From: James A. <jam...@gm...> - 2010-05-24 10:19:25
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Hi All, I would like to drive my COM module from a Li-Ion battery + charger IC [Ti BQ24032] which will drive a maximum of 4.4V to the system (when the AC power is present). The 'docs' spec the input voltage to the COM as 3.3-4.2V. Is there anything else on the COM module which restricts the voltage range or can I drive max 4.4V, and will the unit (once turned on) keep going down to 2V7? NB I know the TPS65950 won't turn on unless there is 3.2V (+/-100mV) present, the magic line from the spec says: "(1) 2.7 V is the minimum threshold for the battery at which the device will turn OFF. However, the minimum voltage at which the device will power ON is 3.2 V ±100 mV (if PWRON does not have a switch and is connected to VBAT) considering battery plug as the device switch on event. If PWRON has a switch then 3.2 V is the minimum for the device to turn ON." Thanks in advance, James. |
From: R. P. M. <log...@gm...> - 2010-05-24 10:27:53
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I have had no trouble with 4.5V input. The PMIC can handle that. Voltages less than 3.0V sometimes give me trouble. Some units run and some don't. But 3.1V has always gives me reliable operation once the unit has started. I suspect 3.0V would probably be a safe minimum value to use to ensure reliable operation. On 5/24/10, James Adams <jam...@gm...> wrote: > Hi All, > > I would like to drive my COM module from a Li-Ion battery + charger IC > [Ti BQ24032] which will drive a maximum of 4.4V to the system (when > the AC power is present). > > The 'docs' spec the input voltage to the COM as 3.3-4.2V. > > Is there anything else on the COM module which restricts the voltage > range or can I drive max 4.4V, and will the unit (once turned on) keep > going down to 2V7? > > NB I know the TPS65950 won't turn on unless there is 3.2V (+/-100mV) > present, the magic line from the spec says: > > "(1) 2.7 V is the minimum threshold for the battery at which the > device will turn OFF. However, the minimum voltage at which the device > will > power ON is 3.2 V ±100 mV (if PWRON does not have a switch and is > connected to VBAT) considering battery plug as the device > switch on event. If PWRON has a switch then 3.2 V is the minimum for > the device to turn ON." > > Thanks in advance, > > James. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: Søren S. C. <li...@ss...> - 2010-06-05 09:29:28
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Hi, I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V (or 1V8 - I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This might be the reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the 3V1 found by R. P. McMurphy. TPS65950 can run down to 2V7 when it's first turned on as stated previously in the snippet from the datasheet, but this of cause doesn't help much in case the rest of the module can't :-) Secondly: Please keep in mind that 4V5 is absolute maximum rating for TPS65950 (although it can tolerate 5V2 spikes for up to 10ms), so I wouldn't design with supplying it from a source higher than 4V40 - 4V45 (just to have a little margin)... Good luck with your project Søren --- SSC Solutions ApS - Denmark - www.ssc-solutions.dk > I have had no trouble with 4.5V input. The PMIC can handle that. > > Voltages less than 3.0V sometimes give me trouble. Some units run and > some don't. But 3.1V has always gives me reliable operation once the > unit has started. I suspect 3.0V would probably be a safe minimum > value to use to ensure reliable operation. > > On 5/24/10, James Adams <jam...@gm...> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I would like to drive my COM module from a Li-Ion battery + charger > IC > > [Ti BQ24032] which will drive a maximum of 4.4V to the system (when > > the AC power is present). > > > > The 'docs' spec the input voltage to the COM as 3.3-4.2V. > > > > Is there anything else on the COM module which restricts the voltage > > range or can I drive max 4.4V, and will the unit (once turned on) > keep > > going down to 2V7? > > > > NB I know the TPS65950 won't turn on unless there is 3.2V (+/-100mV) > > present, the magic line from the spec says: > > > > "(1) 2.7 V is the minimum threshold for the battery at which the > > device will turn OFF. However, the minimum voltage at which the > device > > will > > power ON is 3.2 V ±100 mV (if PWRON does not have a switch and is > > connected to VBAT) considering battery plug as the device > > switch on event. If PWRON has a switch then 3.2 V is the minimum for > > the device to turn ON." > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > James. |
From: R. P. M. <log...@gm...> - 2010-06-05 10:40:32
