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From: Chris W. <chr...@ap...> - 2010-12-10 03:21:37
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I have been using the tint2 panel as part of CrunchBang Linux. It's has strengths and weaknesses - I'd like to mention the strengths, which I love and which might be worth thinking about as options for LXPanel: - Each windows is represented in the panel by an icon (a small icon, in my setup), and not by a "tab". If I hover over the icon, I get the application title text as hovertext. - Even with many, many windows open, they all squeeze together, rather than disappearing from view. Because they're just icons, I can still make them out. - All desktops are represented in the panel, so I can switch directly to a program in any panel by clicking its icon. - Very elegant, minimalist look. - Even lighter than LXPanel. Some of the problems: - There's no compatible menu , or those that want a docked menu. (Actually there's a way of adding one to the system tray, but it's python and not light.) - It doesn't stay on top - if there's a maximized window in the background, that will hide the panel. Jez mentioned on this list in March that he uses a similar setup with tint2 and Openbox, but in Arch. And I notice that people that use tint2 seem to love it, because of its simplicity and good looks - but it's not suitable for newbies. -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. blogs.appropedia.org community.livejournal.com/appropedia identi.ca/appropedia twitter.com/appropedia |
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From: KDulcimer <kdu...@un...> - 2010-12-10 03:44:49
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On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Chris Watkins <chr...@ap... > wrote: > I have been using the tint2 panel as part of CrunchBang Linux. It's has > strengths and weaknesses - I'd like to mention the strengths, which I love > and which might be worth thinking about as options for LXPanel: > > - Each windows is represented in the panel by an icon (a small icon, in > my setup), and not by a "tab". If I hover over the icon, I get the > application title text as hovertext. > - Even with many, many windows open, they all squeeze together, rather > than disappearing from view. Because they're just icons, I can still make > them out. > - All desktops are represented in the panel, so I can switch directly > to a program in any panel by clicking its icon. > - Very elegant, minimalist look. > - Even lighter than LXPanel. > > Some of the problems: > > - There's no compatible menu , or those that want a docked menu. > (Actually there's a way of adding one to the system tray, but it's python > and not light.) > - It doesn't stay on top - if there's a maximized window in the > background, that will hide the panel. > > > Jez mentioned on this list in March that he uses a similar setup with tint2 > and Openbox, but in Arch. And I notice that people that use tint2 seem to > love it, because of its simplicity and good looks - but it's not suitable > for newbies. > > -- > Chris Watkins I've been using adeskbar. It has a menu and several other plugins. The only problem I really have with it is that it does not show sub-menus. |
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From: Marty J. <mar...@co...> - 2010-12-10 14:16:19
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Your first point should be there, if I understand what you are saying. Select Icons Only and Show Tooltips. We don't have the click to raise in the Pager right now, but I know that is fairly widely implemented. Should look at. If anything there is more pressure to be complete than light. Most of the feedback is of the form why don't you have this Gnome feature yet. As always, please feel free to put your system together from whatever pleases you. On 12/09/2010 10:21 PM, Chris Watkins wrote: > I have been using the tint2 panel as part of CrunchBang Linux. It's has strengths and weaknesses - I'd like to mention the strengths, which I love and which might be worth thinking about as options for LXPanel: > > * Each windows is represented in the panel by an icon (a small icon, in my setup), and not by a "tab". If I hover over the icon, I get the application title text as hovertext. > * Even with many, many windows open, they all squeeze together, rather than disappearing from view. Because they're just icons, I can still make them out. > * All desktops are represented in the panel, so I can switch directly to a program in any panel by clicking its icon. > * Very elegant, minimalist look. > * Even lighter than LXPanel. > > Some of the problems: > > * There's no compatible menu , or those that want a docked menu. (Actually there's a way of adding one to the system tray, but it's python and not light.) > * It doesn't stay on top - if there's a maximized window in the background, that will hide the panel. > > > Jez mentioned on this list in March that he uses a similar setup with tint2 and Openbox, but in Arch. And I notice that people that use tint2 seem to love it, because of its simplicity and good looks - but it's not suitable for newbies. > > -- > Chris Watkins > > Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. > > blogs.appropedia.org <http://blogs.appropedia.org> > community.livejournal.com/appropedia <http://community.livejournal.com/appropedia> > identi.ca/appropedia <http://identi.ca/appropedia> > twitter.com/appropedia <http://twitter.com/appropedia> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-list mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list |
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From: Sergio C. <sec...@gm...> - 2010-12-10 17:04:47
