Re: [Gramps-devel] Narrative Web Images

[Douglas S. B. <db...@cs...>]

Unless I have misunderstood Jason (and Benny), I don't think that
everything that Benny mentioned is relevant. Jason is (I think) talking
about webpages *produced* with GRAMPS, not GRAMPS itself. For example, I
could put at the bottom of a text-based report (or webpage) that I
generated any kind of limited license I wanted.

On the other hand, if the webpage or report contains copyrighted graphics
(or other media), then this is where we run into the issues that Benny
raised. But, depending on the style sheet (and actual media used) this
might not be an issue. For example, the user could replace our graphics
with others (free or proprietary) and we wouldn't know.

It sounds like if we want to have a creative-commons permissive license,
then we need to only use graphics on those pages that match that use.

-Doug

On Sun, March 9, 2008 9:13 am, Benny Malengier wrote:
> Licensing is very important, and I'm afraid we have a problem here with
> the
> license you want to use.
>
> You will see our icons are a mix of GPL (like GNOME) and creative commons
> with attribution (like TANGO icons) and we cannot mix icons from those
> :-(,
> so licenses can be a bother
>
> Anyway, you can add stuff to GRAMPS, but images wich are creative commons
> no
> commercial is a NO-GO !!
> It is perfectly possible to redistribute GRAMPS and sell it, some people
> do
> it even with selling the Linux Genealogy CD _today_.
> Feel free to add images that are really free (so public domain, share
> alike,
> and attribution type licenses) they are ok with the distribution license
> of
> GPL (which allows reselling). However, do not add images that cannot be
> used
> freely like that.
>
> If you have images that you only want to distribute under the 'everything
> but commercial with attribution'  don't add them to GRAMPS, and instead
> add
> more free images to GRAMPS code, and eg provide a package users can
> download
> to 'improve' the images under your more strict licence. This does not
> place
> restrictions on the GRAMPS codebase the developers did not want to add
> when
> choosing the GPL.
>
> The reasons for this is the story of eg Firefox and Debian, where Firefox
> is
> not in Debian free because the images used are not free.
>
> Benny
>
> 2008/3/8, Jason Simanek <jsi...@gm...>:
>>
>> [I hope this isn't a repeat. GMail's SMTP settings are not cooperating
>> with Evolution...]
>>
>> As you've probably seen, the 'Mainz' style is dependant on the use of
>> background images to accomplish its appearance. I know that GRAMPS is
>> published under the GPL, but I was wondering if I should put a Creative
>> Commons license on those graphics (in the 'comments' option in GIMP).
>> I've been reading up on it, but I'm not sure if the GPL covers images.
>>
>> Actually, I'm not concerned about the images in the context of GRAMPS
>> and the source code. What I'm concerned about is that these images will
>> largely be seen and interacted with on the web without the context of
>> GRAMPS being readily apparent. I don't think the license of the graphics
>> should be left to whatever license the user decides to put on their
>> GRAMPS-generated website. In that context, should a license be specified
>> in the CSS files also?
>>
>> Figured I'd see what you all thought. The CC license I have in mind is
>> the 'everything but commercial with attribution' license. I don't care
>> who uses my work as long as it isn't used for commercial purposes.
>>
>> Let me know what you think. Just trying to cross the 'i's and dot the
>> 't's! ;)
>>
>> -Jason
>>
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