From: Steve H. <dig...@mi...> - 2004-05-19 03:47:44
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Here's the second half of feature re-writes, below. Mitchell, we could go live with this, but I'm going to be going through the menus and features I know for further items. Then we can lightly re-hash the whole list. Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENT: o Exports to Web Family Tree, CD, and gramps package ALTERNATE: o [I have no idea what File > Export > Web Family Tree is.] o Export directly to the GNU/Linux/GNOME Nautilus file manager for burning to CD. o Export a GRAMPS package file containing your data, ___media?___ and ... for backup or sharing with other GRAMPS users. --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENT: o Support for all media types known to your computer: images, sounds, movies, word processor documents, spreadsheets, etc ALTERNATE: o Link any media or filetype to your GRAMPS family tree. Choose between copying or linking the file to the database. --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENT: o Support for privacy options ALTERNATE: o Privacy options allow restriction of information about living individuals in reports and data exports. --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENT: o Highly advanced/configurable reports * Wide variety of reports: Text (including pictures), Graphics (charts and graphs), Web page, Book, and View reports * Support for many report output formats: 8 text formats (AbiWord, HTML, KWord, Latex, OpenOffice.org, PDF, Plain text, and RTF), 4 graphics formats (OpenOffice.org, PDF, PostScript, and SVG), and direct printing. * Plugin architecture: enables user to create their own tools and reports ALTERNATE: [IMO, the headings under Reports needs some work. "Books" is really a meta-report that belongs at the end of the list (ignoring alphabetization since it's not perceived anyway). "Graphic Reports" probably is better described with "Charts" or "Charts and Graphs". And the items under "View" belong in the "Tools" menu unless they are a short term stand-in for a future report type, in which case they belong under "Text Reports".] o Reports. Generate brief or detailed reports for the ancestors or descendants of an individual. * Multiple styles of reports are currently available by default. * Reports * Custom reports can be created by advanced users under the "plugin" system which allows the sharing of custom report styles between users. * GRAMPS supports eight different report file formats: PDF, AbiWord, KWord, OpenOffice Writer, HTML, Rich Text Format (RTF), Latex, and plain text. o Charts and Graphs. Create graphical Ancestor and Descendent charts in several formats. * Limited traditional box charts and a fan chart are available. * GRAMPS supports four formats for charts and graphs: OpenOffice Draw, PDF, PostScript, and SVG. * Custom charts can be created by users. We hope to add more in the near future through the contributions of users and developers. o Export to Web Pages. Select the entire database, family lines or selected individuals to a collection of web pages ready for upload to the World Wide Web. --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENT: o Highly internationalized * Support for multiple calendars and date ranges * Translations exist for 14 languages (See the translations page) * New translation can be easily added with no additional development effort * Relationship calculators in four languages * Full unicode support: your character set is guaranteed to be supported ALTERNATE: o Support for multiple calendars and dating systems. o Mature support across multiple languages and cultures. * Translations exist for 14 languages. (See the Translations [link] page.) * GRAMPS has been designed so that new translations can easily be added with little development effort. If you are interested in participating please contact us. [link] * Relationship calculators in four languages. * Full unicode support. Characters for all languages are properly displayed. (When used with a unicode font containing the glyphs.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- CURRENT: o Free/open source development and active community involvement: features are added and bugs are fixed based on user feedback. Releases are made numerous times a year (11 during last 12 months period). ALTERNATE: o Active community involvement. Many current GRAMPS users contribute reports, suggestions, and feedback to the developers through various public mailing lists. The program is only a few years old and already has wide capabilities and features. o Active development effort. New versions already in testing use an advanced database design that guarantee very fast access to many thousands of entries in the database. Other new features are being designed and coordinated by several active developers. Many additional participants assist through the mailing lists. Group effort shapes and tests GRAMPS constantly improving functionality and usability. o Free/Open Source development model means GRAMPS can be extended by any programmer since all of the source code is freely available under its license. o GRAMPS is written in a computer language called Python using GTK libraries. While only well supported in certain Unix and Linux environments, these are multi-platform development libraries, meaning that GRAMPS could be ported to Windows or Apple. o GRAMPS is freely distributable under the GPL [link]! END |