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Yes, one can choose 'Show only icons' and also 'Show windows from all workspaces'. On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Marty Jack <mar...@co...> wrote: > Your first point should be there, if I understand what you are saying. > Select Icons Only and Show Tooltips. > > We don't have the click to raise in the Pager right now, but I know that is > fairly widely implemented. Should look at. > > If anything there is more pressure to be complete than light. Most of the > feedback is of the form why don't you have this Gnome feature yet. > > As always, please feel free to put your system together from whatever > pleases you. > > On 12/09/2010 10:21 PM, Chris Watkins wrote: > > I have been using the tint2 panel as part of CrunchBang Linux. It's has > strengths and weaknesses - I'd like to mention the strengths, which I love > and which might be worth thinking about as options for LXPanel: > > > > * Each windows is represented in the panel by an icon (a small icon, > in my setup), and not by a "tab". If I hover over the icon, I get the > application title text as hovertext. > > * Even with many, many windows open, they all squeeze together, > rather than disappearing from view. Because they're just icons, I can still > make them out. > > * All desktops are represented in the panel, so I can switch directly > to a program in any panel by clicking its icon. > > * Very elegant, minimalist look. > > * Even lighter than LXPanel. > > > > Some of the problems: > > > > * There's no compatible menu , or those that want a docked menu. > (Actually there's a way of adding one to the system tray, but it's python > and not light.) > > * It doesn't stay on top - if there's a maximized window in the > background, that will hide the panel. > > > > > > Jez mentioned on this list in March that he uses a similar setup with > tint2 and Openbox, but in Arch. And I notice that people that use tint2 seem > to love it, because of its simplicity and good looks - but it's not suitable > for newbies. > > > > -- > > Chris Watkins > > > > Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. > > > > blogs.appropedia.org <http://blogs.appropedia.org> > > community.livejournal.com/appropedia < > http://community.livejournal.com/appropedia> > > identi.ca/appropedia <http://identi.ca/appropedia> > > twitter.com/appropedia <http://twitter.com/appropedia> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Lxde-list mailing list > > Lxd...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-list mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list > |
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From: Chris W. <chr...@ap...> - 2010-12-21 06:11:58
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Thanks - I finally had the chance to check these out. It took me a long time to find where to make these changes, but it's now looking really nice. For the record (and I'll add it to the wik): Open panel settings (e.g. right clicking on the "desktops" part of the panel ) -> choose Panel Applets tab -> from the list, choose "Task Bar (Window List)" -> click edit -> to get just the icons against the background of the panel, select both "Icons only" and "Flat buttons" -> "Show tooltips" and "Show windows from all workspaces" also available here. There are still a few small advantages I see in tint2 (or maybe I haven't found the LXPanel settings yet) but overall LXPanel is now my favorite panel. For the record, tint2 still wins on these points: - It's *slightly* better looking, IMO. - Each desktop has its own section on the task bar, rather than the icons being mixed together. - I can have the date in tiny font under the time. That's how it's set up on CrunchBang & I like it. - I can change icon size in tint2. (In LXPanel, I shrink the panel height, but the icons get cut off at the knees.) As for being lighter, Marty is right - completeness is more important, since LXPanel is already light. Thanks for your fantastic work! Chris On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 00:04, Sergio Cipolla <sec...@gm...> wrote: > Yes, one can choose 'Show only icons' and also 'Show windows from all > workspaces'. > > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Marty Jack <mar...@co...> wrote: > >> Your first point should be there, if I understand what you are saying. >> Select Icons Only and Show Tooltips. >> >> We don't have the click to raise in the Pager right now, but I know that >> is fairly widely implemented. Should look at. >> >> If anything there is more pressure to be complete than light. Most of the >> feedback is of the form why don't you have this Gnome feature yet. >> >> As always, please feel free to put your system together from whatever >> pleases you. >> >> On 12/09/2010 10:21 PM, Chris Watkins wrote: >> > I have been using the tint2 panel as part of CrunchBang Linux. It's has >> strengths and weaknesses - I'd like to mention the strengths, which I love >> and which might be worth thinking about as options for LXPanel: >> > >> > * Each windows is represented in the panel by an icon (a small icon, >> in my setup), and not by a "tab". If I hover over the icon, I get the >> application title text as hovertext. >> > * Even with many, many windows open, they all squeeze together, >> rather than disappearing from view. Because they're just icons, I can still >> make them out. >> > * All desktops are represented in the panel, so I can switch >> directly to a program in any panel by clicking its icon. >> > * Very elegant, minimalist look. >> > * Even lighter than LXPanel. >> > >> > Some of the problems: >> > >> > * There's no compatible menu , or those that want a docked menu. >> (Actually there's a way of adding one to the system tray, but it's python >> and not light.) >> > * It doesn't stay on top - if there's a maximized window in the >> background, that will hide the panel. >> > >> > >> > Jez mentioned on this list in March that he uses a similar setup with >> tint2 and Openbox, but in Arch. And I notice that people that use tint2 seem >> to love it, because of its simplicity and good looks - but it's not suitable >> for newbies. >> > >> > -- >> > Chris Watkins >> > >> > Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. >> > >> > blogs.appropedia.org <http://blogs.appropedia.org> >> > community.livejournal.com/appropedia < >> http://community.livejournal.com/appropedia> >> > identi.ca/appropedia <http://identi.ca/appropedia> >> > twitter.com/appropedia <http://twitter.com/appropedia> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Lxde-list mailing list >> > Lxd...