From: Julian P. <jpi...@gm...> - 2006-02-21 03:44:44
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can some one tell me the exact way these computers work I sorta don't know thanks Julian Pillars CEO, DeepBeige Technologies julianpillars.com/ jpi...@gm... |
From: Dave H. <dhy...@gm...> - 2006-02-21 04:36:26
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Hi Julian, On 2/20/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > can some one tell me the exact way these computers work > > I sorta don't know I'm not quite sure how to respond to this. Here's a web page that describes how computers work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer or the slightly more correct http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcontroller The gumstix is pretty much like any other computer. Perhaps you could be a bit more specific? -- Dave Hylands Vancouver, BC, Canada http://www.DaveHylands.com/ |
From: Julian P. <jpi...@gm...> - 2006-02-21 11:13:31
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like, how is it possible to run a computer on a board like that, that has a 200 or 400MHz?, I mean its amazing, but Im cuirous to figure out how it's done,, plus I have a question pertaining to the accessory, "Thumbstix"?, does the enable to user of the Gumstix to use it has a USB pen drive (i.e. a San Disk Cruiser Mini) or what? On 2/20/06, Dave Hylands <dhy...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Julian, > > On 2/20/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > > can some one tell me the exact way these computers work > > > > I sorta don't know > > I'm not quite sure how to respond to this. Here's a web page that > describes how computers work: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer or the slightly more correct > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcontroller > > The gumstix is pretty much like any other computer. Perhaps you could > be a bit more specific? > > -- > Dave Hylands > Vancouver, BC, Canada > http://www.DaveHylands.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > -- Julian Pillars CEO, DeepBeige Technologies julianpillars.com/ jpi...@gm... |
From: Nik M. <nm...@ra...> - 2006-02-21 13:03:01
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On 2/21/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > like, how is it possible to run a computer on a board like that, that > has a 200 or 400MHz?, Julian, these computers are just like your desktop PC. They have flash memory, ram, a CPU, the venerable Intel PXA255. The frequency they run at is a function of the manufacturing process. The 200 MHz variants are the same chip as a 400 MHz chip, but during testing by Intel, didn't meet the specs for a 400 MHz chip. The CCRR (Core Clock Configuration Register) sets the cpu's clock speed. The Makefile for the kernel from gumstix allows one to set the clock speed from 200 to 400 and vice versa. It has been said on the list that a 200MHz cpu CAN run at 400 MHz, but it will be out of spec and may crash. The intel XCALE docs may help you understand the workings of the cpu itself: http://www.intel.com/design/pca/products/pxa255/techdocs.htm I mean its amazing, but Im cuirous to figure out > how it's done,, plus I have a question pertaining to the accessory, > "Thumbstix"?, does the enable to user of the Gumstix to use it has a > USB pen drive (i.e. a San Disk Cruiser Mini) or what? > Not sure about the Thumbstix, the gumstix site has been redesigned, and there don't seem to be many descriptive docs regardsing the expansion boards anymore. > On 2/20/06, Dave Hylands <dhy...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi Julian, > > > > On 2/20/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > > > can some one tell me the exact way these computers work > > > > > > I sorta don't know > > > > I'm not quite sure how to respond to this. Here's a web page that > > describes how computers work: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer or the slightly more correct > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcontroller > > > > The gumstix is pretty much like any other computer. Perhaps you could > > be a bit more specific? > > > > -- > > Dave Hylands > > Vancouver, BC, Canada > > http://www.DaveHylands.com/ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log = files > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > gumstix-users mailing list > > gum...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > > -- > Julian Pillars > CEO, DeepBeige Technologies > julianpillars.com/ > jpi...@gm... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: Julian P. <jpi...@gm...> - 2006-02-21 20:53:41
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awesome,.. now, how do I access it,, I know you have to use either a Null-Modem cable or a USB one but is there like a web interface? Tel-Net? On 2/21/06, Nik Martin <nm...@ra...> wrote: > On 2/21/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > > like, how is it possible to run a computer on a board like that, that > > has a 200 or 400MHz?, > Julian, these computers are just like your desktop PC. They have > flash memory, ram, a CPU, the venerable Intel PXA255. The frequency > they run at is a function of the manufacturing process. The 200 MHz > variants are the same chip as a 400 MHz chip, but during testing by > Intel, didn't meet the specs for a 400 MHz chip. The CCRR (Core Clock > Configuration Register) sets the cpu's clock speed. The Makefile for > the kernel from gumstix allows one to set the clock speed from 200 to > 400 and vice versa. It has been said on the list that a 200MHz cpu > CAN run at 400 MHz, but it will be out of spec and may crash. The > intel XCALE docs may help you understand the workings of the cpu > itself: > http://www.intel.com/design/pca/products/pxa255/techdocs.htm > I mean its amazing, but Im cuirous to figure out > > how it's done,, plus I have a question pertaining to the accessory, > > "Thumbstix"?, does the enable to user of the Gumstix to use it has a > > USB pen drive (i.e. a San Disk Cruiser Mini) or what? > > > Not sure about the Thumbstix, the gumstix site has been redesigned, > and there don't seem to be many descriptive docs regardsing the > expansion boards anymore. > > > On 2/20/06, Dave Hylands <dhy...@gm...> wrote: > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > On 2/20/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > > > > can some one tell me the exact way these computers work > > > > > > > > I sorta don't know > > > > > > I'm not quite sure how to respond to this. Here's a web page that > > > describes how computers work: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer or the slightly more correct > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcontroller > > > > > > The gumstix is pretty much like any other computer. Perhaps you could > > > be a bit more specific? > > > > > > -- > > > Dave Hylands > > > Vancouver, BC, Canada > > > http://www.DaveHylands.com/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through lo= g > files > > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUN= K! > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gumstix-users mailing list > > > gum...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > > > > > > -- > > Julian Pillars > > CEO, DeepBeige Technologies > > julianpillars.com/ > > jpi...@gm... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > gumstix-users mailing list > > gum...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > -- Julian Pillars CEO, DeepBeige Technologies julianpillars.com/ jpi...@gm... |
