From: Sean McGrath <sean.mcgrath@pr...> - 2006-03-28 17:43:40
>I was hoping that Frank, Sean, Sameul, Oti and gang would have been
>able to give some more concrete feed back....they are the leadership
>of thiis project no?
My lack of contribution to the Jython effort compared to the endless hours (weeks!) it has saved me in my day-job is a constant source of embarrassment for me.
Somebody recently made the point that Jython gets a sort of commercial twang by virtue of its association with Java. I think this is true and can be leveraged. If we could just get a Sun or IBM or a BEA or a Nokia to donate - not cash - but developer time - to Jython I think that would be a great way forward.
We are a small company compared to the Sun's, IBM's, BEA's or Nokia's of this world but I would hope that we too would be able to contribute along these lines. To make such a contribution of paid-for developer time, I need to make a case and answer the inevitable question "who else is involved and helping out in this way?". I would love to answer with some well known company names.
I guess what I'm saying is that what Jython badly needs is one or two high-visibility donors of developer time. Donors sufficiently well-known to attract other donors of similar size and smaller.
My 2 Cents,
From: Walter Chang <chang.walter@gm...> - 2006-03-28 23:27:40
these are all excellent leads for vendor sponsership funding we can
follow up with once we have established a good game plan that
acurrately reflects our resouces...
My company is a big customer of big names you guys just mentioned :)
...I'm sure we could see if something could be worked out.
some big projects like spring framework and apache tomcat are part of
our fimwide OSS stack so we are very actively involved with companies
like jboss and interface 21....
We could even implore some of those guys to help out...but we need a
plan in granular detail before they'll take jython seriously...
May I suggest someing CMMi'sh (waterfall perhaps?? ) or even Scrum??
(my personal favorite)
Simplicity--the art of maximizing the amount
of work not done--is essential.
From: Frank Wierzbicki <fwierzbicki@gm...> - 2006-03-28 20:25:10
> Somebody recently made the point that Jython gets a sort of commercial tw=
ang by virtue of its association with Java. I think this is true and can be=
leveraged. If we could just get a Sun or IBM or a BEA or a Nokia to donate=
- not cash - but developer time - to Jython I think that would be a great =
Although not as big as the others, RedHat (I believe) has already done
some work on the GCJ side to make the GCJ/Classpath stack more
friendly to Jython 2.1. They might be willing to lend some developer
time to Jython itself, who knows?