Sorry, that's 'oscbnk' opcode. 

P

On 18 December 2012 22:59, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Steven, 

For some reason here the trackpad only works for vertical scroll, not for horizontal. For instance, this seems to be a problem with the 'oscil' opcode entry (see attached picture fr detail). Also if I want to copy and paste a line from the documentation window (which I do a lot), the page closes. Or if I want to keep the page open to remember what the variables are as I type the code in... Also the icons at the top of that window (the left and right arrows, supposedly for going forward and back) don't work because the window closes. In this case it doesn't really make sense for them to be there.

Best,
Peiman   


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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:39:16 +0000
From: Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] [Csnd] [announce] blue 2.3.2
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Hi Peiman,

You should be able to use a trackpad to scroll around the
documentation in the window.  There's a feature of the library where
you can use the button on the documentation to open up the doc in a
browser.  I'll see about enabling that as well as if there is an
option for resizing.

Thanks!
steven

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:47 PM, peiman khosravi
<peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steven,
>
> How do you open the manual page for a selected opcode now? Maybe my new
> laptop has a different keyboard setting but I can't get it to work.
>
> Also, when doing ctrl+space (very nice by the way) the manual page that
> opens is too small even on my 13inch laptop. Moreover, as soon as I click
> anywhere inside the manual page, the pop-up window disappears (so I can open
> a link to a new opcode for example). And I can't scroll up or down by
> clicking. It would be nice if the window closed by pressing esc and/or
> clicking outside the pop-up window. And it would be nice if the pop-up
> window could be resized by dragging its's bottom right corner. The new size
> would then be remembered for the next pop-up window.
>
> Let me know if you would like me to add any feature requests.
>
> Thanks,
> Peiman
>
>
>
> On 16 December 2012 17:03, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've released a bug fix release of blue, available at:
>>
>> http://blue.kunstmusik.com
>>
>> This release fixes issues with code completion stopping working, as
>> well as the code completion entries being incomplete due to bad
>> parsing.  This also fixes up reported issues in some of the pieces
>> that come with blue.
>>
>> ChangeLog is below.  Users of 2.3.1 are recommended to update.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
>> [CHANGE LOG]
>>
>> >Notes for 2.3.2<
>> [released 2012.12.16]
>>
>> FIX
>>
>> * Editors would lose ability to use code completion after leaving and
>> coming
>> back to Editor
>>
>> * Code completion items did not parser opcodes.xml correctly, resulting in
>> incomplete signature completions and missing entries
>>
>> * modified code in Brian Wong's "Falltan" and "Tritium Tea", as well as
>> Dave
>> Seidel's "Palimpsest" to work with Csound new parser
>>
>>
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:11:43 +0000
From: Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] [Csnd] [announce] blue 2.3.2
To: blue users mailing list <bluemusic-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
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Hi Peiman,

I didn't see any possibilities to resize the documentation popup.  I
did manage to enable the open in browser button though and get links
to work.  I've updated the beta at:

http://kunstmusik.com/blue_OSX_2.3.3_beta.zip

Could you try that and let me know how it goes for you?

Thanks!
steven

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Peiman,
>
> You should be able to use a trackpad to scroll around the
> documentation in the window.  There's a feature of the library where
> you can use the button on the documentation to open up the doc in a
> browser.  I'll see about enabling that as well as if there is an
> option for resizing.
>
> Thanks!
> steven
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:47 PM, peiman khosravi
> <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Steven,
>>
>> How do you open the manual page for a selected opcode now? Maybe my new
>> laptop has a different keyboard setting but I can't get it to work.
>>
>> Also, when doing ctrl+space (very nice by the way) the manual page that
>> opens is too small even on my 13inch laptop. Moreover, as soon as I click
>> anywhere inside the manual page, the pop-up window disappears (so I can open
>> a link to a new opcode for example). And I can't scroll up or down by
>> clicking. It would be nice if the window closed by pressing esc and/or
>> clicking outside the pop-up window. And it would be nice if the pop-up
>> window could be resized by dragging its's bottom right corner. The new size
>> would then be remembered for the next pop-up window.
>>
>> Let me know if you would like me to add any feature requests.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peiman
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 December 2012 17:03, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've released a bug fix release of blue, available at:
>>>
>>> http://blue.kunstmusik.com
>>>
>>> This release fixes issues with code completion stopping working, as
>>> well as the code completion entries being incomplete due to bad
>>> parsing.  This also fixes up reported issues in some of the pieces
>>> that come with blue.
>>>
>>> ChangeLog is below.  Users of 2.3.1 are recommended to update.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> steven
>>>
>>> [CHANGE LOG]
>>>
>>> >Notes for 2.3.2<
>>> [released 2012.12.16]
>>>
>>> FIX
>>>
>>> * Editors would lose ability to use code completion after leaving and
>>> coming
>>> back to Editor
>>>
>>> * Code completion items did not parser opcodes.xml correctly, resulting in
>>> incomplete signature completions and missing entries
>>>
>>> * modified code in Brian Wong's "Falltan" and "Tritium Tea", as well as
>>> Dave
>>> Seidel's "Palimpsest" to work with Csound new parser
>>>
>>>
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>>>             https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:44:13 -0500
From: Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bluemusic-users] blue 2.3.1 on Ubuntu
To: blue users mailing list <bluemusic-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
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Seems to be working just fine, Steven. I actually downloaded and installed
it in the middle of the day, and opened my project and left it sitting.
Came back to it several times, and the sound layer control area is working
as expected. Thanks very much!

