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#1050 Clean Up Start Menu Per MS Best Practices

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Mumble (514)
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2012-12-01
2012-10-26
jjniven
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With the release of Windows 8, the mumble start menu entries have become noticeable. Microsoft has put out a Best Practices guideline to follow located here http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/windows/desktop/aa511447.aspx

This is what it looks like now http://i.imgur.com/Yvvw8.png

Basically, just remove everything except the Mumble.exe

Google has recently fixed Chrome to follow the guidelines as stated here
Windows
Removed “Uninstall Google Chrome” shortcut from the Start menu as recommended by Microsoft’s best practices article for the Start menu (http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/windows/desktop/aa511447.aspx).
http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/

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  • jjniven
    jjniven
    2012-10-26

     
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  • Kissaki
    Kissaki
    2012-10-26

    The guideline seems to be targeted not only at Win8, but also Vista/Win7.

    Question: Do we want something else for XP? I’d say no …

    Tasks:
    1. Adjust installer to only create program shortcuts to Mumble and Murmur
    no subfolders

    Question: Do we want to add descriptive naming?
    Instead of “Mumble” “Mumble VoIP” and instead of “Murmur” use “Mumble Server Murmur”?
    I am for doing that.

    so that users can understand the primary purpose of your program by its name alone

     
  • Mikkel Krautz
    Mikkel Krautz
    2012-10-26

    I think we should keep the simple names.

     
  • jjniven
    jjniven
    2012-10-26

    I'd say use Mumble and Murmur names, the hover tips located in that best practices can elaborate on what they do.

     
  • jjniven
    jjniven
    2012-10-26

    Scroll to the very bottom of the best practice, that's what I'm referring to.

    Use Start menu infotips to describe the item concisely and list the primary tasks that users can perform with the item.
    Be helpful. Focus on what users can do. Don't just repeat the item name or even use it in the description at all.
    Be specific. Avoid generic verbs and catch-all phrases like and other tasks and and other kinds of documents. If the information is important, list it specifically; otherwise, assume that users understand that not everything is listed in the infotips.
    Be concise. Use 25 words or less. Longer infotips discourage reading.
    Start with a present-tense, imperative verb such as create, edit, show, and send. Prefer specific verbs over generic verbs such as manage and open.
    Incorrect:

    Correct:

    In the incorrect example, the infotip starts with a generic verb.
    Get right to the point. Don't use verbs that apply to any Start menu item, such as start, lets you, use to, and provides.
    Don't use language that sounds like marketing.

     
  • Kissaki
    Kissaki
    2012-10-26

    Yup, we’ll leave names as they are.

    Thus:
    1. Adjust installer to only create program shortcuts to Mumble and Murmur
    no subfolders
    2. Make the shortcuts contain infotips (called comment on the shortcuts properties it seems)

     
  • Stefan H.
    Stefan H.
    2012-10-30

    I have a patchset locally removing the superfluous shortcuts (which I'll apply shortly). The infotips will have to wait till after the next release as they introduce new strings and we already entered freeze for 1.2.4.

     
  • Stefan H.
    Stefan H.
    2012-11-05

    Implemented in:
    756f9cf Remove license, readme and uninstaller shortcuts from application menu.
    Fixup with 48646c0

    Thanks for suggesting this change.

    Would be great if you could create a new feature request for the other thing as I'll close this one.

     
  • Stefan H.
    Stefan H.
    2012-11-05

    • status: open --> closed
    • milestone: --> Current_GIT