One of the problems with Perl is the infamous


"There's more than one way to do it"


This has often driven me to distraction, but it is a plus and a minus for the perl language. Perl is not an easy language to learn. Those who are already facile with awk, gawk, or sed, and know regular expressions and Unix command line hackery, do very well. Those of us who are just part-time perlers: it's always a struggle, and you need to constantly refer to books and good code examples.


Do you have any perl reference books? I've found all of the O'Reilly books helpful, and Apress has a particularly good one as well, "Pro Perl" by Peter Wainwright. O'Reilly books are completely DRM free; Apress requires a password. For either, you can make as many copies as you want for your own use. I have perhaps 50 digital reference books, which I keep on my iPad, (some) iPhone, and every PC in regular use. They are invaluable. O'Reilly has multiple formats (including for Kindle); can't remember with Apress.


Good luck, and with patience and persistence, you will get it. Besides, the folks on this list are remarkable for their patience and willingness to help. It's a great list.


Thanks to all.


Carl Friedberg

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From: Thomas Paine []
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 12:56 PM
To: Kevin Robert Keegan
Cc: The main list for the MisterHouse home automation program
Subject: Re: [mh] Perl Tidy Survey - aka "27 Questions About Things You Never Thought About in Coding"


I just completed the survey now, not that I have really any experience or knowledge on coding.

I picked answers that I would like to see the code done as, that may help me learn to code better.


I am keen to see a standard code base. One thing I found that while trying to learn to create my own code, is that examples I was following along with, and then suggestions by other users were all wildly different, and I didn't really understand what I was doing or using or implementing, it either just worked by luck, or by chance.



On 24 January 2014 15:45, Kevin Robert Keegan <> wrote:

So we have 13 responses to the survey.  This is a pretty low number, but luckily in most cases it seems we have broad consensus, meaning 8+ votes for a particular style.  The answers that have less of a consensus, are mostly what I would deem very nuanced differences, that most people are not likely to have a dominant preference on.


I want to hold off on releasing the results, so as not to bias anyone.  But I do want to encourage anyone who has any desire to have a voice in this to vote by next Friday.  At that point I will post the results for discussion.  


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Kevin Robert Keegan <> wrote:

On 01/17/2014 08:11 PM, Kevin Robert Keegan wrote:


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