From: Tim N. <ce...@gm...> - 2007-07-12 03:46:27
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I just saw the article ( http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5947466557.html ) on the Goliath modules.. I am happily looking forward to obtaining one when they go on-sale July 16th... if thats when it will happen (according to the article). Do you know how long before the display module will be available to purchase with it? Also, Is there any plan to build a power module to utilize a battery for a phone concept? Thus Battery + Power Module + WifiStix-USD + Verdex-BT + Goliath + Display + GPS would encompass everything I could want in a custom phone design (minus the case which I will build). This is great news! -- Tim |
From: Gordon K. <go...@gu...> - 2007-07-12 15:50:54
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This is the screen. More specs will be published when we're allowed to do so. <http://www.samsung.com/global/business/lcdpanel/productInfo.do?upper_fmly_id=604&fmly_id=613&partnum=LTE430WQ> The Goliath(tm) boards encompass the charger,display and GPS as well so what you're suggesting would really be, I think, Battery + ( Goliath + Display) + verdexBT + wifistix-uSD More to come... Gordon > I just saw the article ( > http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5947466557.html ) on the Goliath > modules.. I am happily looking forward to obtaining one when they go > on-sale July 16th... if thats when it will happen (according to the > article). Do you know how long before the display module will be > available to purchase with it? > > Also, Is there any plan to build a power module to utilize a battery > for a phone concept? Thus Battery + Power Module + WifiStix-USD + > Verdex-BT + Goliath + Display + GPS would encompass everything I > could want in a custom phone design (minus the case which I will build). > > This is great news! > > -- Tim > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: Craig H. <cr...@gu...> - 2007-07-12 20:26:39
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So I just found this on the AT&T business page. Seems like they do have a fair few options for data-only plans: <http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/popup/dataconnect-comp- table.jsp> Looks like you can get a 5MB/mth plan for $9.99; Unlimited data-only is $19.99 though both these plans carry this cryptic footnote: Prices reflect a $5/month discount for voice and require eligible wireless voice plan be activated and maintained on the same device or, for LaptopConnect Cards, the same account. (Limited to one discounted price per eligible voice plan; separate voice and devices may be required.) No idea what that means. Probably means "yeah, sorry you can't actually do that". It's not clear if the "LaptopConnect" plans, which seem to be the cheapest when not including a separate voice plan, are possible to purchase/use without an actual LaptopConnect card... Under "personal" instead of "business" plans, there appear to be even more options to choose from. T-mobile (the other US GSM operator) has these "internet-only" plans: <http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/Default.aspx? plancategory=7#Internet+Only> $50 seems a little steep for unlimited internet-only, but on the other hand, there are no complex footnotes to figure out here -- it looks like you could just get a SIM card from T-mobile to plug into a Goliath. There are some other options out there, but it's hard to gauge how mature any of them are. We'll continue working on exploring this to provide better answers for our customers, C On Jul 12, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Randall Nortman wrote: > Has pricing on these boards been announced yet? Did I just miss it? > > And also, does anybody know anything about cheap GPRS service plans > for low data volume, high latency applications? My company has a > bunch of little devices out in the field that need to talk back to > home base, and we'd love to use GPRS/EDGE to do it, but the plans from > the major carriers are too expensive for our requirements -- we don't > send much data, and we'd be happy to queue all the data up for > transmission during off-peak hours when the network is underutilized > anyway. Seems like we ought to be able to get that for less than > $5/month/device if we have enough devices out there. Anybody have any > idea who I'd talk to do get info on service plans like that? I > suspect a lot of gumstix/goliath users might have similar > requirements. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Lee J. <lee...@gl...> - 2007-07-12 21:33:13
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Local providers are typically cheaper but you cannot use them che= aply for roaming. -----Original Message----- From: gum...@li... [mailto:gumstix= -us...@li...] On Behalf Of Craig Hughes Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:27 PM To: General mailing list for gumstix users. Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Goliath pricing, and service plans So I just found this on the AT&T business page. Seems like they=20= do have a fair few options for data-only plans: <http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/popup/dataconnect-com= p- table.jsp> Looks like you can get a 5MB/mth plan for $9.99; Unlimited data-o= nly is $19.99 though both these plans carry this cryptic footnote: Prices reflect a $5/month discount for voice and require eligible= wireless voice plan be activated and maintained on the same devic= e or, for LaptopConnect Cards, the same account. (Limited to one discounted price per eligible voice plan; separate voice and devi= ces may be required.) No idea what that means. Probably means "yeah, sorry you can't =20= actually do that". It's not clear if the "LaptopConnect" plans,=20= which seem to be the cheapest when not including a separate voice= plan, are possible to purchase/use without an actual LaptopConnec= t card... Under "personal" instead of "business" plans, there appear to be=20= even more options to choose from. T-mobile (the other US GSM operator) has these "internet-only" pl= ans: <http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/Default.aspx? plancategory=3D7#Internet+Only> $50 seems a little steep for unlimited internet-only, but on the=20= other hand, there are no complex footnotes to figure out here --=20= it looks like you could just get a SIM card from T-mobile to plug in= to a Goliath. There are some other options out there, but it's hard to gauge ho= w mature any of them are. We'll continue working on exploring this= to provide better answers for our customers, C On Jul 12, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Randall Nortman wrote: > Has pricing on these boards been announced yet? Did I just mis= s it? > > And also, does anybody know anything about cheap GPRS service p= lans > for low data volume, high latency applications? My company has= a > bunch of little devices out in the field that need to talk back= to > home base, and we'd love to use GPRS/EDGE to do it, but the pla= ns from > the major carriers are too expensive for our requirements -- we= don't > send much data, and we'd be happy to queue all the data up for > transmission during off-peak hours when the network is underuti= lized > anyway. Seems like we ought to be able to get that for less th= an > $5/month/device if we have enough devices out there. Anybody h= ave any > idea who I'd talk to do get info on service plans like that? I= > suspect a lot of gumstix/goliath users might have similar > requirements. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and ta= ke > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.= > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users -----------------------------------------------------------------= -------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take= control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ gumstix-users mailing list gum...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Jason <gu...@la...> - 2007-07-13 12:36:25
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Craig Hughes wrote: > So I just found this on the AT&T business page. Seems like they do > have a fair few options for data-only plans: > > <http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/popup/dataconnect-comp-table.jsp> > > Looks like you can get a 5MB/mth plan for $9.99; Unlimited data-only > is $19.99 though both these plans carry this cryptic footnote: At the bottom on the same page, it lists something called "Pooled Data Connect" with 5MB/month for $22.99. Is it too much to hope that this means, say, 5 SIM cards on one account for less than $30/month? :-) Jason. |
From: Tim N. <ce...@gm...> - 2007-07-12 16:21:24
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Awesome. So the only thing missing is really just the battery. The charging circuit is already built in. From the article I read it seemed that the Goliath had a separate GPS module which could be added. If they are together then that's all the better. Sweet. --Tim On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 9:01, Gordon Kruberg wrote: > This is the screen. More specs will be published when we're allowed to > do so. > <http://www.samsung.com/global/business/lcdpanel/productInfo.do?upper_fmly_id=604&fmly_id=613&partnum=LTE430WQ> > > The Goliath(tm) boards encompass the charger,display and GPS as well so > what you're suggesting would really be, I think, > Battery + ( Goliath + Display) + verdexBT + wifistix-uSD > > More to come... > > Gordon > > >> I just saw the article ( >> http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5947466557.html ) on the Goliath >> modules.. I am happily looking forward to obtaining one when they go >> on-sale July 16th... if thats when it will happen (according to the >> article). Do you know how long before the display module will be >> available to purchase with it? >> >> Also, Is there any plan to build a power module to utilize a battery >> for a phone concept? Thus Battery + Power Module + WifiStix-USD + >> Verdex-BT + Goliath + Display + GPS would encompass everything I >> could want in a custom phone design (minus the case which I will >> build). >> >> This is great news! >> >> -- Tim >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gumstix-users mailing list >> gum...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users --Tim |
From: Craig H. <cr...@gu...> - 2007-07-12 18:11:01
