From: Vaughan Johnson <vjohnson@co...> - 2004-03-01 22:25:23
Anthony Airon Oetzmann wrote:
>I tested Audacity with a few sound design sessions in the past days and all
>went fine, without hickups. The naming of the effects "Change
>Pitch/Tempo/Speed" did throw me off though.
Tony, thanks for the observations. It was too late for any changes to
1.2.0, but let's discuss how best to change them in future. I don't have
much experience in other audio editors, especially pro-level, so these
were sui generis, what seemed good to me, with much input from Dominic.
>Change Pitch - fine. No problems there realy, even though the effect layout
>was something I'd never seen before in other pitchers.
Sounds okay, but let me know if you'd like some other controls. I think
the pitch-naming stuff rocks, and may even be unique (thanks to Dominic
for the pitch-figuring-out code!).
>Change Tempo - This is actualy called "Timestrech/compress" everywhere
>else. I honestly had no idea what this effect did untill I tested it. Quite
>misleading to me as a user who has come in contact with a few audio
>applications already. Keep in mind that I haven't used Audacity in a long
>time and this was a fresh approach to the effects line. Most of the work in
>Audacity was very intuitive. I can see grouping effects together being a
>good thing, but this can be achieved in other ways too. A sub menu or one
>big effect with a drop down list of the three variants called 'Pitch &
>Time' for example.
I'm not entirely happy with the "Change" convention, either, because it
doesn't actually distinguish the pitch-&-time-related effects from the
others. We've talked about re-grouping effects before, but to do it
automatically for plug-ins is tricky, & I think that's why we didn't do
any re-grouping yet. But these are built-in, so we can go ahead. I'll
think about conglomerating them into one dialog box -- I think tabs
would be appropriate.
>Change Speed - Same as above. It made me, the all-expecting user, think
>very hard what this is. It tells me the same as above, so the only way to
>find out what it is, is to test it. Loss of intuitive use points there.
Well, actually, at the top of each of these dialogs it says, for
instance, "Change Speed, affecting both Tempo and Pitch", or "Change
Tempo without Changing Pitch". I thought those were clear. No?
What name would you prefer for Change Speed? "Speed" was chosen because
the effect is like changing tape speed, or phonograph speed (the vinyl
settings). "Tempo" is meter, nothing to do with hardware, so we are sort
of mixing metaphors, but I think the distinction is clear to musicians,
and "Time Stretch" might be less so. Probably good to put "Time Stretch"
in the description, at least.