From: Nik M. <add...@gm...> - 2006-02-21 23:40:57
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On 2/21/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > awesome,.. now, how do I access it,, I know you have to use either a > Null-Modem cable or a USB one but is there like a web interface? > Tel-Net? The first method is serial, with a tweener baord. That is the easiest and fastest way to connect, using a null modem cable. You can then geta network board, enable the ethernet port, put it on your network, reboot it, and ssh to it, which is my preferred way to connect, since it's fast and easy. Nik > > On 2/21/06, Nik Martin <nm...@ra...> wrote: > > On 2/21/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > > > like, how is it possible to run a computer on a board like that, that > > > has a 200 or 400MHz?, > > Julian, these computers are just like your desktop PC. They have > > flash memory, ram, a CPU, the venerable Intel PXA255. The frequency > > they run at is a function of the manufacturing process. The 200 MHz > > variants are the same chip as a 400 MHz chip, but during testing by > > Intel, didn't meet the specs for a 400 MHz chip. The CCRR (Core Clock > > Configuration Register) sets the cpu's clock speed. The Makefile for > > the kernel from gumstix allows one to set the clock speed from 200 to > > 400 and vice versa. It has been said on the list that a 200MHz cpu > > CAN run at 400 MHz, but it will be out of spec and may crash. The > > intel XCALE docs may help you understand the workings of the cpu > > itself: > > http://www.intel.com/design/pca/products/pxa255/techdocs.htm > > I mean its amazing, but Im cuirous to figure out > > > how it's done,, plus I have a question pertaining to the accessory, > > > "Thumbstix"?, does the enable to user of the Gumstix to use it has a > > > USB pen drive (i.e. a San Disk Cruiser Mini) or what? > > > > > Not sure about the Thumbstix, the gumstix site has been redesigned, > > and there don't seem to be many descriptive docs regardsing the > > expansion boards anymore. > > > > > On 2/20/06, Dave Hylands <dhy...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Hi Julian, > > > > > > > > On 2/20/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > can some one tell me the exact way these computers work > > > > > > > > > > I sorta don't know > > > > > > > > I'm not quite sure how to respond to this. Here's a web page that > > > > describes how computers work: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer or the slightly more correct > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcontroller > > > > > > > > The gumstix is pretty much like any other computer. Perhaps you cou= ld > > > > be a bit more specific? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dave Hylands > > > > Vancouver, BC, Canada > > > > http://www.DaveHylands.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through = log > > files > > > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that make= s > > > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPL= UNK! > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=1216= 42 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > gumstix-users mailing list > > > > gum...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Julian Pillars > > > CEO, DeepBeige Technologies > > > julianpillars.com/ > > > jpi...@gm... > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through lo= g > > files > > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUN= K! > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gumstix-users mailing list > > > gum...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log = files > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > gumstix-users mailing list > > gum...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > > -- > Julian Pillars > CEO, DeepBeige Technologies > julianpillars.com/ > jpi...@gm... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: Dave H. <dhy...@gm...> - 2006-02-21 21:09:49
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Hi Julian, On 2/21/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > awesome,.. now, how do I access it,, I know you have to use either a > Null-Modem cable or a USB one but is there like a web interface? > Tel-Net? It depends on what adapters you have attached. The available options that I'm aware of are: - serial - ssh over bluetooth, usb, ethernet, or wifi - web browser over bluetooth, usb, ethernet, or wifi - you could install telnet if you really wanted to. In the not fully supported, but possible to do with some work category: Some people connect LCDs, and you could even connect us a keyboard, or use a touchscreen. You can probably connect just about any other input device you like with the appropriate circuitry. -- Dave Hylands Vancouver, BC, Canada http://www.DaveHylands.com/ |
From: Julian P. <jpi...@gm...> - 2006-02-21 21:54:20
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sweet., thanks in advance On 2/21/06, Dave Hylands <dhy...@gm...> wrote: > Hi Julian, > > On 2/21/06, Julian Pillars <jpi...@gm...> wrote: > > awesome,.. now, how do I access it,, I know you have to use either a > > Null-Modem cable or a USB one but is there like a web interface? > > Tel-Net? > > It depends on what adapters you have attached. The available options > that I'm aware of are: > - serial > - ssh over bluetooth, usb, ethernet, or wifi > - web browser over bluetooth, usb, ethernet, or wifi > - you could install telnet if you really wanted to. > > In the not fully supported, but possible to do with some work category: > Some people connect LCDs, and you could even connect us a keyboard, or > use a touchscreen. You can probably connect just about any other input > device you like with the appropriate circuitry. > > -- > Dave Hylands > Vancouver, BC, Canada > http://www.DaveHylands.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log fi= les > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=103432&bid#0486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > -- Julian Pillars CEO, DeepBeige Technologies julianpillars.com/ jpi...@gm... |