I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but if you read that agreement carefully, it seems to be written toward an individual, not a group. Someone should check with Smarthome before you get too fired up about this. I doubt they would permit it (they do have to approve each person's access), and even if they said they would, I'd want to get an updated agreement from them explicitly allowing it.

Besides, even if you did get it through, you could never share anything with the list without being in violation of the publishing provisions in the agreement. Overall, I think it's a non-starter.


--Mark

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Carl Friedberg <friedberg@comets.com> wrote:
Hi Gary & the list,

Me too. If this comes to fruition, I might even by an Insteon
starter kit (if there is such a thing). :-)

Carl Friedberg
www.comets.com
carl.friedberg@comets.com
http://about.me/carl.friedberg
-----Original Message-----
From: Garry Doucette [mailto:garry.doucette@shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 6:29 PM
To: 'The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program'
Subject: Re: [mh] Link to insteon developer kits.

Hi Guys

I've enjoyed using Misterhouse for many years and really appreciate the
efforts of those responsible and the friendly and helpful community here.

I don't have the skills to contribute in any meaningful way to coding in
Misterhouse. But, I'd be more than willing to make a financial contribution
toward the developer kit.

Regards,

Garry

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc MERLIN [mailto:marc_mh@merlins.org]
Sent: Tuesday, Sep 4, 2012 3:14 PM
To: aeetos@gmail.com; The main list for the MisterHouse home automation
program
Cc: Gregg Liming
Subject: Re: [mh] Link to insteon developer kits.

+Gregg

On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 11:00:21AM -0700, Mark Kendrick wrote:
> Okay, I'm not an attorney myself, but I've read over that agreement
> several times, and although it does prevent me from publishing the
> development manual on my site, I see nothing that limits my right to
> publish software code that implements it. The most restrictive part
> applies to products that I brand with the Insteon logo, which of course I
wouldn't do with my code.
>
> Which part of it do you feel creates a restriction that would preclude
> development for open source purposes?

I'm pretty sure it's not their intent and I think this is how Gregg wrote
his code.
Smarthome is not a bunch of idiots that go around suing people who wrote
open source code to use the hardware they sell.

In other words, it sucks that they charge for the info, but they suing over
some license agreement is not going to happen. In the very worst case, they
would send a cease and desist, which again they won't do because it's
utterly stupid.

If Gregg doesn't have the current docs, I'm fine putting money into the pool
to get the current developer kit too.

Marc
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