On 06 Dec 2002 08:37:20 -0500, Hugh Taylor <hrt@...> wrote:
> I've looked at the Enlightenment website and through the archives of
> this list and a few other places. I think I know the answer to this
> question, but I want to be sure. The question is, can Enlightenment be
> run without Gnome or KDE or any other underlying desktop? If so, how do
> I do it? From what I've seen the answer is, E17 will be able to do this,
> but E16 doesn't. Am I correct?
Depends on what feature set you are looking for. E16 will run standalone without Gnome/KDE (I did it for a very long time) but you will lose Panel, desktop icons, etc. which I never wanted/needed/used anyways but some (most?) people use/like. On RH's prior to 8 (and possibly with 8 but I haven't tried) you can run E16 as your window manager within the Gnome Session Manager, so then you have desktop icons and panel, etc. but also get the features of E16. I know this is considerably harder to setup on RH8 since E16 is not included, but might be possible. E17 is a whole other ball game, as it is/was intended to be a session manager (I believe, punt to the gurus) so would include those "types" of features, but is obviously alpha (if that?) software. I have never really been a KDE user so I can't speak to E's interaction with KDE.
> I may not be able to do this anyway, as I am running RedHat 7.3 with
> Ximian Gnome - I really like the Red Carpet update application. It has
> been working really well. Too bad Ximian doesn't have an Enlightenment
I am also not familar with Ximian Gnome, but theoretically if you can tell it to use an alternate window manager than E16 should work, you may lose some of the functionality (drag and drop to the desktop, etc.) that you once had. The best way is to try it and explore whether you are missing anything you are accustomed to. About the only things I don't do at the command line are things I haven't learned or can't be done at the command line, so I use E because it is a bare bones WM. How ironic, calling E bare bones ;-).