From: Mike Farley <mikefarley@on...> - 2006-12-22 08:54:39
That's an interesting point, Sami - I'll have to try your .wav method and see if it
improves things for me.
I take your point about VBR - it usually does produce better results, esp. on
harmonically complex music, which mine mostly is. I wish I could use it (come to that, I
wish I could use ogg vorbis)(or pretty much anything but MP3!!) but as I said to Josh,
I'm tied to MP3 at 192kbps CBR by my download publisher's software. If you send anything
else, the upload robot bounces it right back at you - it never even gets listened to by
Thanks for your, comments, though - definitely food for thought!
-------- Original Message --------
From: "Sami Jumppanen" <sami.jumppanen@...>
To: "Discussion list for Audacity users" <audacity-users@...>
Subject: Re:[Audacity-users] [Fwd: Re: MP3 Export]
Date: 22/12/2006 08:15
> just a note/warning about MP3 export in Audacity: my general advice is
> NOT to use it at all. If not for anything else, then for the lack of
> "joint-stereo" encoding mode selection. I always export to (multiple)
> wav files and THEN use LAME with the settings that produce good
> I have verified it a number of times that "Stereo" mode encoding (both
> channels are encoded independently) produces harsh or grainy high end
> (treble). 192k stereo can sound really messy - even on cheap
> headphones - when comprared to, say 160k joint-stereo. It depends a
> bit on the source, but usually I have no problem spotting mp3 files
> with non-joint-stereo mode. They waste the bandwidth with very
> annoying way.
> As a hint, "a worth trying kinda thing": I've found LAME's ABR
> (average bitrate) option useful. For my own music demos I set minimum
> bitrate to "none", maximum to 192 or 224 and average to 155 .. 165. It
> gives a good bandwidth/quality ratio. Although I haven't done
> extensive comparison against CBR, I believe the difficult parts
> benefit from VBR encoding.
> Windows 2000, LAMEr front-end
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