Further to Ted's reply below,

I also use Ancestry as my main on-line tool. †Other people cannot change your tree there (so they can't break it for you!), but they can add comments if you allow them to, and if they have their own tree you can accept "Hints" from their tree and copy information fairly easily from one tree to another. Of course, if you make your tree public, or even have it as a private one shared only with your family members, the information you have in your tree is likely to be shared with others. †Ancestry does however have a setting which hides the details of living people in your tree from others, to protect their privacy.

The main difficulty I have found with keeping an online tree on Ancestry and a local one in Gramps is that of keeping them both in sync.

Unfortunately the GEDCOM file which is created from Ancestry does not contain all the information which you might have saved to your online tree (for instance you will lose any images or attached stories), and there is a similar issue if you try to import a GEDCOM into Ancestry which was created by your Gramps tree.

What I now do is always update my data in Ancestry then export from Ancestry to Gramps, and each time I do this I create a new tree in Gramps. †If I get any images etc. through Ancestry I also save them to a folder on my PC so that if ever I cancel my Ancestry membership or something happens to their servers I still have the source data.

The Ancestry site does not store addresses very well. They just get stored as a single text string. †When you import the GEDCOM into Gramps this address string is put into the Place Name field, leaving all the others empty. †That field isn't currently one of the ones referenced by the Gramps Place Completion Tool, so at the moment if you work in the way I have suggested you will lose the ability to query or run Gramps reports based on location unless you are prepared to do a lot of manual "tidying".

This is just my way of working, and it might not suit you, but I hope the above is of some help.

Lorna.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ted Lomatski <ted@lomatski.ca>
Date: 22 March 2012 22:18
Subject: Re: [Gramps-users] Collaborative family research
To: Eckhard GenŖmann <eckhard.genssmann@onlinehome.de>
Cc: gramps-users@lists.sourceforge.net


Good day Eckhard,

I fully sympathise with you and the frustration you must feel at getting your relatives to contriubute.†

I made a big breakthrough when we celebrated my mother's 80th birthday.† We rented a banquet hall (during February - cold here in Canada, so cheap rent and food), printed out both sides of the family each in a 2.5 metre chart and I blew up 12 pictures from the early 1900s which we also put up on the wall.† I got a great response and had two aunts volunteer to help.

As for collaboration on line, when I uploaded my file, the people that asked to "help" I received no help and found that the information was shared with others.† I knew this because there were errors in the file that I was well aware of.

If you are looking for a site, there is http://www.ancestry.com with a German site at http://www.ancestry.de/

As for keeping control of your database, once you put it out there, that's it.

Cheers,

Ted


On 22 March 2012 17:28, Eckhard GenŖmann <eckhard.genssmann@onlinehome.de> wrote:

Hi all,

Iím using gramps form my private family research since some years and Iím really happy with it. However, as there are few members of my family interested in contributing to the research, Iím considering to change to an environment on web to allow collaboration with others.

Iím thinking on PhpGedView (but this looks very outdated) or Webtrees or something similar.

Nevertheless, I would like to maintain ownership of the data. †Ideally I could monitor what others are adding and then decide to accept this contribution or leave it with the person who addedÖ

Is there any experience with that kind of collaboration? How are you handling this? Does it make sense to completely switch to the other tool or how could this work together with Gramps?

What happened with the Gramps project that was started some time ago to develop an online-version?

Many thanks,

Eckhard


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