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Lxde-list mailing list >> Lxd...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for > PL/SQL, > new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, > OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-list mailing list > Lxd...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list > > -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. blogs.appropedia.org community.livejournal.com/appropedia identi.ca/appropedia twitter.com/appropedia |
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From: Chris W. <chr...@ap...> - 2010-12-21 07:19:26
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Oops... Just noticed icon size in the most obvious place, on the Geometry tab of Panel Settings. Sorry! It would be cool if icon size could change automatically with panel height - it would be easier for non-geeks to tweak. But it's fine for me. Thanks again. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 13:11, Chris Watkins <chr...@ap...>wrote: > tint2 still wins on these points: > > > - I can change icon size in tint2. (In LXPanel, I shrink the panel > height, but the icons get cut off at the knees.) > > -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. blogs.appropedia.org community.livejournal.com/appropedia identi.ca/appropedia twitter.com/appropedia |
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From: Marty J. <mar...@co...> - 2010-12-21 08:16:22
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There are at least three reasons icon size does not change automatically with panel height. The separate control was added fairly late in the development of 0.5.0. It doesn't work at all for vertical panels that are wide. You need an independent control on how tall the plugin can be. It is helpful to have the independent control so that, for example, you can have a horizontal panel that is two icons tall, and your launchbar buttons and taskbar buttons will stack vertically as well as horizontally. It is very helpful to people who don't see well to be able to make the icons the size that they need independent of any other geometry. On 12/21/2010 02:18 AM, Chris Watkins wrote: > Oops... Just noticed icon size in the most obvious place, on the Geometry tab of Panel Settings. Sorry! > > It would be cool if icon size could change automatically with panel height - it would be easier for non-geeks to tweak. But it's fine for me. > > Thanks again. > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 13:11, Chris Watkins <chr...@ap... <mailto:chr...@ap...>> wrote: > > tint2 still wins on these points: > > > > * I can change icon size in tint2. (In LXPanel, I shrink the panel height, but the icons get cut off at the knees.) > > > > > -- > Chris Watkins > > Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. > > blogs.appropedia.org <http://blogs.appropedia.org> > community.livejournal.com/appropedia <http://community.livejournal.com/appropedia> > identi.ca/appropedia <http://identi.ca/appropedia> > twitter.com/appropedia <http://twitter.com/appropedia> |
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From: Martin B. / b. <br...@bs...> - 2010-12-21 10:09:50
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-12-21 07:11, Chris Watkins wrote: > For the record, tint2 still wins on these points: > - Each desktop has its own section on the task bar, rather than the icons > being mixed together. This feature sounds really interesting. I am among the people that doesn't use that part of the panel but I imagine how that would be a really nice feature with a modern wiiiiiiiiide screen and many virtual desktops. - -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0QfOUACgkQRnDBymnxg5qBpACeMnNbZR5e+csmvpdGDtEB2kir FnUAmwXTh8dFZP+MwsGYnqcTKrHAWUoi =pVNQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Chris W. <chr...@ap...> - 2010-12-21 10:43:15
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 17:09, Martin Bagge / brother <br...@bs...>wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2010-12-21 07:11, Chris Watkins wrote: > > For the record, tint2 still wins on these points: > > - Each desktop has its own section on the task bar, rather than the > icons > > being mixed together. > > This feature sounds really interesting. > I am among the people that doesn't use that part of the panel but I > imagine how that would be a really nice feature with a modern > wiiiiiiiiide screen and many virtual desktops. > I love it - and with icons, it's still nice on a not-so-wide screen (laptop, and LXPanel at 80% of screen width) :-). I almost never used multiple desktops until I started using tint2, with this feature. > - -- > brother > http://sis.bthstudent.se > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk0QfOUACgkQRnDBymnxg5qBpACeMnNbZR5e+csmvpdGDtEB2kir > FnUAmwXTh8dFZP+MwsGYnqcTKrHAWUoi > =pVNQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- Chris Watkins Appropedia.org - Sharing knowledge to build rich, sustainable lives. blogs.appropedia.org community.livejournal.com/appropedia identi.ca/appropedia twitter.com/appropedia |
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