#112 Dos Box needs an installer

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2012-09-07
2003-01-10
No

Dos Box needs an installer. Every good program has an
installer. It's just that simple. If you'd like me to make
one for the windows platform using InnoSetup let me
know?

Also repsond with any special installer requests such as
icon locations or whatever. Where can I find artwork for
dos box? I need a 53x53 Dos Box logo for InnoSetup.
Thanks,
Christian Blackburn

Discussion

  • Peter Veenstra
    Peter Veenstra
    2003-01-10

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    hmm dosbox is just a single exe :)
    but okay and a few files :)

    Well maybe there is some artwork done by
    http://www.abandonware-france.org/

    but We don't have a logo or so

     
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    Okay well I just made an installer using InnoSetup 2.X and I'll
    post it once I've made some sort of graphic. I also need to
    edit a little bit of the text DosBox.isl so that the title bar will
    read DOSBox 0.57 Install, instead of "Setup". After it's been
    posted please don't compile it in InnoSetup 3.x, because that
    will break NT 3.51 support and I suppose that otherwise your
    application would support it? Do you know whether it does or
    doesn't? Also do I need to register SDL.dll or Zlib.dll?
    What about that Screenshot function do I need to include and
    or register libPNG for that?

     
  • Richard
    Richard
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    Please dont!

    Installers are terribly annoying. There is no reason for that. I
    absolutley hate installlers which just install one single file.
    Users who aren't able to extract a zip file, shouldn't use
    dosbox. Period.

    Please stay with a zip-file and DON'T switch to this annoying
    installers.

    As for Icon I don't care. Its just simple unimportant.

    Btw. this is a feature request and not a bug.

    trin

     
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    Hi Trinity78,
    Typically bugs and feature requests are stored in the same
    database. I do not feel at fault for having posting my feature
    request in the Bug database since that's the status quo.
    Also I'm glad that you like to copy files, create folders,
    shortcuts, and registry entries, but the average user doesn't.
    That's the whole problem with open source applications sub
    geniuses can't figure them out. Ever tried Bochs? Ehck!
    You don't ever have to use an installer, I see no reason why
    you can't just get the files and unzip them yourself. However,
    many people prefer an installer and I've made it for them, not
    you, you're preference has already been taken care of. If you
    look around at other open source projects like Bochs you'll
    see that both an installer and a .zip are available surely you
    will agree to that? Why shouldn't everyone have it their way?
    Thanks,
    Christian Blackburn

     
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    Here is the actual install program, gasp.
    -Christian

     
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    I don't see my files here so I will try this again :).

     
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    Hmmm.... I still don't see my files listed here. Would one of
    the developers please confirm that they received the files?
    The InnoSetup Program, the app that compiles the install
    script can be downloaded here
    http://www.jrsoftware.org/isdlold.php.
    Thanks,
    Christian Blackburn

     
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    Ahh now I see the error message :). I guess my files are too
    large. This feature is probably only for screenshots the
    installer is only 547KB total. That's no big deal :). I'll post it
    here:
    Exe:
    http://www.rawsacramento.org/~christian/misc/DOS%
    20Box%200.57.exe
    Source:
    http://www.rawsacramento.org/~christian/misc/DOSBox%
    200.57%20Install.zip

    This is just a friendly reminder to close this bug as Fixed
    once the installer has been added to our file library.
    Thanks,
    Christian Blackburn

     
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    I stand corrected, this should go in the "RFE" section.
    Woops! I guess they probably need to rename that hyperlink -
    -> "Feature Requests".
    Sorry Guy,
    Christian Blackburn

     
  • Richard
    Richard
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    1.) Look at the top of this page and click on the link "Tracker".
    You will see a page which has links to the
    sections "bugs", "patches" and "feature request". It doesn't
    matter in which database the threads are stored, but there is
    a reason for this. It whould be a smart idea to put a feature
    request into the "feature request" section.

