RE: [Bluemusic-users] couple of problems

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One more note. I was saving blue projects in my own directory structure, not
in the blue home folder. When I exit the program it asks me twice if I want
to save when I am not saving to the blue home folder. I wonder if this could
have something to do with the problems I am having.

also try this: add an instrument to the orchestra. Give it instrument number
3. Then add another instrument. It will come up with instrument number 2.
Double click on the second instrument to edit it, and your first instrument
is now 2, and your edited instrument is 3.

I think you may have a few wild indexes. I hope all your arrays have a
[0..n-1] range and not a [1..n] range. The latter are a programer's
nightmare, only made worse if you mix the two.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: blu...@li...
[mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of Michael
Rempel
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:46 AM
To: blu...@li...
Subject: RE: [Bluemusic-users] couple of problems

Oops, happened again. Sorry I sent you the CSD not the blue file.

Another clue that may have bearing, I did a File/Save and then exited by
saying no to the do you want to save dialog. I will investigate this myself
a bit further.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: blu...@li...
[mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of Michael
Rempel
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:10 AM
To: blu...@li...
Subject: RE: [Bluemusic-users] couple of problems

I think some of the temp files space got corrupted. Between Microsoft, sun
and my hard drive there is probably a lot of caching going on, and something
got corrupted. I saw an error message in the console window. A wipe of temp
space and a reboot seems to have cleared some of the problem for now. I will
let you know if it kills another one. In the meantime i am versioning my
saves.

I did notice for instance when I changed instrument numbers in the orchestra
section, that they reverted to other values, not even the old ones. I
changed them again, and it was fine, the changes took. In another place
(Generic phrase 2) I was sure I had done a cut and paste. I went back to it,
and nothing was there. I did the cut and paste again, and it stuck. My
pattern is change, save, build CSD. I usually open the csd in csedit to see
what happened to my revisions, build from there and listen to the wav file.
I will probably eventually change this to work just in Blue. At the moment I
want to use a familiar environment to cross check my work.

I have enclosed the blue files. The instruments are copies but I dont
remember where from. I seem to recall the piece was called back side of the
moon. I am just starting to work on messing it up. :-)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: blu...@li...
[mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of Steven
Yi
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:04 AM
To: blu...@li...
Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] couple of problems

Hi Michael,

Just to clarify, are you still having the problem or was it something
that is now gone?  I would just like to make sure everything is
working for you, and if not or if so, how to diagnose for future
problems.

As for the macros, that is very interesting that you shared this.  I
have been debating lately to write a score language myself, but I have
not yet explored in depth all of the other ones around.  One of the
things I had thought was to do a short hand system like your macros
where notation names are used.  I have explored the lilypond
typesetting program in the past and I was thinking the score language
it uses might be a good candidate to model on.

Oh, but also, blue is not very Csound macro friendly! =(  Mostly I
never got around to it as I rarely use Csound macros.  Using them in
pfields other than p1, p2, or p3 of a score may possibly work, but if
in the first three, may cause errors.  This is because blue parses all
score texts to read in note start and durations so that it can
translate and multiply those for when moving blocks around.  I'm
guessing if there is any space in your macro invocation, blue might
split the macro and then reassemble but with a tab in between, which
could cause a problem (not sure). Just something to be careful about.
If you do run into any problems using macros, please let me know.  I'd
be more than happy to take a look and see what can be done in blue's
score parser then.

Thanks,
steven

On 7/10/05, Michael Rempel <mic...@sh...> wrote:
> I think I had problems in the temporary file area.
>
> I was just doing the the usual simple score stuff.
>
> BTW, I use a macro I am enclosing. It is easier than remembering numbers.
>
> Feel free to use it.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blu...@li...
> [mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of Steven
> Yi
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:09 AM
> To: blu...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] couple of problems
>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> The project seems to be a pretty empty project file (the project files
> are XML btw, and can be viewed with a text editor).  I opened it,
> added a soundObject, saved it, closed the file, and reopened it
> without problems.  I'm on Linux, Java 1.5.0_02, PIII-M Laptop.
>
> Could you explain perhaps what kind of things you were doing in blue?
> One possibility I can think of is if there is an exception being
> thrown in the underlying blue code that isn't being caught somewhere,
> it could mess up blue such that blue would seem to be continuing to
> operate correctly but not really.  This is a possibility, and if it
> was to happen, the command line prompt that opens up before blue's UI
> opens up should have a flurry of messages pass by with a java stack
> trace.
>
> steven
>
>
> On 7/10/05, Michael Rempel <mic...@sh...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blu...@li...
> > [mailto:blu...@li...]On Behalf Of Steven
> > Yi
> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:35 AM
> > To: blu...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] couple of problems
> >
> >
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Thanks for the info regarding SHARC.  It's not been around for a long
> > while now but zip's or tar's of the SHARC project can be found online
> > through google.  I had to use google a few months ago to find it
> > myself; I'll try to update my csounds site with a new link shortly.
> >
> > As for the file saving feature, I've never experienced such a thing or
> > have had any reports to me about this happening.  Are there any
> > strange file permissions going on for either file you're trying to
> > save or the directory you are saving to?  I think blue would give an
> > error message though if it couldn't save the file... hmm.  Could you
> > maybe send me a copy of the file you were working on when this
> > happened?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > steven
> >
> >
> > On 7/10/05, Michael Rempel <mic...@sh...> wrote:
> > > Hi Steven
> > >
> > > I was poking around on your csounds site. The link to SHARC is dead
from
> > > here.
> > >
> > > Also I was using version .98 of blue. I am quite impressed, very well
> > > thought out program.
> > >
> > > I have trouble saving. Things that I change revert to former states,
and
> I
> > > just lost an entire project. Now it could be I am not familiar with
this
> > > thing yet. But I did a save and exited the program only to discover
that
> > the
> > > only thing that was saved is the instrument library. All my score
stuff
> is
> > > missing.
> > >
> > > I can do an edit, and save, then go back to that item and find that
some
> > or
> > > all of my edits have reverted to their former state.
> > >
> > > I just downloaded the .99 version which I hope will help solve these
> > issues,
> > > but I did not see this discussed in the changes so I thought I better
> send
> > a
> > > note.
> > >
> > > TIA for your help
> > >
> > > Michael Rempel
> > >
> > > Intel 4 2.53Ghz 512 Meg ram
> > >
> > > Running Windows 2000 pro with SP 4
> > >
> > > C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1>java -version >ver.txt
> > > java version "1.5.0_02"
> > > Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_02-b09)
> > > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_02-b09, mixed mode, sharing)
> > >
> > >
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