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>> I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V (or 1V8 - I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This might be the reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the 3V1 found by R. P. McMurphy. No, I think the reason is that there is a reset generator IC that forces reset if the input voltage is too low. Note that the Overo module will reliably start at, or above, 3.1V. And once started can run okay with the voltage down to lower than 3.0V. The reason I state 3.1V is that we have to be able to get the thing out of reset if the power is lost, and anything below ~3.1V just does nothing at start-up. On 6/5/10, Søren Steen Christensen <li...@ss...> wrote: > Hi, > > I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V (or 1V8 - > I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This might be the > reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the 3V1 found > by R. P. McMurphy. TPS65950 can run down to 2V7 when it's first turned on as > stated previously in the snippet from the datasheet, but this of cause > doesn't help much in case the rest of the module can't :-) > > Secondly: Please keep in mind that 4V5 is absolute maximum rating for > TPS65950 (although it can tolerate 5V2 spikes for up to 10ms), so I wouldn't > design with supplying it from a source higher than 4V40 - 4V45 (just to have > a little margin)... > > Good luck with your project > Søren > > --- > SSC Solutions ApS - Denmark - www.ssc-solutions.dk > >> I have had no trouble with 4.5V input. The PMIC can handle that. >> >> Voltages less than 3.0V sometimes give me trouble. Some units run and >> some don't. But 3.1V has always gives me reliable operation once the >> unit has started. I suspect 3.0V would probably be a safe minimum >> value to use to ensure reliable operation. >> >> On 5/24/10, James Adams <jam...@gm...> wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I would like to drive my COM module from a Li-Ion battery + charger >> IC >> > [Ti BQ24032] which will drive a maximum of 4.4V to the system (when >> > the AC power is present). >> > >> > The 'docs' spec the input voltage to the COM as 3.3-4.2V. >> > >> > Is there anything else on the COM module which restricts the voltage >> > range or can I drive max 4.4V, and will the unit (once turned on) >> keep >> > going down to 2V7? >> > >> > NB I know the TPS65950 won't turn on unless there is 3.2V (+/-100mV) >> > present, the magic line from the spec says: >> > >> > "(1) 2.7 V is the minimum threshold for the battery at which the >> > device will turn OFF. However, the minimum voltage at which the >> device >> > will >> > power ON is 3.2 V ±100 mV (if PWRON does not have a switch and is >> > connected to VBAT) considering battery plug as the device >> > switch on event. If PWRON has a switch then 3.2 V is the minimum for >> > the device to turn ON." >> > >> > Thanks in advance, >> > >> > James. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > |
From: Søren S. C. <li...@ss...> - 2010-06-05 10:54:19
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OK - Thanks for correcting me. The chip I was referring to is the one encircled in red I the attached image. I admit it has been a while since I looked into this (trying to figure out if I could shutdown the HF oscillator in any way - Realized that I couldn't :-(). AFAIR I found this chip to be a LDO for the oscillator - Isn't this correct? Might be it is 1V8 LDO though, meaning it would most likely have no problem going below 3V0 - I don't remember... To make sure we are aligned. Does this mean that the COM module can actually run down to the TPS65950 limit of 2V7 (when it's first turned on)? Until now I have always just the module at 3V3 since I have not been in any serious power savings need for a product based on a Gumstix yet... Best regards and thanks again Søren --- SSC Solutions ApS - Denmark - www.ssc-solutions.dk > -----Original Message----- > From: R. P. McMurphy [mailto:log...@gm...] > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:40 PM > To: General mailing list for gumstix users. > Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Overo COM input voltage > > >> I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V > (or 1V8 - > I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This might > be the > reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the 3V1 > found > by R. P. McMurphy. > > No, I think the reason is that there is a reset generator IC that > forces reset if the input voltage is too low. Note that the Overo > module will reliably start at, or above, 3.1V. And once started can > run okay with the voltage down to lower than 3.0V. The reason I state > 3.1V is that we have to be able to get the thing out of reset if the > power is lost, and anything below ~3.1V just does nothing at start-up. > > On 6/5/10, Søren Steen Christensen <li...@ss...> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V (or > 1V8 - > > I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This might > be the > > reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the 3V1 > found > > by R. P. McMurphy. TPS65950 can run down to 2V7 when it's first > turned on as > > stated previously in the snippet from the datasheet, but this of > cause > > doesn't help much in case the rest of the module can't :-) > > > > Secondly: Please keep in mind that 4V5 is absolute maximum rating for > > TPS65950 (although it can tolerate 5V2 spikes for up to 10ms), so I > wouldn't > > design with supplying it from a source higher than 4V40 - 4V45 (just > to have > > a little margin)... > > > > Good luck with your project > > Søren > > > > --- > > SSC Solutions ApS - Denmark - www.ssc-solutions.dk > > > >> I have had no trouble with 4.5V input. The PMIC can handle that. > >> > >> Voltages less than 3.0V sometimes give me trouble. Some units run > and > >> some don't. But 3.1V has always gives me reliable operation once the > >> unit has started. I suspect 3.0V would probably be a safe minimum > >> value to use to ensure reliable operation. > >> > >> On 5/24/10, James Adams <jam...@gm...> wrote: > >> > Hi All, > >> > > >> > I would like to drive my COM module from a Li-Ion battery + > charger > >> IC > >> > [Ti BQ24032] which will drive a maximum of 4.4V to the system > (when > >> > the AC power is present). > >> > > >> > The 'docs' spec the input voltage to the COM as 3.3-4.2V. > >> > > >> > Is there anything else on the COM module which restricts the > voltage > >> > range or can I drive max 4.4V, and will the unit (once turned on) > >> keep > >> > going down to 2V7? > >> > > >> > NB I know the TPS65950 won't turn on unless there is 3.2V (+/- > 100mV) > >> > present, the magic line from the spec says: > >> > > >> > "(1) 2.7 V is the minimum threshold for the battery at which the > >> > device will turn OFF. However, the minimum voltage at which the > >> device > >> > will > >> > power ON is 3.2 V ±100 mV (if PWRON does not have a switch and is > >> > connected to VBAT) considering battery plug as the device > >> > switch on event. If PWRON has a switch then 3.2 V is the minimum > for > >> > the device to turn ON." > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance, > >> > > >> > James. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > > _______________________________________________ > > gumstix-users mailing list > > gum...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2919 - Release Date: > 06/05/10 08:25:00 |
From: R. P. M. <log...@gm...> - 2010-06-05 12:29:36
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I can confirm that the 26MHz oscillator cannot be turned off. It is permanently powered. Rather a shame too because it uses quite a significant amount of power when the module is in standby mode. As for 2.7V, I have not tried to run so low. My battery protection triggers at 2.98V and my whole board shuts down by abrupt power removal. But just in case you missed it previously, you will still need around 3.1V to get it to start-up again. The 3.1V start is an Overo board limitation, not an expansion board limitation. On 6/5/10, Søren Steen Christensen <li...@ss...> wrote: > OK - Thanks for correcting me. The chip I was referring to is the one > encircled in red I the attached image. I admit it has been a while since I > looked into this (trying to figure out if I could shutdown the HF oscillator > in any way - Realized that I couldn't :-(). AFAIR I found this chip to be a > LDO for the oscillator - Isn't this correct? Might be it is 1V8 LDO though, > meaning it would most likely have no problem going below 3V0 - I don't > remember... > > To make sure we are aligned. Does this mean that the COM module can actually > run down to the TPS65950 limit of 2V7 (when it's first turned on)? Until now > I have always just the module at 3V3 since I have not been in any serious > power savings need for a product based on a Gumstix yet... > > Best regards and thanks again > Søren > > --- > SSC Solutions ApS - Denmark - www.ssc-solutions.dk > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: R. P. McMurphy [mailto:log...@gm...] >> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:40 PM >> To: General mailing list for gumstix users. >> Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Overo COM input voltage >> >> >> I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V >> (or 1V8 - >> I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This might >> be the >> reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the 3V1 >> found >> by R. P. McMurphy. >> >> No, I think the reason is that there is a reset generator IC that >> forces reset if the input voltage is too low. Note that the Overo >> module will reliably start at, or above, 3.1V. And once started can >> run okay with the voltage down to lower than 3.0V. The reason I state >> 3.1V is that we have to be able to get the thing out of reset if the >> power is lost, and anything below ~3.1V just does nothing at start-up. >> >> On 6/5/10, Søren Steen Christensen <li...