    2.) If you just click on the zip or open it with winzip/winrar and
    then extract it. You do NOT need to copy files, create
    shortcuts, create registry entries (dosbox dosen't have any,
    even if it whould have any, they whould be autocreated the
    first time you execute dosbox.exe) or create folders.
    Just click on extract, select the folder, execute dosbox.exe,
    done.

    You know what the problem is with installers? The spam your
    harddisk with junk. They create unwanted registry entries,
    they create unwanted entries in the uninstall menu, they
    create unwanted files + directories (installer files) and so on.
    For what reason do you need an installer? To extract 2 files
    and run "dosxbox.exe"?
    [sarcasm]You are right, thats too much for most people.
    [/sarcasm]

    Installers make sense for large programs like msvc++, with
    thousand of files/directories/reg-entries, but for programs with
    just one or two files, come on, its stupid.

    As long as there is a zip file version is avialable, I don't care.
    If people want this junk on their harddisk, they are free to do
    so.

    3.) Please do not create 5-6 replies. Everytime you reply here
    all people involved with this thread (me, you, qix79) get a
    mail. if you reply 5 times, I get 5 mails. So please think first
    and then write down all your thoughts in a single reply.

    thx

    trin

     
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    Hi Trinity,
    "It whould be a smart idea to put a feature request into
    the "feature request" section." - I just said I "stood
    corrected". Yes after clicking on Tracker it does say "feature
    request", but if you scroll up the page right now it
    reads "FRE" and I didn't know what that meant. Oh well.
    Perhaps an Admin (NOT ME) can rectify this.

    I am aware of the simplicity of your program and that it will
    work in a stand-alone manner. That is fantastic. Every icon
    shortcut and registry entry will be removed by my installer.
    Not only that, users have the option of creating no shortcuts
    in the start menu, and no desktop icons. Seems pretty
    flexible to me If there are registry entries added by your
    program please let me know where so that I can make the
    uninstaller remove them during it's uninstall process.

    What you are complaining about in relation to installers is
    bad installers and yes they do leave garbage behind.
    InnoSetup hardly qualifies as such, it won a 2002 shareware
    award (although it's freeware don't ask, I don't get that one
    either). We're an open source project I don't see any reason
    why the group of us can't make a good installer that doesn't
    leave ANYTHING behind.

    I also just updated the installer:
    I changed the file name to match your naming conventions.
    I removed the Readme.bat file by locating a shellexec
    command
    I moved the locations of the options (view the readme) and to
    (launch the Dosbox program) to the end of the installation
    I changed the properties so that the desktop shortcut if
    installed will have the current (since it's not that great) icon
    associated with it.

    Updated Binaries:
    Source:
    http://www.rawsacramento.org/~christian/misc/DosBox%
    200.57.2%20Install%20Source.zip

    End-User:
    http://www.rawsacramento.org/~christian/misc/dosbox-
    0.57.win32.exe

    As for getting all of the e-mails I'm sorry about that. I agree
    they shouldn't send you more than one notification until after
    you've gone back to the group and read previous articles.
    phpBB is that way. Also I wish it wouldn't send a notice of
    the notice me myself posted :). Oh well, I'm sure they'll work
    that in there one of these days.
    Adios Amigo,
    Christian

     
  • Peter Veenstra
    Peter Veenstra
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    The RFE name is something I'm not satisfied with either. But
    I didn't set it and I can't change it. (sourceforge set it.)

    Most of the post you made should be in feature requests. But
    I don't mind it very much :)

    Too bad you allready created so many you now have to redo
    them.

    The reply thing is true. even more for the feature request thing
    as my email adress is the default one :) It's somehting of
    sourceforge. I can't change it. (the replies everybody gets
    even if it's your own post :(

    The installer might be an idea. But i'm not sure about. We
    used to had a language file but we made that internal. We try
    to design dosbox so it's easy to use (although the
    experienced users can still create a language file and use it:)
    Maybe a installer will make dosbox evenmore difficult to use.
    on the other had i mailed somebody once a document which i
    had zipped and they didn't know what to do with it.