- Dave


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Steven. I will give it a try this evening after work.
>
> - Dave
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> I've placed betas up online at:
>>
>> http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue_2.3.3_beta.zip
>> http://www.kunstmusik.com/blue_OSX_2.3.3_beta.zip
>>
>> If you could give that a go and let me know if the problem arises,
>> that'd be great.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Will do, Steven, thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Dave,
>> >>
>> >> I think I may have a fix. I'll place a beta zip up online tomorrow. If
>> you
>> >> could test and help verify that'd be great.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> Steven
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 17, 2012 6:15 PM, "Dave Seidel" <dave.seidel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks, Steven!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Dave,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for filing that bug.  I'm going to take a look at this tonight
>> >>>> and fix one other but that was reported and will plan to do another
>> >>>> bugfix release (tomorrow if tonight goes well).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As for the PythonProcessor, yes it operates like the python objects
>> in
>> >>>> that the interpreter is maintained between runs.  It's a feature of
>> >>>> blue really.  I myself code my projects much in the same way you
>> >>>> described and in presentations have likened it to modern score
>> >>>> notation (composer defines new symbols in the preface of a score,
>> then
>> >>>> uses them in the score).  There shouldn't be any problems to define
>> in
>> >>>> a python object then just call it in the noteProcessor.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>> steven
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I started with standard Ubuntu, but then switched to Xubuntu pretty
>> >>>> > quickly
>> >>>> > -- din't really like the Unity desktop, and xfce is just fine with
>> me.
>> >>>> > Finally bit the bullet with Jack last night (ditched pulseeaudio),
>> and
>> >>>> > as of
>> >>>> > a little while ago, even got it going in realtime mode. So I'm
>> pretty
>> >>>> > happy
>> >>>> > with the environment at this point. It helps that I started playing
>> >>>> > with Red
>> >>>> > Hat in 2000, used Fedora and CentOS full-time at my last job, and
>> >>>> > continue
>> >>>> > to deploy to CentOS in my current job, so I didn't have to go
>> >>>> > cold-turkey in
>> >>>> > a completely unfamiliar OS.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I hadn't considered using a PythonProcessor with PianoRoll; in fact
>> >>>> > I've
>> >>>> > never used PythonProcessor. I guess I don't tend to use note
>> >>>> > processors very
>> >>>> > much. I've found that I tend to forget about them after they're set
>> >>>> > because
>> >>>> > there's no visual indication of their presence except in the
>> >>>> > SoundObject
>> >>>> > Properties dialog, which I don't usually have visible. So yeah, I
>> like
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > idea of pulling the NoteProcessors up into a less hidden part of
>> the
>> >>>> > UI. I
>> >>>> > don't have any specific ideas on how that might work, but if I
>> come up
>> >>>> > with
>> >>>> > some I'll certainly share them.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Anyway, using a PythonProcessor makes perfect sense in with a
>> >>>> > PianoRoll, it
>> >>>> > just had never occurred to me. Thanks for the info and the sample
>> >>>> > code! I
>> >>>> > still like the idea of being able to access the pfields as named
>> >>>> > tokens as
>> >>>> > in BSB code (e.g.: <p1>), but it's probably not worth the
>> development
>> >>>> > effort
>> >>>> > since PythonProcessor should work really well. Can I assume the the
>> >>>> > code in
>> >>>> > the processors will execute in the same instance/namespace as
>> >>>> > PythonObjects
>> >>>> > on the timeline? I rely on this when I define constants and
>> functions
>> >>>> > on one
>> >>>> > PythonObject which I then reference in other PythonObjects.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thanks for the tip on switching between projects as a workaround
>> >>>> > instead on
>> >>>> > closing/reopening the project. I'll see if that helps the next
>> time I
>> >>>> > experience the issue (assuming it isn't magically fixed in 2.3.2).
>> And
>> >>>> > I
>> >>>> > will write up a bug for it. It's not just the buttons (mute, solo,
>> >>>> > ...) --
>> >>>> > when the project gets into this state, it blocks other
>> functionality
>> >>>> > in the
>> >>>> > label/control areas of the layers. For example, right-click menu is
>> >>>> > gone,
>> >>>> > and so is the ability to double-click to name the layer.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > - Dave
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Hi Dave!
