From: Meece, C. T <cli...@bp...> - 2007-04-25 14:05:16
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Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the fewest number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, and some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? =20 -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of Neil Wrightson Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:37 PM To: 'The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program' Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions Hi Clifford?? Not sure if that is your name. Sorry to here about your break-in.=20 I've just been adding some more MS13 X10 PIR motion sensors around my house both internally and externally. These not only add to the functionality of the house but also to the security. Basically I use the PIR's to trigger light scenes as well as annunciations via the speakers spread throughout the house. Misterhouse has some operating modes that can be set I.e. Sleeping Mode (ALL, Nobody, Parents, Kids), Security Mode (Armed,Unarmed) etc etc. The way I have my MH setup is - When MH sees movement via the PIR's, it normally just turns on the appropriate lights, if the security is also armed it announces things like "Intruder in Office Detected" etc via the PA speakers. Not that I have been broken into yet but if I were a potential thief and I had a speaker above my head blurting things out like that, I don't think that I would be sticking around to fine out what else was going to happen.=20 As an example http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/article1877.html Regards, Neil Wrightson. N.W.Electronics ABN 76 768 513 867 Embedded Controllers and Home Automation Products Web : www.nwe.net.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Meece, Clifford T [mailto:cli...@bp...] > Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:13 PM > To: mis...@li... > Subject: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions >=20 >=20 > Well, >=20 > My garage just got broken into and several thousands of dollars worth=20 > of tools were stolen.... >=20 > I was wondering if some experienced users here could help me make some > 'architectural' decisions regarding mh and hardware. >=20 > My house has a security system with motion detectors, wireless door=20 > sensors, etc. It is a lynx something or other. I installed and=20 > programmed it myself, and it has some x10 capabilities, but I'm away=20 > from the house right now. I also have a some spare detectors not yet=20 > installed. >=20 > I would like to install mh, and get some wireless cameras, light=20 > fixture controls, maybe a siren, garage door control etc. >=20 > What hw kit do you recommend I start with? Will I need a separate=20 > security system in the garage if I'm out of range from the Lynx? Or=20 > can I get x10 door sensors and motion sensors and eliminate the lynx?. > Then I still need a keypad for the garage right? Can I integrate the=20 > lynx with mh? >=20 > Another (possible) wrinkle is that I only have voip, and only for=20 > dialout, if that matters at all. >=20 > I'm usually more patient and a self-learner and certainly probably=20 > could have trolled through the archives for most of this, but, kinda=20 > feeling sorry for myself right now, so take it easy on me ;-) > =20 > Thanks, >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - > the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No=20 > limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to:=20 http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 |
From: Meece, C. T <cli...@bp...> - 2007-04-25 17:09:05
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Well, I don't want to break the bank. I do want to be able to control lights, will need some motion sensors, garge door control, capability of wired and wireless, keypad at the garage door to do a makeshift 'security'-type system, a few cameras. Are the wireless cameras on the x10 site cctv? Or wifi? I do happen to have a hauppage 250 if required. The webpages seem to imply that weedtech makes an x10 package, but I couldn't find it.=20 -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of Jason Sharpee Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:24 AM To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions Depends on the budget. My standard hardware: I am now installing server class PC's (redundant PS, Raid 1, ECC Ram) in peoples homes running Fedora Linux, with a Digium FXS PCI card (optional) or new VOIP phones, serial UPB PIM, UBP I/O modules, UBP Sprinklers (Rain8), serial W800RF32A (X10RF), and WinTV Hauppauge PVR cards (1 for CCTV, 1 for MythTV). I multiplex the CCTV cameras into the same WinTV card on different channels using "Motion" program for security recordings and motion detection. (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: > > If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the fewest > number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, and=20 > some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 |
From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 17:18:45