@ss...> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V (or >> 1V8 - >> > I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This might >> be the >> > reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the 3V1 >> found >> > by R. P. McMurphy. TPS65950 can run down to 2V7 when it's first >> turned on as >> > stated previously in the snippet from the datasheet, but this of >> cause >> > doesn't help much in case the rest of the module can't :-) >> > >> > Secondly: Please keep in mind that 4V5 is absolute maximum rating for >> > TPS65950 (although it can tolerate 5V2 spikes for up to 10ms), so I >> wouldn't >> > design with supplying it from a source higher than 4V40 - 4V45 (just >> to have >> > a little margin)... >> > >> > Good luck with your project >> > Søren >> > >> > --- >> > SSC Solutions ApS - Denmark - www.ssc-solutions.dk >> > >> >> I have had no trouble with 4.5V input. The PMIC can handle that. >> >> >> >> Voltages less than 3.0V sometimes give me trouble. Some units run >> and >> >> some don't. But 3.1V has always gives me reliable operation once the >> >> unit has started. I suspect 3.0V would probably be a safe minimum >> >> value to use to ensure reliable operation. >> >> >> >> On 5/24/10, James Adams <jam...@gm...> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> >> > >> >> > I would like to drive my COM module from a Li-Ion battery + >> charger >> >> IC >> >> > [Ti BQ24032] which will drive a maximum of 4.4V to the system >> (when >> >> > the AC power is present). >> >> > >> >> > The 'docs' spec the input voltage to the COM as 3.3-4.2V. >> >> > >> >> > Is there anything else on the COM module which restricts the >> voltage >> >> > range or can I drive max 4.4V, and will the unit (once turned on) >> >> keep >> >> > going down to 2V7? >> >> > >> >> > NB I know the TPS65950 won't turn on unless there is 3.2V (+/- >> 100mV) >> >> > present, the magic line from the spec says: >> >> > >> >> > "(1) 2.7 V is the minimum threshold for the battery at which the >> >> > device will turn OFF. However, the minimum voltage at which the >> >> device >> >> > will >> >> > power ON is 3.2 V ±100 mV (if PWRON does not have a switch and is >> >> > connected to VBAT) considering battery plug as the device >> >> > switch on event. If PWRON has a switch then 3.2 V is the minimum >> for >> >> > the device to turn ON." >> >> > >> >> > Thanks in advance, >> >> > >> >> > James. >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------- >> > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo >> > _______________________________________________ >> > gumstix-users mailing list >> > gum...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users >> > >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------- >> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo >> _______________________________________________ >> gumstix-users mailing list >> gum...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2919 - Release Date: >> 06/05/10 08:25:00 > |
From: Søren S. C. <li...@ss...> - 2010-06-05 12:41:55
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Then we totally agree. :-) Søren > I can confirm that the 26MHz oscillator cannot be turned off. It is > permanently powered. Rather a shame too because it uses quite a > significant amount of power when the module is in standby mode. > > As for 2.7V, I have not tried to run so low. My battery protection > triggers at 2.98V and my whole board shuts down by abrupt power > removal. But just in case you missed it previously, you will still > need around 3.1V to get it to start-up again. The 3.1V start is an > Overo board limitation, not an expansion board limitation. > > On 6/5/10, Søren Steen Christensen <li...@ss...> wrote: > > OK - Thanks for correcting me. The chip I was referring to is the one > > encircled in red I the attached image. I admit it has been a while > since I > > looked into this (trying to figure out if I could shutdown the HF > oscillator > > in any way - Realized that I couldn't :-(). AFAIR I found this chip > to be a > > LDO for the oscillator - Isn't this correct? Might be it is 1V8 LDO > though, > > meaning it would most likely have no problem going below 3V0 - I > don't > > remember... > > > > To make sure we are aligned. Does this mean that the COM module can > actually > > run down to the TPS65950 limit of 2V7 (when it's first turned on)? > Until now > > I have always just the module at 3V3 since I have not been in any > serious > > power savings need for a product based on a Gumstix yet... > > > > Best regards and thanks again > > Søren > > > > --- > > SSC Solutions ApS - Denmark - www.ssc-solutions.dk > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: R. P. McMurphy [mailto:log...