From: Johannes G. <joh...@we...> - 2011-10-18 12:25:25
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Hi, I'm after the combination of the nice macbbok hardware with my favorite OS (usually in its debian testing incarnation), so I purchased a recent macbook pro, which turns out to be version 8.2. I am having a multi-week nightmare with this thing. a) refit-based install lead (eventually) to a booting system with video, yet cdrom remained inaccessible. b) a grub-efi (pure efi) install fails as grub is inable to read the video rom of the Radeon Card and I was unable to get xorg started. I'm very close to just run debian from within vmware running on OSX, yet that really is my last resort. Did anyone get this to work and can give some pointers? Thanks, Joh |
From: Jerome B. <g62...@re...> - 2011-10-18 12:47:04
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Good news: it can be done, even if some part are not yet supported. On 17/10/11 22:33, Johannes Graumann wrote: > Hi, > > I'm after the combination of the nice macbbok hardware with my favorite OS > (usually in its debian testing incarnation), so I purchased a recent macbook > pro, which turns out to be version 8.2. > > I am having a multi-week nightmare with this thing. > a) refit-based install lead (eventually) to a booting system with video, yet > cdrom remained inaccessible. Have you tried refit with grup-pc ? > b) a grub-efi (pure efi) install fails as grub is inable to rerub-pcad the video > rom of the Radeon Card and I was unable to get xorg started. grub-efi is not yet mature enough to with play with. > > I'm very close to just run debian from within vmware running on OSX, yet > that really is my last resort. > > Did anyone get this to work and can give some pointers? > > Thanks, Joh > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct > _______________________________________________ > Mactel-linux-users mailing list > Mac...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users |
From: Scott S. <sco...@gm...> - 2011-10-18 22:35:27
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I'm planning on getting next macbook pro. (I was tempted to get the current gen but I can wait a bit.) I found this thread on the gentoo forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-891920-highlight-macbook+pro.html It may help. ~Scott On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Jerome BENOIT <g62...@re...>wrote: > Good news: it can be done, even if some part are not yet supported. > > On 17/10/11 22:33, Johannes Graumann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm after the combination of the nice macbbok hardware with my favorite > OS > > (usually in its debian testing incarnation), so I purchased a recent > macbook > > pro, which turns out to be version 8.2. > > > > I am having a multi-week nightmare with this thing. > > a) refit-based install lead (eventually) to a booting system with video, > yet > > cdrom remained inaccessible. > > Have you tried refit with grup-pc ? > > > b) a grub-efi (pure efi) install fails as grub is inable to rerub-pcad > the video > > rom of the Radeon Card and I was unable to get xorg started. > > grub-efi is not yet mature enough to with play with. > > > > > I'm very close to just run debian from within vmware running on OSX, yet > > that really is my last resort. > > > > Did anyone get this to work and can give some pointers? > > > > Thanks, Joh > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct > > _______________________________________________ > > Mactel-linux-users mailing list > > Mac...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct > _______________________________________________ > Mactel-linux-users mailing list > Mac...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users > |
From: mike d. <fl...@po...> - 2011-11-22 05:20:38
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Johannes Graumann said: > > grub-efi is not yet mature enough to with play with. > Grrr ... Fortunately, that's not true. I got a late 2011 MBP8,2 a few days ago, and I'm booting in pure EFI mode using the Integrated Graphics Device (IGD). Some issues remain though, as the radeon KMS is on by default during the first part of the boot sequence, resulting in a black screen or a garbled output depending upon the grub options you choose (it's a problem for me since I need to type the passphrase for my / partition). There's a patch though, which I haven't managed to get working yet, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26891 (any help appreciatd) There's also a patch floating around to enable graphic switching through apple_gmux & vga_swicheroo, but I'm not there yet. Anyways, to get the intel working, you need to apply the i915 lvds dual channer patch (I applied it to Linux 3.1.1 from sid): https://github.com/fooblahblah/linux-mainline-efi-lvds/blob/master/lvds_dual_channel.patch You then need to add the following to grub.cfg in your menuentry: # Switch gmux to IGD outb 0x728 1 outb 0x710 2 outb 0x740 2 # Powers down ATI outb 0x750 0 ...and the following as kernel options on the "linux" line: i915.lvds_channels=2 i915.modeset=1 i915.lvds_use_ssc=0 -- mike dentifrice <fl...@po...> |
From: Jerome B. <g62...@re...> - 2011-11-22 09:19:47