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > Well, I don't want to break the bank. I do want to be able to control > lights, will need some motion sensors, garge door control, capability of > wired and wireless, keypad at the garage door to do a makeshift > 'security'-type system, a few cameras. UPB is mid range priced I think. Not nearly as cheap as other solutions, but not nearly as expensive as some LonWorks/Echelon stuff I have used. I have used Smarthome's keypad http://www.smarthome.com/7459.html wired into a UPB I/O module that controls garage and security as well. http://www.smarthome.com/22924.html I have these units scattered about in many homes. I only use wired Cameras for motion capture applications. Mostly I am using very low lux Sony EXHAD (non-ir) cameras and those dont come in wifi / analog RF (that I know of) X10 cameras are RCA outputs and the wireless ones use analog RF (noisy) video transmission. -J > Are the wireless cameras on the x10 site cctv? Or wifi? I do happen to > have a hauppage 250 if required. > > The webpages seem to imply that weedtech makes an x10 package, but I > couldn't find it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of > Jason Sharpee > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:24 AM > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program > Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > > Depends on the budget. > > My standard hardware: > I am now installing server class PC's (redundant PS, Raid 1, ECC Ram) in > peoples homes running Fedora Linux, with a Digium FXS PCI card > (optional) or new VOIP phones, serial UPB PIM, UBP I/O modules, UBP > Sprinklers (Rain8), serial W800RF32A (X10RF), and WinTV Hauppauge PVR > cards (1 for CCTV, 1 for MythTV). > > I multiplex the CCTV cameras into the same WinTV card on different > channels using "Motion" program for security recordings and motion > detection. (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and > monitor multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > >> Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: >> >> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the fewest > >> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, and >> some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - > the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. > Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > |
From: Meece, C. T <cli...@bp...> - 2007-04-25 17:46:37
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Does anyone make a wireless x10 keypad, like a security keypad? My idea is to put it in the garge, and have misterhouse respond to codes to put the alarm system in various states.=20 -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of Jason Sharpee Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:19 PM To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > Well, I don't want to break the bank. I do want to be able to control > lights, will need some motion sensors, garge door control, capability=20 > of wired and wireless, keypad at the garage door to do a makeshift=20 > 'security'-type system, a few cameras. UPB is mid range priced I think. Not nearly as cheap as other solutions, but not nearly as expensive as some LonWorks/Echelon stuff I have used. I have used Smarthome's keypad http://www.smarthome.com/7459.html wired into a UPB I/O module that controls garage and security as well.=20 http://www.smarthome.com/22924.html I have these units scattered about in many homes. I only use wired Cameras for motion capture applications. Mostly I am using very low lux Sony EXHAD (non-ir) cameras and those dont come in wifi / analog RF (that I know of) X10 cameras are RCA outputs and the wireless ones use analog RF (noisy) video transmission. -J > Are the wireless cameras on the x10 site cctv? Or wifi? I do happen to > have a hauppage 250 if required. > > The webpages seem to imply that weedtech makes an x10 package, but I > couldn't find it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of > Jason Sharpee > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:24 AM > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program > Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > > Depends on the budget. > > My standard hardware: > I am now installing server class PC's (redundant PS, Raid 1, ECC Ram) in > peoples homes running Fedora Linux, with a Digium FXS PCI card > (optional) or new VOIP phones, serial UPB PIM, UBP I/O modules, UBP > Sprinklers (Rain8), serial W800RF32A (X10RF), and WinTV Hauppauge PVR > cards (1 for CCTV, 1 for MythTV). > > I multiplex the CCTV cameras into the same WinTV card on different > channels using "Motion" program for security recordings and motion > detection. (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and > monitor multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > >> Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: >> >> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the fewest > >> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, and >> some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - > the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. > Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 |
From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 18:01:54
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Use an X10 Palm pad? Long time ago when I was using X10 stuff, I would get creative with those palm pads and MS13's outdoors by coating them with clear silicon ;) -J On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > Does anyone make a wireless x10 keypad, like a security keypad? My idea > is to put it in the garge, and have misterhouse respond to codes to put > the alarm system in various states. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of > Jason Sharpee > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:19 PM > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program > Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > >> Well, I don't want to break the bank. I do want to be able to control > >> lights, will need some motion sensors, garge door control, capability >> of wired and wireless, keypad at the garage door to do a makeshift >> 'security'-type system, a few cameras. > > UPB is mid range priced I think. Not nearly as cheap as other > solutions, but not nearly as expensive as some LonWorks/Echelon stuff I > have used. I have used Smarthome's keypad > http://www.smarthome.com/7459.html wired into a UPB I/O module that > controls garage and security as well. > http://www.smarthome.com/22924.html I have these units scattered about > in many homes. > > I only use wired Cameras for motion capture applications. Mostly I am > using very low lux Sony EXHAD (non-ir) cameras and those dont come in > wifi / analog RF (that I know of) X10 cameras are RCA outputs and the > wireless ones use analog RF (noisy) video transmission. > > -J > > >> Are the wireless cameras on the x10 site cctv? Or wifi? I do happen > to >> have a hauppage 250 if required. >> >> The webpages seem to imply that weedtech makes an x10 package, but I >> couldn't find it. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mis...@li... >> [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of >> Jason Sharpee >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:24 AM >> To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program >> Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions >> >> Depends on the budget. >> >> My standard hardware: >> I am now installing server class PC's (redundant PS, Raid 1, ECC Ram) > in >> peoples homes running Fedora Linux, with a Digium FXS PCI card >> (optional) or new VOIP phones, serial UPB PIM, UBP I/O modules, UBP >> Sprinklers (Rain8), serial W800RF32A (X10RF), and WinTV Hauppauge PVR >> cards (1 for CCTV, 1 for MythTV). >> >> I multiplex the CCTV cameras into the same WinTV card on different >> channels using "Motion" program for security recordings and motion >> detection. (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and >> monitor multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) >> >> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: >> >>> Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: >>> >>> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the > fewest >> >>> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, and >>> some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - >> the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No > limits. >> Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> ________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to: >> http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> ________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > > > |
From: Tim S. <tp...@ma...> - 2007-04-25 19:35:58
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On Wed, April 25, 2007 14:01, Jason Sharpee said: > > Use an X10 Palm pad? Long time ago when I was using X10 stuff, I would > get creative with those palm pads and MS13's outdoors by coating them with > clear silicon ;) Asterisk and agi scripts are your friends! You can call into your Asterisk box, get status (text to speech), and have certain menu options to arm/disarm/reset the MH modes. Tim -- Tim Sailer Coastal Internet, Inc. www.buoy.com 631-399-2910 |
From: Meece, C. T <cli...@bp...> - 2007-04-25 18:35:23
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I just looked at this one: http://www.x10.com/products/x10_hr12a.htm but it seems more geared toward lighting and appliance control. I'm looking more for a 4x4 or 3x4 matrix keypad that I can type a security pin into and then a 'function', like arm/disarm. =20 -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of Jason Sharpee Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:02 PM To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions Use an X10 Palm pad? Long time ago when I was using X10 stuff, I would get creative with those palm pads and MS13's outdoors by coating them with clear silicon ;) -J On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > Does anyone make a wireless x10 keypad, like a security keypad? My=20 > idea is to put it in the garge, and have misterhouse respond to codes=20 > to put the alarm system in various states. > > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of=20 > Jason Sharpee > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:19 PM > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program > Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > >> Well, I don't want to break the bank. I do want to be able to=20 >> control > >> lights, will need some motion sensors, garge door control, capability >> of wired and wireless, keypad at the garage door to do a makeshift=20 >> 'security'-type system, a few cameras. > > UPB is mid range priced I think. Not nearly as cheap as other=20 > solutions, but not nearly as expensive as some LonWorks/Echelon stuff=20 > I have used. I have used Smarthome's keypad=20 > http://www.smarthome.com/7459.html wired into a UPB I/O module that=20 > controls garage and security as well. > http://www.smarthome.com/22924.html I have these units scattered=20 > about in many homes. > > I only use wired Cameras for motion capture applications. Mostly I am > using very low lux Sony EXHAD (non-ir) cameras and those dont come in=20 > wifi / analog RF (that I know of) X10 cameras are RCA outputs and the > wireless ones use analog RF (noisy) video transmission. > > -J > > >> Are the wireless cameras on the x10 site cctv? Or wifi? I do happen > to >> have a hauppage 250 if required. >> >> The webpages seem to imply that weedtech makes an x10 package, but I=20 >> couldn't find it. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mis...@li... >> [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of >> Jason Sharpee >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:24 AM >> To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program >> Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions >> >> Depends on the budget. >> >> My standard hardware: >> I am now installing server class PC's (redundant PS, Raid 1, ECC Ram) > in >> peoples homes running Fedora Linux, with a Digium FXS PCI card >> (optional) or new VOIP phones, serial UPB PIM, UBP I/O modules, UBP=20 >> Sprinklers (Rain8), serial W800RF32A (X10RF), and WinTV Hauppauge PVR >> cards (1 for CCTV, 1 for MythTV). >> >> I multiplex the CCTV cameras into the same WinTV card on different=20 >> channels using "Motion" program for security recordings and motion=20 >> detection. (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and=20 >> monitor multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) >> >> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: >> >>> Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: >>> >>> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the > fewest >> >>> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10,=20 >>> and some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C=20 >> - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No > limits. >> Just data. 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From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 18:40:27