From: Alex R. <sh...@al...> - 2004-05-19 04:40:54
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On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 11:51:30PM -0400, Steve Hall wrote: > o GRAMPS is written in a computer language called Python using GTK > libraries. While only well supported in certain Unix and Linux > environments, these are multi-platform development libraries, > meaning that GRAMPS could be ported to Windows or Apple. Small correction here: GTK+ and pygtk are ported to Windows. In order to run gramps, however, GNOME libraries have to be ported, and they are not. If they were,=20 gramps would run on Windows without much additional effort. As for the Mac, gramps runs on OS X (under X11) as both GTK+ and GNOME are ported to OS X. Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://ebner.neuroscience.umn.edu/people/alex.html Dept. of Neuroscience, Lions Research Building 2001 6th Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Tel (612) 625-7566 FAX (612) 626-9201 |
From: Mitchell F. <mit...@ya...> - 2004-05-19 05:42:54
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I've incorporated that into the about page. I kept the old list, put it below and labeled it as "Abbreviated Feature List". I also added a placeholder for the limitations / weaknesses section. I also added links to screenshots for some of the relevant features. Eric Newman wrote: > Or you could have an abbreviated feature list with "Learn More..." or "See > Detail" links next to each feature where the feature would be more fully > described, possibly with example uses. Eric, thanks for the suggestion. It sounds like a good idea, but would require quite a bit of work. Perhaps I'll look into that more when we have the current itteration of the site released. I marked any of the entries I thought needed work in red, so they are easy to spot. Any comments/additions/corrections on the entries or webpage design? (http://web.pdx.edu/~mferschw/gramps/about.html) Steve, in the contact section, I created a new section called website with both yours and my email addresses (with the no spam clause). Is that okay with you? Mitchell __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ |
From: Steve H. <dig...@mi...> - 2004-05-19 11:10:31
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From: Mitchell Ferschweiler, Tue, 18 May 2004 22:42:49 -0700 (PDT) > [re: (http://web.pdx.edu/~mferschw/gramps/about.html)] > > I've incorporated that into the about page. I kept the old list, put > it below and labeled it as "Abbreviated Feature List". I also added > a placeholder for the limitations / weaknesses section. I also added > links to screenshots for some of the relevant features. Looks great, you were thinking a lot of the things I was. o The red really helps me to see what we're changing. o "Limitations" section--good word. (My thought was that charts and graphs could be improved. o First item "(As opposed to "It's not broken" :)" should have been bracketed as it was my commentary. :)) o I wrote the list thinking the first word/phrase could be bolded to make it easier to skim over the list, and so a short version wouldn't be necessary. Examples: * "*Six different views* for navigating your family:" * "*Bookmark favorite individuals* for quick access." * "*Soundex generator.*" o Let's combine Limitations and Features in progress some how, something like "Limitations and Future Improvements". [...] > Steve, in the contact section, I created a new section called > website with both yours and my email addresses (with the no spam > clause). Is that okay with you? That's fine, although you can use "Steve Hall" instead of the nick. -- Steve Hall [ dig...@mi... ] |
From: Mitchell F. <mit...@ya...> - 2004-05-21 06:16:04
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Alright, I've done a little more work on the about page (http://web.pdx.edu/~mferschw/gramps/about.html), but I need some more help. Stuff I've changed recently in blue, and I still need to do some work with bold to make thing look a little better. 1) What does a GRAMPS package contain? Anything other than the database itself? 2) The export to Web Family Tree. I say a reference in the manual saying it was for an external program, but didn't really find anything else out about it. Can someone fill me in as to what exactly it does (other than make a text file)? 3) For the Rich set of tools, is there anything else notable other than the already mentioned relationship calculator and soundex generator? 4) Any additions to limitiations/weaknesses of GRAMPS? I currently only have the problem with large databases. Has any of this mail reached the user list (perhaps that's a better place to ask this question?)? Mitchell __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer |