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There are 2 versions of Goliath: with vs without integrated GPS module. If there is one, it's on the board. C On Jul 12, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Tim Newsom wrote: > Awesome. So the only thing missing is really just the battery. The > charging circuit is already built in. > > From the article I read it seemed that the Goliath had a separate GPS > module which could be added. > If they are together then that's all the better. > > Sweet. > > --Tim > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 9:01, Gordon Kruberg wrote: >> This is the screen. More specs will be published when we're >> allowed to >> do so. >> <http://www.samsung.com/global/business/lcdpanel/productInfo.do? >> upper_fmly_id=604&fmly_id=613&partnum=LTE430WQ> >> >> The Goliath(tm) boards encompass the charger,display and GPS as >> well so >> what you're suggesting would really be, I think, >> Battery + ( Goliath + Display) + verdexBT + wifistix-uSD >> >> More to come... >> >> Gordon >> >> >>> I just saw the article ( >>> http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5947466557.html ) on the Goliath >>> modules.. I am happily looking forward to obtaining one when >>> they go >>> on-sale July 16th... if thats when it will happen (according to the >>> article). Do you know how long before the display module will be >>> available to purchase with it? >>> >>> Also, Is there any plan to build a power module to utilize a >>> battery >>> for a phone concept? Thus Battery + Power Module + WifiStix-USD + >>> Verdex-BT + Goliath + Display + GPS would encompass everything I >>> could want in a custom phone design (minus the case which I will >>> build). >>> >>> This is great news! >>> >>> -- Tim >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >>> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >>> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >>> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gumstix-users mailing list >>> gum...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> _______________________________________________ >> gumstix-users mailing list >> gum...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > --Tim > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users |
From: Randall N. <rng...@wo...> - 2007-07-12 18:56:40
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Has pricing on these boards been announced yet? Did I just miss it? And also, does anybody know anything about cheap GPRS service plans for low data volume, high latency applications? My company has a bunch of little devices out in the field that need to talk back to home base, and we'd love to use GPRS/EDGE to do it, but the plans from the major carriers are too expensive for our requirements -- we don't send much data, and we'd be happy to queue all the data up for transmission during off-peak hours when the network is underutilized anyway. Seems like we ought to be able to get that for less than $5/month/device if we have enough devices out there. Anybody have any idea who I'd talk to do get info on service plans like that? I suspect a lot of gumstix/goliath users might have similar requirements. |
From: Craig H. <cr...@gu...> - 2007-07-12 20:03:49
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On Jul 12, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Randall Nortman wrote: > Has pricing on these boards been announced yet? Did I just miss it? Pricing coming soon, when the boards go on sale. > And also, does anybody know anything about cheap GPRS service plans > for low data volume, high latency applications? My company has a > bunch of little devices out in the field that need to talk back to > home base, and we'd love to use GPRS/EDGE to do it, but the plans from > the major carriers are too expensive for our requirements -- we don't > send much data, and we'd be happy to queue all the data up for > transmission during off-peak hours when the network is underutilized > anyway. Seems like we ought to be able to get that for less than > $5/month/device if we have enough devices out there. Anybody have any > idea who I'd talk to do get info on service plans like that? I > suspect a lot of gumstix/goliath users might have similar > requirements. We're working on trying to figure this out in a some rational way, which doesn't involve us paying a carrier $500k for the privilege of talking to them. Currently, you will need to get your own GSM/GPRS/ EDGE plan from some carrier, then plug the SIM card into our board. We realize very well that this is far from ideal, but the incumbent carriers don't seem to want to make it easy to get new customers through "distributors" like us -- they really don't want us to be able to sell activated SIM cards without jumping through several gajillion hoops involving hundreds of thousands, or even millions of dollars in setup "fees" plus as long as 18-24 months of waiting for approval. If anyone on the list has any experience/advice on what the best way is to get that kind of $5-20/mth/device type plan for essentially "data only, no voice" plan, we'd love to know about it. Even if the thing is latency-crippled so it could never be used for VoIP etc. if the carrier's worried about that sort of thing. Frankly I've never seen a real life GPRS link which had latencies much below 1000ms or so for a packet roundtrip to the internet. One thing I have heard about being done in data deployments is making use of "friends and family" plans to get a minimum voice minute plan, then tack on additional "phones" for $9.99 each per month, and then each phone also gets an unlimited data plan. $9.99 + $20 would be $30 per month for unlimited data, which isn't terrible... And now I'm wondering what the telco's rules are on reselling F&F membership -- ie could Gumstix maybe create a master account, then resell F&F memberships to y'all? I'll go right now and read the fine print... C |