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Exactly. I had one of those stuck outside my back door to arm/disarm alarm and door strike. (long time ago) They have dark brown/black ones as well. Thats the only thing I can think of that would be wireless. I still would be hesitant to rely on something like that again though. -J On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > I just looked at this one: > http://www.x10.com/products/x10_hr12a.htm > > but it seems more geared toward lighting and appliance control. I'm > looking more for a 4x4 or 3x4 matrix keypad that I can type a security > pin into and then a 'function', like arm/disarm. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of > Jason Sharpee > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:02 PM > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program > Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > > > Use an X10 Palm pad? Long time ago when I was using X10 stuff, I would > get creative with those palm pads and MS13's outdoors by coating them > with clear silicon ;) > > -J > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > >> Does anyone make a wireless x10 keypad, like a security keypad? My >> idea is to put it in the garge, and have misterhouse respond to codes >> to put the alarm system in various states. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mis...@li... >> [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of >> Jason Sharpee >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:19 PM >> To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program >> Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions >> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: >> >>> Well, I don't want to break the bank. I do want to be able to >>> control >> >>> lights, will need some motion sensors, garge door control, capability > >>> of wired and wireless, keypad at the garage door to do a makeshift >>> 'security'-type system, a few cameras. >> >> UPB is mid range priced I think. Not nearly as cheap as other >> solutions, but not nearly as expensive as some LonWorks/Echelon stuff >> I have used. I have used Smarthome's keypad >> http://www.smarthome.com/7459.html wired into a UPB I/O module that >> controls garage and security as well. >> http://www.smarthome.com/22924.html I have these units scattered >> about in many homes. >> >> I only use wired Cameras for motion capture applications. Mostly I am > >> using very low lux Sony EXHAD (non-ir) cameras and those dont come in >> wifi / analog RF (that I know of) X10 cameras are RCA outputs and the > >> wireless ones use analog RF (noisy) video transmission. >> >> -J >> >> >>> Are the wireless cameras on the x10 site cctv? Or wifi? I do happen >> to >>> have a hauppage 250 if required. >>> >>> The webpages seem to imply that weedtech makes an x10 package, but I >>> couldn't find it. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mis...@li... >>> [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of > >>> Jason Sharpee >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:24 AM >>> To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program >>> Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions >>> >>> Depends on the budget. >>> >>> My standard hardware: >>> I am now installing server class PC's (redundant PS, Raid 1, ECC Ram) >> in >>> peoples homes running Fedora Linux, with a Digium FXS PCI card >>> (optional) or new VOIP phones, serial UPB PIM, UBP I/O modules, UBP >>> Sprinklers (Rain8), serial W800RF32A (X10RF), and WinTV Hauppauge PVR > >>> cards (1 for CCTV, 1 for MythTV). >>> >>> I multiplex the CCTV cameras into the same WinTV card on different >>> channels using "Motion" program for security recordings and motion >>> detection. (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and >>> monitor multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: >>>> >>>> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the >> fewest >>> >>>> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, >>>> and some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I > buy? >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >>> - >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C >>> - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No >> limits. >>> Just data. 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From: Roussell, T. <TRo...@dr...> - 2007-04-25 19:04:28
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Have you looked at an Elk M1 security panel yet? If not you should as it does way more than just security. There's a ton of info about it and it's capabilities in the forums at Cocoontech.com. I don't know if there is already support in MH for it but from what I understand the serial protocol is fairly easy to understand/implement. Terry >>> >>> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the > fewest >> >>> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10,=20 >>> and some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, = is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain = material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. = Any unauthorized review; usage, reliance, disclosure or distribution by = others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. = If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by = reply e-mail and delete and destroy all copies of the original message. = Thank You. |
