From: Tom Metro <tmetro+<mvpmc-devel@gm...> - 2013-06-09 07:47:00
[Moving a conversation here from the mvpmc users list.]
Jon Gettler wrote:
> Tom Metro wrote:
> How about an antique 0.21.0+fixes?
> Any idea what is broken?
No, not specifically. I wrote up my observations in this XBMC forum posting:
Where I wrote:
I'm trying to use it with an ancient MythTV back-end, 0.21.0+fixes,
and while all the database I/O works just fine (recording, schedules,
and listings show fine), attempting to play a video results in
"waiting..." appearing for about a minute and then nothing...
and I quoted some bits from the XBMC log including "Open - error probing
input format, pvr://recordings/[...]20130512_140000.pvr";.
I didn't investigate further because I didn't know if it would be
pointless if it was definitely known that 0.21 was not supported.
I hoped to receive confirmation from the PVR add-on developers, but no
response from them. I can't really say they seem all that active on the
forum. (I miss the mvpmc developer community, which was small, but
> If not, it is certainly a lot easier to test with some of the test
> programs in cmyth (https://github.com/cmyth/cmyth).
That's a thought...
Maybe I can build a version of the PVR add-on that uses the mvpmc
version of the library? (Which could be messy, as I think they've
changed the API.) Or at least revert the chunk of code responsible for
I have disappointment and mixed feelings about the XBMC MythTV PVR
add-on. The first point of confusion is that they "hid" this
functionality under the banner of "Live TV" and don't explain in their
documentation that you have to enable live TV to get PVR access. Live
TV? I never use Live TV. Why would I enable that? (Not until I dug up a
YouTube video demoing the PVR stuff did I learn otherwise.)
The other is that the options for showing the show list is once again on
par with what you might see from a 2005-era UPnP client. You drill down
into a recording group, then you have to either pick categories or
series titles. Less usability than the 2006-era mvpmc design. What I
want is recording group *filters*, like mvpmc, and the ability to drill
down to categories, *then* to series titles, then episodes, sorted by
original air date. (mvpmc gets close, but shows episodes once you get
Anyway, I'm pointlessly griping to the wrong audience...but I guess my
point is that this makes me less motivated to invest a bunch of effort
into getting it working, if the end result is going to be worse
usability compared to mvpmc. (Though obviously better codec support and
Who knows, maybe fixing the UI problems will be comparatively easy, once
the protocol issues are resolved.
(I've also tried out the "MythBox" add-on and using the older style
mythtv:// service path, but neither seems to support the old back-end,
or are otherwise broken. (And both have even worse UI.))
> The ideal solution here would be to transition mvpmc to use the libcmyth
> repository on github, instead of the built-in version.
> However, I really have no idea how much interest there would be in
> doing that, or how much use mvpmc is even getting these days.
If mvpmc development has effectively ceased, does that make sense?
Is there anyone still actively working on porting mvpmc to X or anything