#101 -V verify fails repeatedly

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Josh Coalson
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2006-05-26
2004-01-25
Derek Dagit
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... and if it does, there are almost always loud
hiccups in playback. I have tried `flac -8 -V` on many
different wav files both in windows and in linux, but
there doesn't seem to be a difference. There do seem
to be certain parts of the file where verification will
fail; about one or two spots in a 4-minute song.
Changing -8 to another number seems to cause
verification to fail at different parts of the file.
Encoding long files would be nearly impossible :)

Discussion

  • Josh Coalson
    Josh Coalson
    2004-02-02

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    I do also have this particular problem:
    System is a Athlon TB 1133MHz (FSB133) on Asus A7V133.
    Encoding long files is nearly impossible due to repeated
    verify errors.
    I have checked RAM with memtest86, but there seem to be no
    problems. Systems stays cool and is not overclocked.

    No other calculation intensive programs (lame, musepack,
    vorbis) have any problems on this system ...

     
  • Derek Dagit
    Derek Dagit
    2004-02-12

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    Curious, I am running an Athlon TB 1.4 on an A7V133.

     
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    Meanwhile I got another comment from a user with a 1 Ghz
    Athlon TB on a Asus A7V133 in a german newsgroup - he has
    the same problems.

    Also I noticed on my system (the 1133Ghz Athlon TB), that by
    setting the FSB down to 100MHz the problem seems to vanish.
    But this slows the CPU down to 850 MHz, of course ...

     
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    by the way: the failure happens more often in higher
    compression modes. Using "-2" or lower, the problem also
    seems to vanish.

    e-mail: jenzd@gmx.de (the one with 1133Mhz Athlon)

     
  • Derek Dagit
    Derek Dagit
    2004-02-13

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    Good call about the FSB frequency. I throttled mine down
    to 100MHz on my A7V133, and `flac -8 -V` encoded a 30-minute
    song, among others, with no errors.

    I also noticed higher failure rates corresponding to higher
    quality parameters.

    My CPU has never been overclocked.

     
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    To test my system once more, I have run the "Torture Test"
    of Prime95 for ca. 26 hours, which is known to find many
    subtle hardware instabilities (CPU/RAM). The system seems to
    be totally stable.

    IMHO there must be a special issue with FLAC on the Asus
    A7V133. And as no other CPU/RAM-intensive program seem to
    have any problems on this platform, I am somehow convinced
    that the problem could be solved for a future version of
    FLAC. At least it should be reproducible on any
    A7V133-system with an Athlon TB processor and FSB set to 133
    Mhz.

    If any further tests/comments are needed, feel free to
    e-mail me:
    jenzd@gmx.de

     
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    Trying out FLAC for the first time I was saddened to see
    VERIFY errors. My system is also an Athlon 1.4 on an ASUS
    A7V133 board.

    This system has been extremely stable for years, but I will
    try running memtest86 all night just to see if it finds any
    problems.

    I didn't see any mention of OS or compiler here... I'm
    running Gentoo Linux with GCC 3.3.4. My CFLAGS="-O3
    -march=athlon -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -pipe"

    -james

     
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    My system completed 15 hours of memtest86 with no errors (16
    passes). I also tried running flac repeatedly on the same
    sans the -V flag, and the file size and checksum would
    change occasionally, so it is not just a problem the verify
    function.

    Along the same lines, running flac -t repeatedly against a
    set of files were verified during encoding will occasioanlly
    yield an MD5 error.

     
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    Yes, same on my computer. Even if the files are verified ok,
    sometimes the data doesn't match the original file. Also
    there are occasional problems during playback using the
    WinAmp-Plugin (strange sounds).
    BTW, the problem obviously doesn't depend on a special
    compiler or operating system ...

    jenz (jenzd@gmx.de)

     
  • Josh Coalson
    Josh Coalson
    2006-05-26

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