From: Rick S. <mis...@co...> - 2007-04-26 00:42:28
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Even with 3 buttons, all you need is a sequence that MH is "listening" for. As far as answering your original question, I would recommend: 4 COM ports a W800 a CM17 (I don't use a CM11a, I don't have anything "on the line" I listen to/for, and this way it's WAY more reliable) a TM751 (that'd be the way the CM17 puts signals on the wire a few motion sensors a key pad A few of the appliance outlets That's a good starting point, and you can build out from there. If you want the security ability, the X10 security system can be fairly easily integrated into MH, except that as far as I know there's no way to have MH transmit the arm/disarm commands, but it can receive them. Rick At 02:35 PM 4/25/2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: >I just looked at this one: >http://www.x10.com/products/x10_hr12a.htm > > but it seems more geared toward lighting and appliance control. I'm >looking more for a 4x4 or 3x4 matrix keypad that I can type a security >pin into and then a 'function', like arm/disarm. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mis...@li... >[mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of >Jason Sharpee >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:02 PM >To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program >Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > > >Use an X10 Palm pad? Long time ago when I was using X10 stuff, I would >get creative with those palm pads and MS13's outdoors by coating them >with clear silicon ;) > >-J > > >On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > > > Does anyone make a wireless x10 keypad, like a security keypad? My > > idea is to put it in the garge, and have misterhouse respond to codes > > to put the alarm system in various states. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mis...@li... > > [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of > > Jason Sharpee > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:19 PM > > To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program > > Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > > > >> Well, I don't want to break the bank. I do want to be able to > >> control > > > >> lights, will need some motion sensors, garge door control, capability > > >> of wired and wireless, keypad at the garage door to do a makeshift > >> 'security'-type system, a few cameras. > > > > UPB is mid range priced I think. Not nearly as cheap as other > > solutions, but not nearly as expensive as some LonWorks/Echelon stuff > > I have used. I have used Smarthome's keypad > > http://www.smarthome.com/7459.html wired into a UPB I/O module that > > controls garage and security as well. > > http://www.smarthome.com/22924.html I have these units scattered > > about in many homes. > > > > I only use wired Cameras for motion capture applications. Mostly I am > > > using very low lux Sony EXHAD (non-ir) cameras and those dont come in > > wifi / analog RF (that I know of) X10 cameras are RCA outputs and the > > > wireless ones use analog RF (noisy) video transmission. > > > > -J > > > > > >> Are the wireless cameras on the x10 site cctv? Or wifi? I do happen > > to > >> have a hauppage 250 if required. > >> > >> The webpages seem to imply that weedtech makes an x10 package, but I > >> couldn't find it. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mis...@li... > >> [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of > > >> Jason Sharpee > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:24 AM > >> To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program > >> Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > >> > >> Depends on the budget. > >> > >> My standard hardware: > >> I am now installing server class PC's (redundant PS, Raid 1, ECC Ram) > > in > >> peoples homes running Fedora Linux, with a Digium FXS PCI card > >> (optional) or new VOIP phones, serial UPB PIM, UBP I/O modules, UBP > >> Sprinklers (Rain8), serial W800RF32A (X10RF), and WinTV Hauppauge PVR > > >> cards (1 for CCTV, 1 for MythTV). > >> > >> I multiplex the CCTV cameras into the same WinTV card on different > >> channels using "Motion" program for security recordings and motion > >> detection. (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and > >> monitor multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > >> > >>> Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: > >>> > >>> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the > > fewest > >> > >>> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, > >>> and some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I >buy? > >> > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > >> - > >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C > >> - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No > > limits. > >> Just data. 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From: Meece, C. T <cli...@bp...> - 2007-04-26 15:32:27