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On 22/11/11 06:20, mike dentifrice wrote: > Johannes Graumann said: >>> grub-efi is not yet mature enough to with play with. >> Grrr ... > > Fortunately, that's not true. I am glad to read that some progess has been made, and that grub-efi is getting mature. I got a late 2011 MBP8,2 a few days ago, > and I'm booting in pure EFI mode using the Integrated Graphics Device > (IGD). Some issues remain though, as the radeon KMS is on by default > during the first part of the boot sequence, resulting in a black screen > or a garbled output depending upon the grub options you choose (it's a > problem for me since I need to type the passphrase for my / partition). > > There's a patch though, which I haven't managed to get working yet, see > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26891 (any help appreciatd) > > There's also a patch floating around to enable graphic switching through apple_gmux& vga_swicheroo, but I'm not there yet. > > Anyways, to get the intel working, you need to apply the i915 lvds dual > channer patch (I applied it to Linux 3.1.1 from sid): > https://github.com/fooblahblah/linux-mainline-efi-lvds/blob/master/lvds_dual_channel.patch > > You then need to add the following to grub.cfg in your menuentry: > > # Switch gmux to IGD > outb 0x728 1 > outb 0x710 2 > outb 0x740 2 > # Powers down ATI > outb 0x750 0 > > ...and the following as kernel options on the "linux" line: > > i915.lvds_channels=2 i915.modeset=1 i915.lvds_use_ssc=0 > Jerome |
From: Johannes G. <joh...@we...> - 2011-10-19 07:57:34
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Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Good news: it can be done, even if some part are not yet supported. > > On 17/10/11 22:33, Johannes Graumann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm after the combination of the nice macbbok hardware with my favorite >> OS (usually in its debian testing incarnation), so I purchased a recent >> macbook pro, which turns out to be version 8.2. >> >> I am having a multi-week nightmare with this thing. >> a) refit-based install lead (eventually) to a booting system with video, >> yet cdrom remained inaccessible. > > Have you tried refit with grup-pc ? Yes. My attempts with refit have been using grub-pc. >> b) a grub-efi (pure efi) install fails as grub is inable to rerub-pcad >> the video rom of the Radeon Card and I was unable to get xorg started. > > grub-efi is not yet mature enough to with play with. Grrr ... > >> >> I'm very close to just run debian from within vmware running on OSX, yet >> that really is my last resort. >> >> Did anyone get this to work and can give some pointers? >> >> Thanks, Joh >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >> _______________________________________________ >> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >> Mac...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct |
From: Johannes G. <joh...@we...> - 2011-10-19 08:09:56
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Scott Shawcroft wrote: > I'm planning on getting next macbook pro. (I was tempted to get the > current gen but I can wait a bit.) > > I found this thread on the gentoo forums: > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-891920-highlight-macbook+pro.html > > It may help. Marvellous resource! Thank you - will try to emulate! Joh > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Jerome BENOIT > <g62...@re...>wrote: > >> Good news: it can be done, even if some part are not yet supported. >> >> On 17/10/11 22:33, Johannes Graumann wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I'm after the combination of the nice macbbok hardware with my favorite >> OS >> > (usually in its debian testing incarnation), so I purchased a recent >> macbook >> > pro, which turns out to be version 8.2. >> > >> > I am having a multi-week nightmare with this thing. >> > a) refit-based install lead (eventually) to a booting system with >> > video, >> yet >> > cdrom remained inaccessible. >> >> Have you tried refit with grup-pc ? >> >> > b) a grub-efi (pure efi) install fails as grub is inable to rerub-pcad >> the video >> > rom of the Radeon Card and I was unable to get xorg started. >> >> grub-efi is not yet mature enough to with play with. >> >> > >> > I'm very close to just run debian from within vmware running on OSX, >> > yet that really is my last resort. >> > >> > Did anyone get this to work and can give some pointers? >> > >> > Thanks, Joh >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains >> > a definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mactel-linux-users mailing list >> > Mac...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >> _______________________________________________ >> Mactel-linux-users mailing list >> Mac...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >> |
From: mike d. <fl...@po...> - 2011-11-02 01:38:12
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Hey there, Johannes Graumann said: > b) a grub-efi (pure efi) install fails as grub is inable to read the > video rom of the Radeon Card and I was unable to get xorg started. There's a very long thread on Ubuntuforums about this, and many people have reported success (though it involves de-activating the ATI card and using the intel HD as far as I understood, *and* EFI booting to be able to do so) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695746 I'm very likely to get a MacBookPro8,2 in a few weeks myself, and I want to use Debian testing too. So it'd be great if you kept us (or at least me) posted about your progress, and in case of success, write a Debian specific HOWTO! Thanks in advance for sharing! -- mike dentifrice <fl...@po...> |