From: Alex R. <sh...@al...> - 2004-05-21 13:04:54
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On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 11:15:58PM -0700, Mitchell Ferschweiler wrote: >=20 > 1) What does a GRAMPS package contain? Anything other than the database i= tself? Yes. GRAMPS package contains the database itself _plus_ copies of all media objects the database has references to, in a single tarball. That way the database is completely portable. If you attempted to just copy the database file to another machine, you would have the references to the images, sounds, and whatever els emedia objects you had which are not valid anymore (unless you have all the same files in the same places :-) > 2) The export to Web Family Tree. I say a reference in the manual saying = it was > for an external program, but didn't really find anything else out about i= t. Can > someone fill me in as to what exactly it does (other than make a text fil= e)? See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au/os2/wft.html > 3) For the Rich set of tools, is there anything else notable other > than the already mentioned relationship calculator and soundex > generator? Below is the list with some annotation on the right. Tools * Analysis and Exploration o Compare individual events Compares events across people in the database, can save results=20 into OOo spreadsheet.=20 o Interactive descendant browser Shows the expandable tree of descendants in a separate window.=20 Dooble-clicking on the entry evokes EditPerson dialog. * Database Processing o Check and repair database Checks database for consistency (missing links, extra links,=20 lost media objects, and such). o Extract information from names Finds all instances of names like Edwin Michael "Mike" Smith and=20 shows them in the table (extracts nicknames, suffuxes and prefixes).= =20 Upon your choice, can remove the detected part from the first name= =20 and put it into nickname, prefix, suffix, etc. o Find possible duplicate people Finds possible duplicates based on a given threshold value.=20 Optionally, the soundex codes can be used for this. Once the search is over, the table is presented with matching ranks and the names of possible duplicates. You can select a couple of people and merge them from that very dialog.=20 o Rename personal event types Lets you rename all the events of type A into another type. E.g. you want events currlently called "Award" to be called "Prize". o Reorder gramps IDs * Debug o Python evaluation window o Show uncollected objects These are not for the fresh users anyway. Show something like=20 a Python terminal and the list of objects not collected to garbage yet. * Utilities o Custom Filter editor o Generate SoundEx codes o Relationship calculator o Verify the database This one asks users for criteria and then checks the database against that criteria. Among the tests are the age when having a child,=20 number of children, max age differences between husband and wife, etc. Very useful in finding silly entry errors. Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://ebner.neuroscience.umn.edu/people/alex.html Dept. of Neuroscience, Lions Research Building 2001 6th Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Tel (612) 625-7566 FAX (612) 626-9201 |
From: Mitchell F. <mit...@ya...> - 2004-05-21 20:25:02
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> Yes. GRGRAMPSackage contains the database itself _plus_ copies of all > media objects the database has references to, in a single tarball. Just out of cucuriositydoes this include the media that you told GRGRAMPSot to make a local copy of? > See hthttp/eeeepjmenewcastlededuuausoswfwftthtml The site says it needs a GEGEDCOMile. Is the export for older versions? > > > 3) For the Rich set of tools, is there anything else notable other > > than the already mentioned relationship calculator and sosoundex> > generator? > > Below is the list with some annotation on the right. Okay I'll add the ones I think fit in the feature list. Mitchell __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer |
From: Mitchell F. <mit...@ya...> - 2004-05-21 22:17:23
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Wow...Not quite sure what happened to that email. I have a feeling that the Yahoo! spellchecker had something to do with it. --- Mitchell Ferschweiler <mit...@ya...> wrote: > > Yes. GRGRAMPSackage contains the database itself _plus_ copies of all > > media objects the database has references to, in a single tarball. > > Just out of cucuriositydoes this include the media that you told GRGRAMPSot > to > make a local copy of? Just out of curiosity does the GRAMPS package include data that you told it not to make a local copy of? > > > > See hthttp/eeeepjmenewcastlededuuausoswfwftthtml > The site says it needs a GEGEDCOMile. Is the export for older versions? The site says it needs a GEDCOM file. Is the export for an older version? > > > > > > 3) For the Rich set of tools, is there anything else notable other > > > than the already mentioned relationship calculator and sosoundex> > > generator? > > > > Below is the list with some annotation on the right. > > Okay I'll add the ones I think fit in the feature list. > > Mitchell __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer |