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Yes, I think the elk is looking pretty good. But I do like the flexibility of MH. Anyone out there integrated the elk into MH? What I like about the elk, is it seems to strike the right balance between security and automation. =20 -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of Roussell, Terry Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:04 PM To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions Have you looked at an Elk M1 security panel yet? If not you should as it does way more than just security. There's a ton of info about it and it's capabilities in the forums at Cocoontech.com. I don't know if there is already support in MH for it but from what I understand the serial protocol is fairly easy to understand/implement. Terry >>> >>> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the > fewest >> >>> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10,=20 >>> and some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. Any unauthorized review; usage, reliance, disclosure or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank You. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 |
From: Meece, C. T <cli...@bp...> - 2007-04-26 15:44:24
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Actually, I think I'm going to expand the scope of my question a bit here. In addition to taking care of my garage break in issue, I am also about to renovate my house. In past renovations I have run some cat 5 cable, some security wire etc., but I'd like to take it up a notch. Now that I'm looking down the barrel of buying lots of equipment anyway, and spending a lot of money on renovation, I might as well 'do it up'. I'm very handy and will doing most things myself. Are there any sites that can help with the planning on this? I'm looking to include speakers in each room, cat 5 cables for data, control panels in each room, capabilities for whole house audio, security, x10 or similar control capability, etc etc. Should I just home run all the various device cables for maximum component flexibility later? Who is a good source for the speakers and control panels? I'd like the control panels to be flexible enough to say, control some audio, arm security, control lights and work with the intercom features. Thanks, -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of Meece, Clifford T Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:32 AM To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions Yes, I think the elk is looking pretty good. But I do like the flexibility of MH. Anyone out there integrated the elk into MH? What I like about the elk, is it seems to strike the right balance between security and automation. =20 -----Original Message----- From: mis...@li... [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of Roussell, Terry Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:04 PM To: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions Have you looked at an Elk M1 security panel yet? If not you should as it does way more than just security. There's a ton of info about it and it's capabilities in the forums at Cocoontech.com. I don't know if there is already support in MH for it but from what I understand the serial protocol is fairly easy to understand/implement. Terry >>> >>> If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the > fewest >> >>> number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10,=20 >>> and some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product. Any unauthorized review; usage, reliance, disclosure or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank You. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=3D1365 |
From: Joel D. <jr...@io...> - 2007-04-25 14:56:33
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For the generic analog and digital i/o, mh has good support for the cards from Weeder www.weedtech.com . You can string a bunch of them on a single serial port. I use a cm11 for x10 and have had no problems with it so far, though others haven't been so fortunate. I don't use wireless x10 so I can't answer to that. Joel On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, it would appear that Meece, Clifford T wrote: > Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: > > If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the fewest > number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, and > some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mis...@li... > [mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of > Neil Wrightson > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:37 PM > To: 'The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program' > Subject: Re: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions > > Hi Clifford?? > > Not sure if that is your name. > > Sorry to here about your break-in. > > I've just been adding some more MS13 X10 PIR motion sensors around my > house both internally and externally. > These not only add to the functionality of the house but also to the > security. > Basically I use the PIR's to trigger light scenes as well as > annunciations via the speakers spread throughout the house. > Misterhouse has some operating modes that can be set I.e. Sleeping Mode > (ALL, Nobody, Parents, Kids), Security Mode (Armed,Unarmed) etc etc. > The way I have my MH setup is - When MH sees movement via the PIR's, it > normally just turns on the appropriate lights, if the security is also > armed it announces things like "Intruder in Office Detected" etc via the > PA speakers. > Not that I have been broken into yet but if I were a potential thief and > I had a speaker above my head blurting things out like that, I don't > think that I would be sticking around to fine out what else was going to > happen. > As an example http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/article1877.html > > Regards, > > Neil Wrightson. > N.W.Electronics > ABN 76 768 513 867 > Embedded Controllers and Home Automation Products > Web : www.nwe.net.au > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Meece, Clifford T [mailto:cli...@bp...] >> Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:13 PM >> To: mis...