Thread: [Audacity-devel] I can Help with translations.
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From: Ezequiel <ez...@so...> - 2002-04-30 14:11:30
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Hi... My name is Ezequiel Plaza, 25 years old, from Argentina. I recently downloaded your software, and is the best I've seen so far among GPL or freeware sound editors. I have Win95, K6-266Mhz, and only 32MB RAM, but said, what the heck, I'll try it, at most it will not work. Some times I see good free software on their first stages, and I would like to help but I don't know how or something worse: I don't know for sure if that software will always be free, so I decide not to help because I don't want to give effort for free to some people who will profit with it. Is frustrating and disappointing and makes me mad when they suddenly change and start charging. Well... call me naive but I sensed good intention from you, and saw your software has grate potential (although is already good), so that made me want to help. I thought on helping with graphics, but the interface is clean and nice, so I could only make suggestions, and I don't think that's the kind of help you want (or could be?). I think you prefer people doing than talking (by the way sorry if I'm talking too much). So what I thought I could be helpful on is writing the translation to "Spanish". I don't know if you already have someone to do it. I have to tell you that I'm studying a lot this days so maybe I will not be able to translate it all in one month, but the help file is not very long. I could of course translate all the menus and messages within the interface. So all I need to know is how I can help you with this. You may have noticed I'm not the best writing english, but have for sure that I understand it perfectly to translate it to spanish. I have been chatting a lot with people from US and from other english speaking countries. I understand technical words that should not be translated like "sample rate", "track", "plug-in", may be explained but not translated. And all that I told you I'm studying is from english manuals. Well... greetings, and I hope I can be helpful, and wish the best for this program and it's evolution. P.S.: please, the GPL license... don't make me translate that, let me download the already translated version. But seriously, let me know what you would like to do about it. |
From: Matt B. <mbr...@cs...> - 2002-04-30 18:00:00
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> So what I thought I could be helpful on is writing the translation to > "Spanish". I don't know if you already have someone to do it. Hi! We've just started translating Audacity into other languages. Here is a web page with more information: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/translation/ We have one volunteer working on Spanish translation of the user's manual, and we can certainly use more. If you would like to join us, subscribe to the translation mailing list and send a brief message introducing yourself. You can read the previous messages in the list archive: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/21133/25 > Well... greetings, and I hope I can be helpful, and wish the best for > this program and it's evolution. We appreciate your interest. By the way, feel free to send suggestions or comments to audacity-devel at ay time. |
From: Joshua H. <jha...@up...> - 2002-04-30 19:04:16
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Hi, thanks for volunteering! * Ezequiel (ez...@so...) wrote: > P.S.: please, the GPL license... don't make me translate that, let me > download the already translated version. But seriously, let me know what > you would like to do about it. It's very important that you *don't* translate the GPL. For one thing, it is prohibited by the licence of the GPL itself: "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed." Secondly, since the license is the legal agreement that governs distribution of the program, any subtle mistranslation would inadvertantly change these terms. Joshua -- Joshua Haberman <jo...@ha...> |
From: Matt B. <mbr...@cs...> - 2002-04-30 19:37:11
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On Apr 30, Joshua Haberman wrote: > It's very important that you *don't* translate the GPL. For this reason, the FSF published "unofficial" translations of their licensenses which are not to be used for licensing but are made available to assist in understanding of the license terms: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/translations.html |
From: Joshua H. <jha...@up...> - 2002-04-30 19:51:35
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* Matt Brubeck (mbr...@cs...) wrote: > _______________________________________________________________ > > Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply > the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: ban...@so... Whoa, is this your sig or did SourceForge tack this on? Joshua -- Joshua Haberman <jo...@ha...> |
From: Matt B. <mbr...@cs...> - 2002-04-30 19:58:27
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On Apr 30, Joshua Haberman wrote: > > Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply > > the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: ban...@so... > > Whoa, is this your sig or did SourceForge tack this on? That was SourceForge. It's not the first time: http://advogato.org/article/455.html |
From: Joshua H. <jha...@up...> - 2002-04-30 19:57:24
