From: Steve Hall <digitect@mi...> - 2004-04-23 13:53:52
From: Elias Pschernig, Apr 23, 2004 5:11 AM
> I noticed, in cream, when I scroll some text, the cursor moves so it
> stays inside the visible text. In all other editors I know, the
> cursor doesn't change when scrolling, which I find much more useful.
> Can I get that behavior somehow? And why isn't it the default?
Unfortunately, this is a Vim limitation. It has been raised many times
on the list and I believe is now an option to vote on:
at the item:
"add option not to move the cursor when using a scrollbar"
And since we're discussion sponsoring Vim, now might be a good time to
promote this further. Vim's author, Bram Moolenaar, spends a great
deal of time and effort writing features and fixing bugs. At this very
moment, I am in two other threads with him working through two
problems that significantly impact Cream users. Please spend a few
dollars to support his efforts. (Who said Free software was free? :)
When you do, you get a chance to vote. There are a number of specific
items that Cream will be able to make use of if they are implemented:
"add the conceal patch from Vince Negri"
Cream binaries already have this, but we don't want to add Cream
features based on this until it's official. This would allow us to do
things like hiding all HTML tags, hiding the PHP code within HTML or
vice-versa, or hiding fold markers.
"add a portable GUI toolkit for nice dialogs in Vim script"
This item came about from my plea to provide just a few more controls
to dialog boxes, such as multiple inputs, radio buttons, check boxes,
and drop down lists. (Most Vim users could care less about this, but
Cream users could make great use of them!)
"add more features to Vim scripting (arrays, lists, sorting, etc)"
Cream stores, recalls, and processes a very wide amount of user
information. Arrays particularly, could double Cream's startup speed
and make some operations up to ten times faster.
"add intelligent, context-sensitive completion (intellisense)"
These are the little GUI boxes that can pop up for completion or
prototyping. Cream already has a few hacks to accomplish this, but a
single Vim solution would make things easier.
So sponsor Vim! (http://vim.sourceforge.net/sponsor/)
Steve Hall [ digitect@... ]
Cream... the Vim text editor in sheep's clothing!
From: Elias Pschernig <elias@us...> - 2004-04-23 14:13:29
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 15:53, Steve Hall wrote:
> From: Elias Pschernig, Apr 23, 2004 5:11 AM
> > I noticed, in cream, when I scroll some text, the cursor moves so it
> > stays inside the visible text. In all other editors I know, the
> > cursor doesn't change when scrolling, which I find much more useful.
> > Can I get that behavior somehow? And why isn't it the default?
> Unfortunately, this is a Vim limitation. It has been raised many times
> on the list and I believe is now an option to vote on:
> at the item:
> "add option not to move the cursor when using a scrollbar"
Ah, thanks. Should have searched the list archives I guess. But it
wasn't mentioned on this list in the last few months AFAICS. Anyway, the
sponsoring concept is a good idea - if I want this badly enough, I could
either send some money (if I had any), or spend the time (if I had any)
and fix it myself :)
Elias Pschernig <elias@...>