Re: [Flightgear-devel] The Douglas Dc 3 in GIT

[Pierre M. <pie...@ym...>]

>When the team of the PAF has decided to prohibit access to their work to 
>me, they also requested the opportunity to put it on ILM.

They only banned you from the PAF-Forum. 
Simply because you offended some users there just for having a different opinion than you.

That can be read by everyone in the forum, without beeing registered. And everyone can download their work, without beeing registered.
I have seen that you nearly always act like that, even on the official forum and here on the mailing-list.  
Lacking social skills I would say.

>When I finally got access to their improvements, through a person who 
>has nothing to do with them but that dispatched the wiki link that I did 
>not know, so I logically integrated all their work to my airplane. Thus 
>it has always worked.

To YOUR aircraft? THEIR work? You started the work on the aircraft, but it was the team who finally finished it.
So to make it clear: it's not alone your work, and not alone their work.
It is a work of ALL INVOLVED!

And they published the link in the official forum- you can't have missed that.

>I always took the time to report the authors of the additions in my site 
>because it seems normal for me. If the team of the PAF not appreciate 
>the principle of respect of the original authors of the open source, 
>they go to make aircraft for FS X or X Plane. In addition, it can make money

Muaahahaha - ROFL! 

1.) Who is the original author? You? Again: You just started a work;  the real work- making it flyable and usuable- was done by this group.
Without them it would have been another crappy aircraft made by you as the other more than hundred (!) ones by you. 

They are the original authors as well, like beside you!  I would even say, that have made the main work!

So there are multiple original authors- that's something you have to learn. And you have to respect them as well. You didn't learn from the AlouetteII-conflict last year, right?

2.) YOU want tell us about the principle respect of original authors?
I can still find the already mentioned copyright violations in your aircraft! But see below.

>I'm tired of seeing all these kids puerile want to use the work of 
>others, to obtain recognition as authors.

I have searched through the forums and mailing-list, and it still seems to me that you did not really understand  OpenSource.

>And back on the 5 or 6 files with licensing issues in my airplanes is 
>ridiculous. As usual, Clement did not consider before speaking. Because 
>most have been fixed.

5 or 6? I can remember more - still too much.
And much too much for someone who accuses others here for disrespecting OpenSource.



>Since I started I've always done anything that try to bring something to 
>FG and to please the greatest number. I'm not trying to please me 
>personally. But this, it seems that the PAF can not understand.

Sorry, I have to doubt your words,  "I'm not trying to please me personally." is looking too suspicious to me! 

And they do the same what you want to make us believe you do:
trying to bring something to FG; and "please to greatest number".
And it seems to me that they do with great success- as many more users are tired of the many half finished, unusuable aircraft made by you.



>It's a shame. The team is talented, but seems guided by a kid with goals 
>unrelated to FG and Open Source.

I don't see that, can you prove it?


I wonder how many discussions like that will follow- there seems to be a coherence between your acting and understanding of teamwork and OpenSource and such discussions- OSG-Particles, Bell UH1, AlouetteII, Velocity-XL, and now the DC-3

Why I don't see such discussions on Gijs, Martins, Syds and others work? 

Why?

Pierre Mueller
Switzerland