF
natively speaks Japanese, so I'm going to sit her down and have her
bilingually educate my NICOLE. 

	There is one thing I would like to see. If NICOLE is going to be the
'name' of the program, I would like to see it recognize it's name. No
matter what language one speaks, NICOLE should be a automatically
recognized word, IMHO. Me/you changes from language to language, but
most everyone can address it by it's name.

Just a few thoughts.

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