Re: [E-devel] E17 in Debian Sid

[Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...>]

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:43:03 +0000 Lut!n <lut...@gm...> babbled:

> 2006/11/24, Falko Schmidt <kae...@st...>:
> >
> > Hi all,

ok- some summary.

1. e.org pages have not been updated or maintained because we anticipated=
 a
while back moving to a new webserver, website and a need to redo ALL the
website. no need to go create content we just need to redo again. this ha=
s
unfortunately been delayed an taken a lot longer that thought. we are sti=
ll
waiting.

2. packages of e17. e17 is unreleased. we do not encourage you to go put
packages in debian or ubuntu - why? you will piss us off as users will ju=
st come
back to use complaining about bugs or missing features when we are not do=
ne. it
doesn't matter what policies you have or how many lines of documentation =
say
not to bother us - they will. they will waste our time and patience. we d=
o NOT
want e in official debian repositories. it just will mean a tonne of supp=
ort we
already don't have time for.

if you want e development to halt - then go ahead. but likely it will mea=
n just
that. users are a burden if you are not prepared for them - and we sure a=
s hell
are not. they will not be god users and contact debian support mechanisms=
 -
they will come back to us.

if you want to do packages - put them in a separate apt repository - make=
 it
harder to get to. this will minimise the impact.

as for working together - i absolutely think you should - ubunutu and deb=
ian
basically are the same (from an e perspective anyway) and there is little=
 use
it duplicating most of the packaging work :)


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> Hi Falko ,
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> as some of you might have noticed, I'm trying to help out by adding and
> > fixing Debian packaging information in CVS since about eight months.
> > Meanwhile I took over Blake's Debian repository on edevelop.org which
> > now supports i386, AMD64, alpha and Sparc.
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> Some days ago Jan Christoph Nordholz < he...@po...>
> > offered me to have E17 uploaded to Debian Sid via his sponsor who cou=
ld
> > sign the packages for us.
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> As there's still time before Etch will be released he will help me to
> > make the packages compliant to the Debian policy.
> >
> > Are there any objections from the E17 Team?
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>=20
> I am the maintainer of the ubuntu repo hosted on edevelop, and with Max=
ence
> Dunnewind (Sp4rKy), Daniele Favara (nomed) and Blake, we've created a t=
eam
> on alitoh whose goal is to build up a debian tree for e17 that matches =
the
> debian policy.
> We are not listed on the debian packaging staff on enlightenment.org (t=
he
> page seems outdated btw), but we've been working quite hard to make a c=
lean
> debian tree. Usually, integration of such projects are made through tea=
ms,
> and teams are usually on alioth.
> There were many people packaging e17 for debian finally, and it makes s=
ense
> to merge our energies. Please have a look at
> http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-e/ . We'd be happy if you want to=
 join
> us in the team, and on #pkg- e...@ir..., so we can make somethi=
ng
> good all together :)
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> Furthermore I'd like to know if people mentioned in the 'Porting and
> > Package Team' section on enlightenment.org are still active in regard=
s
> > of Debian packages.
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> I don't want to step on anyone's toes, so it'd be nice if people tell m=
e
> > if they don't like me messing around in their debian/ directories :)
> >
> > Falko
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> Greets,
> Albin Tonnerre (Lutin), in behalf of the pkg-e team.
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