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Glad you like the new editor, and glad you're enjoying Ubuntu as
>> >>>> >> well!
>> >>>> >>  I've been meaning to make my Macbook dualboot to Xubuntu some
>> time
>> >>>> >> but haven't gotten around to setting that up. I'm using Xubuntu
>> now
>> >>>> >> in
>> >>>> >> a VM for testing.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> For the mute/solo problems, I have had this happen in 2.3.0 but I
>> >>>> >> thought I had fixed it in 2.3.1 with offloading onLoad of python
>> >>>> >> scripts to a separate thread.  It looks like this wasn't the root
>> >>>> >> cause of the problem.  My trouble with this is that the bug has
>> been
>> >>>> >> intermittent and very difficult to consistently reproduce.  I've
>> >>>> >> found
>> >>>> >> that I didn't have to close the project, but could just switch to
>> >>>> >> another one and come back for it to sort itself out.  I'll see if
>> I
>> >>>> >> can do some more bug hunting on this one; if you would file a bug
>> >>>> >> though, that would help me out very much.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> For the PianoRoll, have you considered using a Python
>> NoteProcessor?
>> >>>> >> You should be able to use that to transform the generated notes
>> from
>> >>>> >> the PianoRoll and essentially use it just as input data to your
>> >>>> >> functions.  (I've attached an example that uses the PianoRoll as a
>> >>>> >> source of pitch data and then generates random notes.)
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Using the Python NoteProcessor code editor can be a bit of a pain
>> to
>> >>>> >> keep going into the editor and back out to test.  I had been
>> meaning
>> >>>> >> to modify NoteProcessors for some time to no longer use the
>> property
>> >>>> >> editor but instead have their own user interfaces and make a
>> >>>> >> rack-like
>> >>>> >> interface for them.  Perhaps this would be something worth
>> planning
>> >>>> >> out for a new release. Even then, I'm not sure what the code
>> editor
>> >>>> >> part should look like.  Would love to hear ideas at this point. :)
>> >>>> >> (Also, I had planned to make NoteProcessors have something like
>> >>>> >> BlueSynthBuilder, but where users can design their own processors,
>> >>>> >> does this sound of interest to anyone?)
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Let me know what you think, and thanks as always for your music!
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> steven
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> p.s. - I hope you don't mind, I modified Palimpsest to fix a code
>> >>>> >> issue with newer Csounds and the # not being allowed for comments
>> (it
>> >>>> >> was in the global score with the tempo statement).
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Dave Seidel <
>> dave.seidel@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > Hi Steven,
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > I've been using blue on Ubuntu for a couple of months now
>> (Windows
>> >>>> >> > laptop
>> >>>> >> > died, a good excuse to switch). I'm using Quantal Quetzal
>> (12.10).
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > It's generally working really well. I *really* like the new
>> editor!
>> >>>> >> > It's
>> >>>> >> > a
>> >>>> >> > great improvement.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > An issue: I've had a number of times when I change the settings
>> of
>> >>>> >> > solo/mute
>> >>>> >> > buttons in the timeline layers and they won't "take": i.e., no
>> >>>> >> > change to
>> >>>> >> > the
>> >>>> >> > CSD output generated either to screen or disk. When that
>> happens, I
>> >>>> >> > have
>> >>>> >> > to
>> >>>> >> > close and reopen the project, then it's fine for a while. I
>> don't
>> >>>> >> > have a
>> >>>> >> > particular set of actions that provokes it. It's happened in
>> more
>> >>>> >> > than
>> >>>> >> > one
>> >>>> >> > project.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > And a feature request: I would love to be have a version of the
>> >>>> >> > PianoRoll
>> >>>> >> > that generates a line of Python code instead of a line of
>> orchestra
>> >>>> >> > code
>> >>>> >> > (using the same templating you already have). The Python code
>> would
>> >>>> >> > then
>> >>>> >> > be
>> >>>> >> > rendered just like a PythonObject. My process these days almost
>> >>>> >> > invariably
>> >>>> >> > involves writing a series of Python functions in one
>> PythonObject
>> >>>> >> > that
>> >>>> >> > are
>> >>>> >> > called by other PythonObjects to generate orchestra code. It
>> would
>> >>>> >> > be
>> >>>> >> > fantastic to be able to call those functions from with a
>> PianoRoll.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > As always, thanks for all of your work and dedication.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > - Dave
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