Re: [Audacity-translation] Dutch Vocal Removal FAQ

[Thomas De R. <tho...@ho...>]

Hi Gale

The translation is correct. Thanks for committing it!

Regards

Thomas

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> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:37:04 +0000
> From: ga...@au...
> To: aud...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Audacity-translation] Dutch Vocal Removal FAQ
>
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> OK, if you are now sure "Inverteren" is the better long-term solution,
> let's go with that, but the web site has to note this (until 1.3.13 Beta
> is released, what the Dutch FAQ says now is incorrect for any released
> version of Audacity).
>
> Rather than send more .po files around, I propose translating the
> offending line for this FAQ in the web site .po as:
>
> Kies “Inverteren” van het Effecten-menu (“Spiegelen” in Audacity
> 1.3.12 of eerder)
>
> Let me know if the translation is accurate, if so I'll commit it. If not,
> please correct it.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Gale
>
>
> | From Thomas De Rocker 
> | Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:46:52 +0100
> | Subject: [Audacity-translation] Dutch Vocal Removal FAQ
> > Sorry, link only points to one file... google docs is confusing sometimes. This should be the right one:
> > https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BxDNGmSKzQGkNTI2NmRlN2MtMTlmOS00YTY2LWI1MjEtMTI0MmRkNmVmMTNm&hl=nl
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > From: tho...@ho...
> > > To: aud...@li...
> > > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:43:35 +0100
> > > Subject: Re: [Audacity-translation] Dutch Vocal Removal FAQ
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Gale
> > >
> > > I updated the po files of the program and the site. They can be found here:
> > >
> > > https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BxDNGmSKzQGkZTRjYTg2YTUtNGRkYi00NTI5LTg2ZTktOTEyMGZmNzJlNTI4&hl=nl
> > >
> > > I decided to go with "inverteren". Like I said, "spiegelen" means "to mirror".
> > > "Inverteren" really means to turn upside down (or inside out).
> > >
> > > And no, there are no differences in interpretation of Belgian Dutch (Flemish)
> > > and Dutch. Only the pronunciation of words is different.
> > > It's like the difference between British English and American English...
> > > Flemish is more like British, Dutch more like American.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:18:51 +0000
> > > > From: ga...@au...
> > > > To: aud...@li...
> > > > Subject: Re: [Audacity-translation] Dutch Vocal Removal FAQ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > | From Thomas De Rocker
> > > > | Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:42:40 +0100
> > > > | Subject: [Audacity-translation] Dutch Vocal Removal FAQ
> > > > > I don't know which translation is the right one...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Spiegelen" literally means "to mirror". "Inverteren" is the same as
> > > > > invert in English.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sometimes it's a little difficult to know the difference between "invert" and
> > > > > "revert/reverse". I suppose "revert" means to play something backwards,
> > > > > and invert means turning the phase of the waveform (turning the wave
> > > > > upside down)?
> > > >
> > > > Yes exactly (in our usage). Our software translation of Reverse (turn
> > > > backwards, so that the right is on the left ) is "Omkeren".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > For the professional audio editors out there, I think "inverteren" is a
> > > > > more common used expression. (But to be honest, i am not 100% sure...)
> > > >
> > > > When I looked on Google translate, "Omkeren" came up as the only
> > > > possibility for "Invert", but also as a secondary possibility for
> > > > "Reverse" (the main suggestion was "Terugdraaien"). Are there any
> > > > differences of interpretation between native and Belgian Dutch?
> > > >
> > > > I too would think that "Inverteren" would be better, if it is understood
> > > > to mean "upside down". On the other hand, changing a long-established
> > > > term isn't always a good idea if it did not create confusion before. The
> > > > only complaints I've ever seen about this have been that the web site
> > > > states a menu item that does not exist, not that "Spiegelen" is
> > > > misunderstood.
> > > >
> > > > Your call, as long as web site and software match. I'd prefer to leave
> > > > as now, on the whole. We can't change the 1.2 translation, so if
> > > > we change 1.3 the web site will be incorrect for some users until 2.0,
> > > > whatever word we use there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gale
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:31:45 +0000
> > > > > > From: ga...@au...
> > > > > > To: aud...@li...
> > > > > > Subject: [Audacity-translation] Dutch Vocal Removal FAQ
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=editing&i=remove-vocals<=nl
> > > > > >
> > > > > > says to use "Inverteren" at step 4, but in any 1.2.6 or 1.3.x version the
> > > > > > "Invert" effect is translated as "Spiegelen". So I changed "Inverteren"
> > > > > > to "Spiegelen" in the nl.po file for the site and committed it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assuming you agree this is the best way to handle this, please make that
> > > > > > change in your own copy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gale
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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