From: Alex R. <sh...@al...> - 2004-05-22 00:59:04
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On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 01:24:56PM -0700, Mitchell Ferschweiler wrote: > > Yes. GRGRAMPSackage contains the database itself _plus_ copies of all > > media objects the database has references to, in a single tarball. >=20 > Just out of cucuriositydoes this include the media that you told GRGRAMPS= ot to > make a local copy of? Yes. The package containes both the local objects (the ones that you asked= =20 to make a local copy of, which live in the same directory as the gramps=20 database) as well as the copies of all non-local objects. So the package has everything that has to do with the database and as such is completely self-sufficient and portable. > > See hthttp/eeeepjmenewcastlededuuausoswfwftthtml > The site says it needs a GEGEDCOMile. Is the export for older versions? Sorry, I keep bumping into the wrong web family tree page all the time :-) Here's the program for which we can export the data: http://sward.users.netlink.co.uk/family/tree/ Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://ebner.neuroscience.umn.edu/people/alex.html Dept. of Neuroscience, Lions Research Building 2001 6th Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Tel (612) 625-7566 FAX (612) 626-9201 |
From: Mitchell F. <mit...@ya...> - 2004-05-22 23:51:57
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Okay the feature list has been updated. My major changes are in blue. I've experimenting with bolding things. What do people think? If it looks good, there are only a few more changes and it should be complete. Egyeki Gergely asked to have the Hungarian documentation list, and that got me to looking around and I noticed that we seem to have German documentation available, but not listed. Is there an easy way to make the documentation into HTML? Is it even relavent to have tarballs and html copies of the manuals available on the website? If so, how old are the current version? Do they need to be replaced? Mitchell __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer |
From: Alex R. <sh...@al...> - 2004-05-23 04:49:15
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On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 04:51:51PM -0700, Mitchell Ferschweiler wrote: > Okay the feature list has been updated. My major changes are in blue. I've > experimenting with bolding things. What do people think? If it looks good, > there are only a few more changes and it should be complete. My comments, in no particular order: * Boldface works nice in my opinion * Rich set of tools: guys, I'm not hung up on this very phrase. English is not my native language, so please correct if it does not sound good. However, the main comment here is that we also have research tools, not only checks and repairs. For example, the custom filter editor is a tool (of the rich set we have :-). So is the tool comparing events for a set of people. This one can help you determine timing of certain events and maybe even determine/rule out relations: if one=20 person's death is before another person's birth, they can't possibly be= =20 spouses, or parent/child to each other, etc. * Web family tree link is the wrong one -- I have sent the correct one later on, here it is: http://sward.users.netlink.co.uk/family/tree/ * Privacy options allow more than just restricting info on the living people. Users can also mark various records as private and those will be omitted from reports/exports. * Custom filters are not used as the display filters. Instead, they can be used in all exports and some reports (most notably, web page). * GEDCOM export: I would stress that, in addition to supporting 5.5 standard (which no commercial software supports completely, btw), we also support most commercial "extensions" (i.e. breakages) of the GEDCOM. Virtually, every commercial genealogical software extends (breaks) GEDCOM and GRAMPS can deal with this reasonably well. * GRAMPS package: also useful for porting data to a different system(s). * Reports: In addition to the default styles, users can create their own styles, separately for each report type. This allows users to have their preferred markup for headers, section headers, notes, lists, etc. * Graphs: I doubt that any software can create graphs unlimited in=20 functionality. I understand that the point Steve was making was that our graphs are not as feature-rich as commercial ones, but it's not totally