2011/3/9 Nick Wallingford <nickw@beekeeping.co.nz>
OK, I think I've got it now.  I *did* do the rollover as it would be expected, using the 'blunt instrument' of replacing 3.2 with 3.3.

But the page refered to:

Nl:Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Handleiding

did not exist as a 3.2 version.  Rather, the page as it came over in the rollover was:
Gramps 3.3 Wiki Handleiding - Verslagen - deel 5

Yes it exists, see
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Nl:Gramps_3.2_Wiki_Handleiding

The page you link to is the translation of
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Manual_-_Reports_-_part_5
The 3.2 version of that page is fully translated:
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.2_Wiki_Manual_-_Reports_-_part_5/nl
but the created 3.3 page has no content..

As example of other problems, see portugueze:
ok: http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=PT:Manual_Wiki_GRAMPS_3.2
not present in 3.3
the rederict page is present http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Manual/pt

So, the script to copy over the manuel should copy over the pages starting with
Gramps_3.2_Wiki_Manual
and look in the file if the first line is not a REDIRECT. In that case, the page that is the rederict should be copied over also, every time replacing 3.2 by 3.3.
It seems for German this worked ok, but for Dutch, portugeze, .... not

Benny


So the *page* is there, but the redirects to it are not right, I think.

I am not at all a 'real user' in the wiki, so don't really know how these have been set up.

But does this attempt at explanation help any?  And please give me any other examples to follow up, as that would help, too...

Nick


On 10/03/11 08:30, Nick Wallingford wrote:
No, Bennie is right, I think...

In the rollover, I have managed to miss that (and maybe other) page out.
I'm in the process right now of going through to figure what might have
happened. I'm *thinking* that the database backup I did to start with
was somehow corrupted.

But I'll report back in within about an hour, I hope...

Nick

On 10/03/11 07:29, jerome wrote:
but not for eg Dutch: title=Nl:Gramps 3.3 Wiki Handleiding

Is it not related to the "_" for replacing space or the space after
#REDIRECT ?

http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Manual/nl&redirect=no


#REDIRECT[[Nl:Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Handleiding]]

http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Nl:Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Handleiding



--- En date de : Mer 9.3.11, Benny
Malengier<benny.malengier@gmail.com> a écrit :

De: Benny Malengier<benny.malengier@gmail.com>
Objet: Re: [Gramps-devel] Wiki Manual for 3.3
À: nick@gramps-project.org
Cc: "Nick Wallingford"<nickw@beekeeping.co.nz>,
"jerome"<romjerome@yahoo.fr>, "Gramps
developers"<gramps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Mercredi 9 mars 2011, 15h29

Nick,

Could you have a look how it comes that grampsd has copied over all
pages of the type
title=De:Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Handbuch
eg:
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=De:Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Handbuch



but not for eg Dutch:
title=Nl:Gramps 3.3 Wiki Handleiding
eg
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Nl:Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Handleiding&action=edit&redlink=1



while the redirect page has been created:
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Manual/nl



I could understand if no redirects where followed, but then the German
version should also be absent.

Here an overview of all languages:
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_manual


We can fix this by hand with some work, but it would be nice if next
time they are included.

Benny

2011/3/1 Nick Wallingford<nickw@beekeeping.co.nz>

I've had another go at the rollover of the manual pages from 3.2 to
3.3 - hopefully I've done a better job this time around, but as I'm
not all that familiar with the wiki overall, please let me know if
there are fundamental errors...




Nick



On 01/03/11 21:44, jerome wrote:


Nick,



It seems that your are copying version 3.1 for localized manuals!





Jérôme





--- En date de : Mar 1.3.11, Benny
Malengier<benny.malengier@gmail.com> a écrit :



De: Benny Malengier<benny.malengier@gmail.com>

Objet: Re: [Gramps-devel] Wiki Manual for 3.3

À: nick@gramps-project.org

Cc: "Gramps developers"<gramps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>

Date: Mardi 1 mars 2011, 9h26



Nick,



there seems to be a problem with some redirects. For Dutch, Nl, the
redirect pages have been made, but not their destination.

See

http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Manual_-_Main_Window/nl




But the page
http://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Nl:Gramps_3.3_Wiki_Handleiding_-_Opstartscherm





has not been created. A missing entry in your script?



Benny



2011/2/28 Nick Wallingford<nickw@beekeeping.co.nz>



I have this morning done the 'rollover' of the wiki manual pages in



preparation for the 3.3 version.







The process is a bit of a blunt instrument: I locate all wiki pages that



have 3.2 in their title and export them to my local machine. I then do



a search and replace on 3.2 to make it all 3.3 (in title and body of



pages...) before re-importing them into the wiki. I've then re-built



the search index for the wiki so the pages can be found.







Note that search/replace of the body text *could* give some unintended



results, but we've done it this way for the last several versions to



save as much work as possible for the new manual's creation...







All up, there are 285 new pages, ready for users to start editing to



update the manual so it matches the 3.3 version. Please let me know if



you want a listing of the pages, or if you see any obvious problems with



the rollover.







As soon as I get the word from the lead developers, I'll be making all



of the 3.2 manual pages non-editable, so that all revisions will be into



the new manual.







Nick W.



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