From: mike d. <fl...@po...> - 2011-11-02 09:40:41
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Johannes Graumann said: > > There's a very long thread on Ubuntuforums about this, and many > > people have reported success (though it involves de-activating the > > ATI card and using the intel HD as far as I understood, *and* EFI > > booting to be able to do so) : > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695746 > > Thanks for the link, yet I believe that's for 8,1 and there's plenty > of howtos regarding that around. The only one on 8,2 I was able to > find is on the gentoo forums, but I am yet to succeed ... Don't pay attention to the forum thread title. As you must know, forums are generally quite messy compared to mailing-lists, as people tend to deviate from the original subject. I went through quite some of the posts and it's about running GNU/Linux (mostly Ubuntu but not exclusively) on all 8th generation MacBookPro models; I got the impression there was actually way more posts about the 15" & 17" models in this thread since they have more issues (dual graphics, etc.). It's a very long read but there's very interesting info scattered around. PS: if you succeed with Debian you should add a Changelog/HOWTO to the Debian wiki on http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple -- mike dentifrice <fl...@po...> |
From: cyberdork33 <cyb...@gm...> - 2011-11-02 12:05:28
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What would be different for Debian ? Ricky On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:40 AM, mike dentifrice <fl...@po...> wrote: > Johannes Graumann said: >>> There's a very long thread on Ubuntuforums about this, and many >>> people have reported success (though it involves de-activating the >>> ATI card and using the intel HD as far as I understood, *and* EFI >>> booting to be able to do so) : >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695746 >> >> Thanks for the link, yet I believe that's for 8,1 and there's plenty >> of howtos regarding that around. The only one on 8,2 I was able to >> find is on the gentoo forums, but I am yet to succeed ... > > Don't pay attention to the forum thread title. As you must know, forums > are generally quite messy compared to mailing-lists, as people tend to > deviate from the original subject. > > I went through quite some of the posts and it's about running GNU/Linux > (mostly Ubuntu but not exclusively) on all 8th generation MacBookPro > models; I got the impression there was actually way more posts about the > 15" & 17" models in this thread since they have more issues (dual > graphics, etc.). > > It's a very long read but there's very interesting info scattered > around. > > PS: if you succeed with Debian you should add a Changelog/HOWTO to the > Debian wiki on http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple > > -- > mike dentifrice <fl...@po...> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > RSA® Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > Mactel-linux-users mailing list > Mac...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users |
From: mike d. <fl...@po...> - 2011-11-16 05:46:43
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cyberdork33 said: > What would be different for Debian ? Quite a lot of things actually. Patches (to kernel, amongst other things) tend to get integrated very fast in Ubuntu, which has quite a lively Mac user community. Pushing these changes in Debian often takes a long while. Anyways, I want to stick to Debian for a bunch of reasons. Johannes, I'm getting a MacBookPro8,2 in less than a week, and running Debian on it will be top priority, so I'd be interested to know about your progress. -- mike dentifrice <fl...@po...> |
From: mike d. <fl...@po...> - 2011-11-16 09:45:36
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Johannes Graumann said: > > Johannes, I'm getting a MacBookPro8,2 in less than a week, and > > running Debian on it will be top priority, so I'd be interested to > > know about your progress. > > None. Managed to rescue from all my prior experiments and have a refit > install back up and running - which is actually not very difficult to > achieve. However I have a major showstopper and that is that it seems > impossible to have optical drive access when running with refit/bios > emulation. > > I'm likely selling the thing back to IT and go for a Sager notebook. Oh, that's sad to read. Apparently, everything works including the optical drive when booting in EFI mode with some patches. See the last posts from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695746&page=74 Cheers, -- mike dentifrice <fl...@po...> |
From: mike d. <fl...@po...> - 2011-11-28 22:26:13
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Hey there, Johannes Graumann said: > So ... hehe ... when is your howto forthcoming ?;) Here's a first writeup: http://dentifrice.poivron.org/laptops/macbookpro8,2/ I just did it quickly before I forget everything, so some things must be missing, but this should get you started. As for now, I have a working pure EFI system on my MacBookPro8,2 late 2011, except for the following: * sd card reader; * keyboard backlight; * screen backlight (works, needs improvement); Please contribute tips and fixes! -- mike dentifrice <fl...@po...> |