@gm...] > >> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:40 PM > >> To: General mailing list for gumstix users. > >> Subject: Re: [Gumstix-users] Overo COM input voltage > >> > >> >> I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V > >> (or 1V8 - > >> I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This > might > >> be the > >> reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the 3V1 > >> found > >> by R. P. McMurphy. > >> > >> No, I think the reason is that there is a reset generator IC that > >> forces reset if the input voltage is too low. Note that the Overo > >> module will reliably start at, or above, 3.1V. And once started can > >> run okay with the voltage down to lower than 3.0V. The reason I > state > >> 3.1V is that we have to be able to get the thing out of reset if the > >> power is lost, and anything below ~3.1V just does nothing at start- > up. > >> > >> On 6/5/10, Søren Steen Christensen <li...@ss...> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I think to remember that the VSYSTEM as well is feed through a 3V > (or > >> 1V8 - > >> > I don't remember) regulator next to TPS65950 on the board. This > might > >> be the > >> > reason why the COM module doesn't like going much lower than the > 3V1 > >> found > >> > by R. P. McMurphy. TPS65950 can run down to 2V7 when it's first > >> turned on as > >> > stated previously in the snippet from the datasheet, but this of > >> cause > >> > doesn't help much in case the rest of the module can't :-) > >> > > >> > Secondly: Please keep in mind that 4V5 is absolute maximum rating > for > >> > TPS65950 (although it can tolerate 5V2 spikes for up to 10ms), so > I > >> wouldn't > >> > design with supplying it from a source higher than 4V40 - 4V45 > (just > >> to have > >> > a little margin)... > >> > > >> > Good luck with your project > >> > Søren > >> > > >> > --- > >> > SSC Solutions ApS - Denmark - www.ssc-solutions.dk > >> > > >> >> I have had no trouble with 4.5V input. The PMIC can handle that. > >> >> > >> >> Voltages less than 3.0V sometimes give me trouble. Some units run > >> and > >> >> some don't. But 3.1V has always gives me reliable operation once > the > >> >> unit has started. I suspect 3.0V would probably be a safe minimum > >> >> value to use to ensure reliable operation. > >> >> > >> >> On 5/24/10, James Adams <jam...@gm...> wrote: > >> >> > Hi All, > >> >> > > >> >> > I would like to drive my COM module from a Li-Ion battery + > >> charger > >> >> IC > >> >> > [Ti BQ24032] which will drive a maximum of 4.4V to the system > >> (when > >> >> > the AC power is present). > >> >> > > >> >> > The 'docs' spec the input voltage to the COM as 3.3-4.2V. > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there anything else on the COM module which restricts the > >> voltage > >> >> > range or can I drive max 4.4V, and will the unit (once turned > on) > >> >> keep > >> >> > going down to 2V7? > >> >> > > >> >> > NB I know the TPS65950 won't turn on unless there is 3.2V (+/- > >> 100mV) > >> >> > present, the magic line from the spec says: > >> >> > > >> >> > "(1) 2.7 V is the minimum threshold for the battery at which > the > >> >> > device will turn OFF. However, the minimum voltage at which the > >> >> device > >> >> > will > >> >> > power ON is 3.2 V ±100 mV (if PWRON does not have a switch and > is > >> >> > connected to VBAT) considering battery plug as the device > >> >> > switch on event. If PWRON has a switch then 3.2 V is the > minimum > >> for > >> >> > the device to turn ON." > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks in advance, > >> >> > > >> >> > James. > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- > >> --------- > >> > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > >> > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > >> > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > gumstix-users mailing list > >> > gum...@li... > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > >> > > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > >> ------- > >> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > >> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > >> lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > >> _______________________________________________ > >> gumstix-users mailing list > >> gum...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2919 - Release Date: > >> 06/05/10 08:25:00 > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo > _______________________________________________ > gumstix-users mailing list > gum...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gumstix-users > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2919 - Release Date: > 06/05/10 08:25:00 |