2011/6/26 Jason Simanek <jsimanek@gmail.com>

On 06/26/2011 10:00 AM, Jérôme wrote:
> Who is owner of the stats ?
> Here is maybe the 'philosophical' difference.

Yeah, you're right about that. Google's incentive to offer free
analytics services to site owners is to

A  Add to people's positive impression of Google
B  Collect even more "anonymous" data to feed their search algorithm

It's a tough call. Pragmatically I just want an awareness of my site's
actual traffic and not pay an arm and a leg for the service and not
hamper the performance of my website in the process.

The good thing is that we can always turn it off.

> My question was rather about the keywords association and analyses for
> theirs own (google) products. ie. are some data very confidential ? does
> tags on blog and user id will generate some advanced advertisement ? if
> yes, what kind of specific advertisement will be generated by Google.

Well, if we were advertising on gramps-project.org, analytics would
probably help Google target ads appropriate to our traffic. Which would
only help us get better advertising. But since we aren't advertising,
the data they collect should be anonymous.

The thing I'm more paranoid about than anything is leaving my Gmail
account logged in to my primary browser at all times. Then I am most
certain that Google is tracking YOUR activity and using it to target ads
to YOU when you are using Gmail or one of their other services. For that
reason I only use Gmail for handing out to companies and for following
open source mailing lists (cuz their conversation nesting is THE BEST of
any mail service). But most of the time I'm using Thunderbird.

That stuff reminds me of the retina scanners and person-specific ads in
Minority Report. I don't want anything to do with that. :D

> You know how GAnalytics runs.
> That's fine for me, I can skip 'philosophical' difference for that and
> the stats storage could be cosmetic. :)

Well, I don't know everything, but when in doubt follow the trail of
money. Google isn't wasting energy on anything that won't benefit their
bottom line. I think, if anything, using Google Analytics benefits
Google's search result algorithm. That's an acceptable trade-off to me.

I am always trying to stay sober about these things though. It's not
like I trust Google. I just think that I know what their motivations
are. At least for now.

Well, this is not my line of work, so I leave the details for you.
I suggest you talk over any web related stuff with Nick W, general questions on the devel list.
Perhaps Stephane or Brian or Doug have webhosting experience too, otherwise I think noone has experience (if somebody else on devel list has, then speak up).

It's best to work in teams in OSS projects. I'm glad to handle programming stuff and not worry about the hosting/services aspects of the job.


All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable.
Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security
threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
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