@li... >> Subject: [mh] newbie needs some starting suggestions >> >> >> Well, >> >> My garage just got broken into and several thousands of dollars worth >> of tools were stolen.... >> >> I was wondering if some experienced users here could help me make some > >> 'architectural' decisions regarding mh and hardware. >> >> My house has a security system with motion detectors, wireless door >> sensors, etc. It is a lynx something or other. I installed and >> programmed it myself, and it has some x10 capabilities, but I'm away >> from the house right now. I also have a some spare detectors not yet >> installed. >> >> I would like to install mh, and get some wireless cameras, light >> fixture controls, maybe a siren, garage door control etc. >> >> What hw kit do you recommend I start with? Will I need a separate >> security system in the garage if I'm out of range from the Lynx? Or >> can I get x10 door sensors and motion sensors and eliminate the lynx?. > >> Then I still need a keypad for the garage right? Can I integrate the >> lynx with mh? >> >> Another (possible) wrinkle is that I only have voip, and only for >> dialout, if that matters at all. >> >> I'm usually more patient and a self-learner and certainly probably >> could have trolled through the archives for most of this, but, kinda >> feeling sorry for myself right now, so take it easy on me ;-) >> >> Thanks, >> >> |
From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 15:24:25
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Depends on the budget. My standard hardware: I am now installing server class PC's (redundant PS, Raid 1, ECC Ram) in peoples homes running Fedora Linux, with a Digium FXS PCI card (optional) or new VOIP phones, serial UPB PIM, UBP I/O modules, UBP Sprinklers (Rain8), serial W800RF32A (X10RF), and WinTV Hauppauge PVR cards (1 for CCTV, 1 for MythTV). I multiplex the CCTV cameras into the same WinTV card on different channels using "Motion" program for security recordings and motion detection. (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Meece, Clifford T wrote: > Perhaps if I narrow my question I will get more responses: > > If I want to have the most future expansion capability with the fewest > number of pc ports used and be able to support x10, wireless x10, and > some generic digital/analog i/o, then what component(s) should I buy? |
From: Gregg L. <gr...@li...> - 2007-04-25 15:26:26
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Quoting Jason Sharpee (4/25/07 11:24 AM): > (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor > multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) yes |
From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 15:47:23
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Gregg Liming wrote: > Quoting Jason Sharpee (4/25/07 11:24 AM): >> (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor >> multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) > > yes Ill make that my weekend project to try out ZoneMinder then. Thanks |
From: Joel D. <jr...@io...> - 2007-04-25 15:33:13
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, it would appear that Gregg Liming wrote: > Quoting Jason Sharpee (4/25/07 11:24 AM): >> (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor >> multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) > > yes Interesting. Any idea how fast it can switch channels and check for motion? Can it get reasonable response time when monitoring say, 4 channels of cameras? I realize the switching time is a function of the bttv card rather than ZM. Joel -- Joel Davidson Austin, TX jr...@io... |
From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 15:49:48
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On 4 zones (channels) I get about 1-2 fps. I created a patch for Motion to fix a bug and increase performance that hasnt been submitted yet (Im out of sync with head), but can give you a code dump if you want. -J On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Joel Davidson wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, it would appear that Gregg Liming wrote: > >> Quoting Jason Sharpee (4/25/07 11:24 AM): >>> (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor >>> multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) >> >> yes > > Interesting. Any idea how fast it can switch channels and check for > motion? Can it get reasonable response time when monitoring say, 4 > channels of cameras? I realize the switching time is a function of > the bttv card rather than ZM. > > Joel > |
From: Gregg L. <gr...@li...> - 2007-04-25 15:50:28
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Quoting Joel Davidson (4/25/07 11:33 AM): > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, it would appear that Gregg Liming wrote: > >> Quoting Jason Sharpee (4/25/07 11:24 AM): >>> (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor >>> multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) >> yes > > Interesting. Any idea how fast it can switch channels and check for > motion? Can it get reasonable response time when monitoring say, 4 > channels of cameras? I realize the switching time is a function of > the bttv card rather than ZM. The short answer is "I don't know". An empirical answer for a load half of what you are asking (I currently only have 2 cameras) is that it's plenty fast; and, I'm currently using an exceptionally cheap (multiplexed BTTV) ebay "special" e.g., $25. ZM allows you to set "desired" frame rate for "normal" and "alarm" conditions. I have both of them "idling" at 5 FPS--which, for my uses, is more than sufficient for motion detection and then throttle up to 10 FPS on alarm (since I only record on alarm and want any "incidents" to be recorded at a better speed). I'm pretty sure that the upper limit on these cheaper cards w/ 4 cameras is 5FPS. FWIW: I have run a single camera at 20 FPS and both cameras at 10FPS on idle before adjusting. As to motion detection... one of my cameras stares out over the front porch--idling at 5FPS and sees the entire porch in its field of view. My paper is delivered early in the morning (usually just at daybreak) and hurled from the drive to the porch. My motion settings pick it up somewhere in the air before it lands. I use this example because at 5FPS, that's not many frames to catch the movement; yet, I have relatively few false alarms (hovering, curious birds are a problem no matter what). |
