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John Emmas writes:
> Brian - that's a very clear distinction which I found hugely
Keith Marshall write:
> Even though it's a load of old codswallop?
No, Brian Dessent is spot on. If, on your own machine, you want to
pretend MSYS is anything more than a minimal environment for building
apps with configure scripts, then that's your problem. However, your
churlish partisan response doesn't do anyone any favours. If someone
wants a Unix-like shell on Windows they should be using something like
Cygwin that provides a complete Unix-like environment.
From: Keith Marshall <keithmarshall@us...> - 2008-10-13 22:53:59
On Tuesday 07 October 2008 11:36:34 Ross Ridge wrote:
> No, Brian Dessent is spot on.
No, he is not. He is, perhaps unintentionally, dead wrong, as are
you, (except that, in your case, there is clear intent to mislead).
> If, on your own machine, you want to
> pretend MSYS is anything more than a minimal environment for
> building apps with configure scripts, then that's your problem.
I don't have a problem.
> However, your churlish partisan response
If you consider it churlish to warn users when information posted is
either misleading, or just plain incorrect, then that's your problem.
> doesn't do anyone any favours.
It does, if it prevents just one user from believing misinformation,
such as that which you seek to perpetuate.
> If someone wants a Unix-like shell on Windows they should
> be using something like Cygwin that provides a complete Unix-like
Really? Why? Simply because Ross the Troll says so? No doubt you
will consider me churlish to say so[*], but this is utter bullshit.
The reality is that MSYS provides an advanced Bourne shell for use on
MS-Windows; (it is, in fact, GNU bash). It may be used for anything
that a user may reasonably expect GNU bash to accomplish; that may
quite realistically include a great deal more than only building
applications with configure scripts.
If MSYS meets the user's requirements, to their satisfaction, then it
is a good choice. Cygwin may also be a good choice; it is the user's
prerogative to decide which is the better of these choices, in their
own particular circumstances.
[*] If you do consider this churlish, then you should:
1) Get over it.
2) Grow a backbone, and/or get a life.
3) Request a reversal of your sense-of-humour bypass surgery.