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DAV to be disabled June 30 2008

2008-04-22
2013-04-08
  • uncledonald
    uncledonald
    2008-04-22

    After many years of using hotway and hotsmtp, I got a message from MS saying:

    ###message###

       Dear Microsoft Outlook Express customer,

       Thank you for using Microsoft� Outlook� Express. Our information
       indicates that you use Outlook Express to access a Windows Live(TM)
       Hotmail� e-mail account via a protocol called DAV (Distributed
       Authoring and Versioning protocol). DAV, like POP3 or IMAP, is the way
       that a mail client communicates with a web-based mail server.

       As a valued customer, we want to provide advanced notice that as of
       June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no
       longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox via Outlook Express. As an
       alternative, we recommend that you download Windows Live Mail, a free
       desktop e-mail client that has the familiarity of Outlook Express and
       much more. This next generation of free e-mail software will allow you
       to easily manage multiple e-mail accounts--including Windows Live
       Hotmail, plus other e-mail accounts that support POP3/IMAP. Better yet,
       Windows Live Mail integrates well with other Windows Live services, and
       downloads in minutes. After you provide your user name and password,
       you will automatically be linked to your Hotmail account, providing
       continued access to your email and contacts.

       We encourage you to download Windows Live Mail at
       [1]http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview.

       And, to make your transition smoother, we've provided answers to
       frequently asked questions below.

       Again, thank you for your use of Outlook Express and we are confident
       that you'll be just as delighted with the new Windows Live Mail.

       Your Windows Live Mail team

       Frequently asked questions:

       Why are we disabling DAV?

       DAV is a legacy protocol that is not well suited for client access to
       large inboxes. Over time, as we've provided more e-mail storage to our
       users--and now offer 5GB inboxes for free--a more efficient access
       protocol is needed.

       What are we replacing DAV with?

       We have developed a new, much more efficient protocol called DeltaSynch
       that is far superior to DAV especially for large e-mail inboxes. It
       enables email clients to only download changes since the last time the
       client polled the email server for changes. This is much more efficient
       and high performing than having to download all the headers in every
       folder as is the case with DAV.

       Is DeltaSynch compatible with Outlook Express?

       The new protocol unfortunately is NOT supported by Outlook Express and
       support would require too many changes to the Outlook Express software.

       Is there a different or new mail client I can try that uses DeltaSynch?

       Microsoft is providing Windows Live Mail, a free e-mail client that has
       the familiarity of Outlook Express and much more. This free, next
       generation email client  enables users to easily manage multiple e-mail
       accounts including Windows Live Hotmail and other e-mail accounts that
       support POP3/IMAP. Windows Live Mail also integrates well with other
       Windows Live services, is optimized to work with Windows Live Hotmail,
       and offers:
         * Offline mail
         * Windows Live Hotmail account aggregation for those users with
           multiple Hotmail accounts
         * Account aggregation for POP and IMAP mail accounts
         * Rich photo-sharing capabilities
         * Advanced search via integration with Desktop Search
         * Safety tools (Anti-Virus scanning, anti-phishing, anti-spam
           features across aggregated accounts for customers who do not have
           an Anti-Virus product)
         * Integration with Windows Live services including Windows Live
           Spaces
         * RSS (Real Simple Syndication) feed aggregation
         * Ability to send SMS (short message service) text to a mobile phone
           from Windows Live Mail

       Where can I download the new Windows Live Mail client?

       You can download the new client at
       [2]http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview.
       Microsoft respects your privacy. To learn more, please read our online
       [3]Privacy Statement.

       Microsoft Corporation, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, WA 98052
       [Microsoft.gif]

       References

       1. http://microsoft.msn.com/Key=11872.Tv8P.C.CY.J8dtgH
       2. http://microsoft.msn.com/Key=11872.Tv8P.C.CY.J8dtgH
       3. http://microsoft.msn.com/Key=11872.Tv8P.D.CY.0JFXc

    ####end of message####

    My thoughts:

    1. If this doesn't get worked around, then it is time to move to another email address.
    2. And use gotmail to pull off mail from the legacy hotmail account.
    3. Though, I wonder if the lwp technique of gotmail can be used for sending too?

    PJ

     
    • Polo Talnir
      Polo Talnir
      2008-05-02

      This project seems to be dead.
      No updates in 4 years. I think we are on our own with Micro$oft's
      decision to drop support of DAV.
      A Windoze product, Hotpopper, also seems not to be maintained.
      It is equivalent to hotway hotsmtp in Windoze.
      Hope the hotway developers have some time to add support for DeltaSync,
      perhaps also on Windowz.
      -TioP

       
      • FYI, another project that's affected is Blue HTTP mail proxy.  I've been using it for a few years.  http://bhttpmail.sourceforge.net/

        It's maintained, but support for DeltaSync is also not coming anytime soon.

         
    • Polo Talnir
      Polo Talnir
      2008-05-10

      Thanks for the comment. Following the link, then the link to DeltaSynch in WikiPedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync, we find that just a couple of days ago, MS graciously decided to extend support of WebDAV beyond the previously announced deadline, without setting a new one. We are "saved" for now. But it would be great if any of these projects (hotway, blueHttp or even the shareware products, hotmail popper, e.g. - but this seems to be a dead product too) supported the new protocol. Even better would be if MS opted to support standard email protocols for the free accounts, as other Web email providers do.
      Regards,
      -TioP

       
    • Polo Talnir
      Polo Talnir
      2008-05-10

      Thanks for the comment. Following the link, then the link to DeltaSynch in WikiPedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync , we find that just a couple of days ago, MS graciously decided to extend support of WebDAV beyond the previously announced deadline, without setting a new one. We are "saved" for now. But it would be great if any of these projects (hotway, blueHttp or even the shareware products, hotmail popper, e.g. - but this seems to be a dead product too) supported the new protocol. Even better would be if MS opted to support standard email protocols for the free accounts, as other Web email providers do.
      Regards,
      -TioP