unusable :-) I would put that in the Limitations section. Something like "Charts can definitely use improvement". * Unicode support. I think the provision in parenthesis can be safely dropped. Gramps depends on gnome libraries which guarantee proper font selection based on the needed glyphs. If people screw up their GNOME install it's not our fault, but it should work out of the box, so that no additional packages need to be installed. Am I wrong here? * Limited DnD: I think it is present when it makes sense, so it's pretty reasonable if you ask me (pictures can be DnD-ed). As for DnD across databases, the point is moot since one cannot open two databases! So, I would ditch DnD limitation and instead have "Only one database can be opened at one time." in the Limitations section. * To that end, the Features in Progress section may have "Having more than one database open at one time", since this should be made possible in the development version.=20 * Another feature currently overlooked: we have a history-based browser-like navigation capabilities. This includes Back, Forward, and Home buttons, corresponding shortcuts, corresponding context menu items (right-click),= =20 history section in Go menu, as well as back and forward portions of=20 the history (right-click on back and forward buttons).=20 * Book report: this is present in very few commercial programs. I think it is very useful, since one can collect many reports/charts in a single document. That way you can send a book to your parents with chapters devoted to each of them, each chapter having many reports/charts. One can also include custom text (notes, epigraphs, dedications),=20 title (for the whole book, or chapter, or every report) with the optional picture. Great thing to impress your Aunt Martha :-) * Lots of shortcuts which can help navigation. Least-known ones are for the family view and depend on where the focus is. The details are in the manual (keyboard bindings appendix). This can go into the features of the interface. I think this came out to be a huge list. Sorry for not picking things earlier, it was akind of a moving target. Any comments concerning my=20 comments? Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://ebner.neuroscience.umn.edu/people/alex.html Dept. of Neuroscience, Lions Research Building 2001 6th Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Tel (612) 625-7566 FAX (612) 626-9201 |
From: Alex R. <sh...@al...> - 2004-05-23 02:32:02
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On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 04:51:51PM -0700, Mitchell Ferschweiler wrote: >=20 > Egyeki Gergely asked to have the Hungarian documentation list, and that g= ot me > to looking around and I noticed that we seem to have German documentation > available, but not listed. Is there an easy way to make the documentation= into > HTML? I can do that, no problem.=20 > Is it even relavent to have tarballs and html copies of the manuals > available on the website? If so, how old are the current version? Do they= need > to be replaced? I'll double check and let you know. They should be close enough to the current versions, but I can prepare everything current. Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://ebner.neuroscience.umn.edu/people/alex.html Dept. of Neuroscience, Lions Research Building 2001 6th Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Tel (612) 625-7566 FAX (612) 626-9201 |
From: Don A. <don...@co...> - 2004-06-03 03:46:05
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What's the latest on the website changes? Don On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 20:32, Alex Roitman wrote: > On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 04:51:51PM -0700, Mitchell Ferschweiler wrote: > > > > Egyeki Gergely asked to have the Hungarian documentation list, and that got me > > to looking around and I noticed that we seem to have German documentation > > available, but not listed. Is there an easy way to make the documentation into > > HTML? > > I can do that, no problem. > > > Is it even relavent to have tarballs and html copies of the manuals > > available on the website? If so, how old are the current version? Do they need > > to be replaced? > > I'll double check and let you know. They should be close enough to the > current versions, but I can prepare everything current. > > Alex |
From: Mitchell F. <mit...@ya...> - 2004-06-05 02:13:06
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--- Don Allingham <don...@co...> wrote: > What's the latest on the website changes? I've been a little busy with school, so I just now uploaded a new version. I think it's ready to go. I've incorporated some of Alex's and Martin's comments. If there are no immediate objections I'm going to send the tarball to Steve and we'll go from there. Last I heard he was going to put it in a beta subfolder on sourceforge. I think big remaining thing is getting the manuals up and linked. Mitchell __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ |
From: Steve H. <dig...@mi...> - 2004-06-05 03:17:55
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Yup, I'm ready. Just shoot me a mail with the tarball link and I'll put it in beta/. On Fri, 2004-06-04 at 22:13, Mitchell Ferschweiler wrote: > --- Don Allingham <don...@co...> wrote: > > What's the latest on the website changes? > > I've been a little busy with school, so I just now uploaded a new version. I > think it's ready to go. I've incorporated some of Alex's and Martin's comments. > > If there are no immediate objections I'm going to send the tarball to Steve and > we'll go from there. Last I heard he was going to put it in a beta subfolder on > sourceforge. > > I think big remaining thing is getting the manuals up and linked. > > Mitchell |
From: Alex R. <sh...@al...> - 2004-06-05 03:26:33
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Mitchell,=20 On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 07:13:00PM -0700, Mitchell Ferschweiler wrote: >=20 > I've been a little busy with school, so I just now uploaded a new version= =2E I > think it's ready to go. I've incorporated some of Alex's and Martin's com= ments. Minor nitpicks against the current version: 1. "Add more" (in the tools section) can be replaced with=20 "operations such as checking database for errors and consistentcy,=20 as well as the research and analysis tools such as event comparison,=20 duplicate people finding, interactive descendant browser, and others." 2. Limitations section has an extra empty bullet point.=20 3. The penultimate Limitation says that there's "no way to view multiple=20 levels of descendents without generating a report." In fact, there's=20 an interactive descendant browser tool, which does just that.=20 I would remove this limitation from the list,=20 The rest looks pretty good. And we can also adjust existing website, it's not going to be carved in stone :-) I am done with HTML-ing manuals. The only thing I want to do before uploading them to the sf.net is to strip email addresses. I think the people who download and use gramps are the ones who should have our addresses. This is in contrast with robots and spammers using the robots :-) And the casual visitor can live without author/translator address, I beleive.=20 I hope it's OK with everyone. Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://ebner.neuroscience.umn.edu/people/alex.html Dept. of Neuroscience, Lions Research Building 2001 6th Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Tel (612) 625-7566 FAX (612) 626-9201 |
From: Mitchell F. <mit...@ya...> - 2004-06-05 05:01:24
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> > Minor nitpicks against the current version: Okay I've the nitpicks all taken care of. Also added the links for the manual (they will work once the site is in place). I'll send Steve the tarball tomorrow, unless any major problems arise. Mitchell __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ |
From: Alex R. <sh...@al...> - 2004-06-05 04:42:06
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On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 07:13:00PM -0700, Mitchell Ferschweiler wrote: > I think big remaining thing is getting the manuals up and linked. Alright, all the current manuals are up at the sf.net site now: rs...@sh...$ ls -ld /home/groups/g/gr/gramps/htdocs/gramps-manual* drwxrwsr-x 3 rshura gramps 4096 Jun 4 21:11 gramps-manual-de -rw-rw-r-- 1 rshura gramps 1074079 Jun 4 21:36 gramps-manual-de.ta= r.gz drwxrwsr-x 3 rshura gramps 4096 Jun 4 21:36 gramps-manual-en -rw-rw-r-- 1 rshura gramps 942215 Jun 4 21:36 gramps-manual-en.ta= r.gz drwxrwsr-x 3 rshura gramps 4096 Jun 4 21:36 gramps-manual-fr -rw-rw-r-- 1 rshura gramps 675771 Jun 4 21:36 gramps-manual-fr.ta= r.gz drwxrwsr-x 3 rshura gramps 4096 Jun 4 21:11 gramps-manual-hu -rw-rw-r-- 1 rshura gramps 986363 Jun 4 21:36 gramps-manual-hu.ta= r.gz drwxrwsr-x 3 digitect gramps 4096 Jun 4 21:34 gramps-manual-old drwxrwsr-x 3 rshura gramps 4096 Jun 4 21:37 gramps-manual-ru -rw-rw-r-- 1 rshura gramps 970420 Jun 4 21:36 gramps-manual-ru.ta= r.gz drwxrwsr-x 5 dallingham gramps 4096 Jun 4 21:34 gramps-manual-ver= y-old I could not remove -old and -very-old dirs, but they don't hurt :-) The emails stripped, except for the gramps list addresses -- those are all over the place anyway, and sf.net is filtering the spam. Please let me know if there's any problem with the manuals, Alex --=20 Alexander Roitman http://ebner.neuroscience.umn.edu/people/alex.html Dept. of Neuroscience, Lions Research Building 2001 6th Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Tel (612) 625-7566 FAX (612) 626-9201 |
From: Don A. <dal...@us...> - 2004-06-05 04:55:05
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On Fri, 2004-06-04 at 22:42, Alex Roitman wrote: > drwxrwsr-x 5 dallingham gramps 4096 Jun 4 21:34 gramps-manual-very-old > > > I could not remove -old and -very-old dirs, but they don't hurt :-) > I blew away the gramps-manual-very-old directory. Don |