From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 15:50:46
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You can switch channels faster, however, depending on the card the settle period varies and it is best to throttle the hauppage branded bttv cards to around 1-2 fps (with very little noise) -J On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Joel Davidson wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, it would appear that Gregg Liming wrote: > >> Quoting Jason Sharpee (4/25/07 11:24 AM): >>> (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor >>> multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) >> >> yes > > Interesting. Any idea how fast it can switch channels and check for > motion? Can it get reasonable response time when monitoring say, 4 > channels of cameras? I realize the switching time is a function of > the bttv card rather than ZM. > > Joel > |
From: Joel D. <jr...@io...> - 2007-04-25 16:01:44
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Ok, thanks. I've got a Hauppage card though I haven't gotten it working since I upgraded my system to FC6. Once I get some construction finished on my house I hope to get back to making all the little doo-dads I've hung off of mh actually start working again. This is on the list. Is it just me, or does everyone have a list that just keeps getting longer. Seems like when I do get to cross something off, there's 2 or 3 new things to be added. Joel On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, it would appear that Jason Sharpee wrote: > You can switch channels faster, however, depending on the card the settle > period varies and it is best to throttle the hauppage branded bttv cards > to around 1-2 fps (with very little noise) > > -J > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Joel Davidson wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, it would appear that Gregg Liming wrote: >> >>> Quoting Jason Sharpee (4/25/07 11:24 AM): >>>> (Gregg, does ZM have the ability to scan channels and monitor >>>> multiple zones on the BTTV cards?) >>> >>> yes >> >> Interesting. Any idea how fast it can switch channels and check for >> motion? Can it get reasonable response time when monitoring say, 4 >> channels of cameras? I realize the switching time is a function of >> the bttv card rather than ZM. >> >> Joel >> |
From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 17:07:59
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> Is it just me, or does everyone have a list that just keeps getting > longer. Seems like when I do get to cross something off, there's 2 or 3 > new things to be added. > Hehe. I have similar problems with my list. ;) My wife and I agreed to a budget each month that gets applied to the "not my time" solutions for things, then I work on what is left over in my free time. That way I am working on items that are not as big of a hurry for my family. It helps a lot. |
From: Jason S. <ja...@sh...> - 2007-04-25 17:10:59
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Does anyone have experience setting up a laser (make-break) beam grid on an outdoor property? Someone has a large property that would be infeasable to cover with motion / camera solutions, but would like an alert if something is present. I have used laser (make-break) detectors indoors for various projects, but would like to extend it to ourdoors using mirrors mounted on stakes reflecting back and forth across the property. Im wondering about performance with Rain / Fog / etc. -J |
From: Tim S. <tp...@ma...> - 2007-04-25 19:38:27
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On Wed, April 25, 2007 13:10, Jason Sharpee said: > > Does anyone have experience setting up a laser (make-break) beam grid on > an outdoor property? Someone has a large property that would be > infeasable to cover with motion / camera solutions, but would like an > alert if something is present. > > I have used laser (make-break) detectors indoors for various projects, but > would like to extend it to ourdoors using mirrors mounted on stakes > reflecting back and forth across the property. Im wondering about > performance with Rain / Fog / etc. Having dealt with Laser communication for line of site burst traffic, I'd run screaming from that project. A single raindrop will disrupt your beam, as will fog, a falling leaf, a bird, a bumble bee, etc... Tim -- Tim Sailer Coastal Internet, Inc. www.buoy.com 631-399-2910 |
From: John M. <jo...@wy...> - 2007-04-25 17:15:10
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I've started working on something like this. A couple things I've found. 1) Animals will trigger it. 2) Stakes don't come close to holding tolerances well enough to keep alignment. 3) Debouncing the input seems to make it work during most weather. I have holes bored into concrete fence posts, hiding the mirrors/detectors and making things much more stable. On 4/25/07, Jason Sharpee <ja...@sh...> wrote: > > > Does anyone have experience setting up a laser (make-break) beam grid on > an outdoor property? Someone has a large property that would be > infeasable to cover with motion / camera solutions, but would like an > alert if something is present. > > I have used laser (make-break) detectors indoors for various projects, but > would like to extend it to ourdoors using mirrors mounted on stakes > reflecting back and forth across the property. Im wondering about > performance with Rain / Fog / etc. > > -J > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from this list, go to: > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 > |