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* To Audacity (jha...@up...) wrote: > * Matt Brubeck (mbr...@cs...) wrote: > > _______________________________________________________________ > > > > Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply > > the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: ban...@so... > > Whoa, is this your sig or did SourceForge tack this on? > > Joshua > > -- > Joshua Haberman <jo...@ha...> > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply > the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: ban...@so... Well I guess that answers my question. I don't really have a problem with it, since it's asking for a donation to sustain what we're already getting for free. Interesting to see though. Joshua -- Joshua Haberman <jo...@ha...> |
From: Dominic M. <do...@mi...> - 2002-04-30 21:23:54
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>>>Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. >>>We supply the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: >>>ban...@so... Wow, that is interesting. I don't blame SF for advertising their own services, or things that they need, but it's a bit of a surprise. It might not be a bad idea to think about what we would do if SF bit the dust. [I just downloaded our nightly CVS tarball again, just in case!] I think that if Audacity started accepting donations, we'd get some money. As long as we're only looking for help with hosting and bandwidth, a little bit would go a long way. For example, dreamhost.com offers their "Code Warrior" package for $39.95 a month, which would offer us a CVS repository, nearly 1 GB of storage, 7 domains, and lots of mail accounts. I'm currently using them for my web site and personal email, and I'm very happy with their service. (Yes, I know they have downtime. What makes all the difference in the world is how they respond when you tell them something's down. They're usually already on top of it, and they're always honest.) If we got even more money, I think it would be fair to use it to subsidize higher-end audio hardware for us to play with. If I had an 8-channel audio card, you'd better believe I'd spend a weekend getting Audacity to support it! Anyway, I don't think we're at that point yet, but we should definitely think about: * What we would do if Sourceforge suddenly shut down, or suddenly dropped their quality of service below an acceptable threshold * What we would do if Sourceforge started charging * Independent of that, when and how we should start accepting donations. - Dominic Joshua Haberman wrote: > * To Audacity (jha...@up...) wrote: > >>* Matt Brubeck (mbr...@cs...) wrote: >> >>>_______________________________________________________________ >>> >>>Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply >>>the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: ban...@so... >> >>Whoa, is this your sig or did SourceForge tack this on? >> >>Joshua >> >>-- >>Joshua Haberman <jo...@ha...> >> >>_______________________________________________________________ >> >>Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply >>the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: ban...@so... > > > Well I guess that answers my question. I don't really have a problem > with it, since it's asking for a donation to sustain what we're already > getting for free. Interesting to see though. > > Joshua > |
From: Matt B. <mbr...@cs...> - 2002-04-30 22:08:52
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On Apr 30, Dominic Mazzoni wrote: > It might not be a bad idea to think about what we would do if > SF bit the dust. There are some sourceforge-like services run by non-profit groups. Most of them were started by collectives of free software projects like us who were worried about relying on SourceForge. We might want to look at SEUL (Simple End-User Linux). They provide all the services we use at sf.net, and look like a very good fit for Audacity: http://www.seul.org/pub/hosting.html If we were hosted by a non-profit group like SEUL, we could contribute some of our donations toward the hosting costs. |
From: Joshua H. <jha...@up...> - 2002-04-30 22:19:57
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* Matt Brubeck (mbr...@cs...) wrote: > On Apr 30, Dominic Mazzoni wrote: > > > It might not be a bad idea to think about what we would do if > > SF bit the dust. > > There are some sourceforge-like services run by non-profit groups. This reminds me of savannah.gnu.org, which we would also qualify for (you don't have to be a GNU project to use savannah). Joshua -- Joshua Haberman <jo...@ha...> |
From: Joshua H. <jha...@up...> - 2002-04-30 22:13:19
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* Dominic Mazzoni (do...@mi...) wrote: > For example, dreamhost.com offers their "Code Warrior" package > for $39.95 a month, which would offer us a CVS repository, > nearly 1 GB of storage, 7 domains, and lots of mail accounts. Here's something I think could be a good alternative to consider. http://www.johncompanies.com/collocation/ You get root on an extremely fast FreeBSD 4.5 box, 2GB hard drive space, and 40GB bandwidth. Underneath it's virtualized, so that you are actually sharing the box with other people, but from reports I've read on kuro5hin.org it's so fast you'd never know. It's $65/month, but it says "please ask about special discounts available to open-source software developers," so perhaps we should inquire. Perhaps this discount would make it as cheap as dreamhost.com. Reports on kuro5hin also attest to their service being top-notch. > Anyway, I don't think we're at that point yet, but we should > definitely think about: > > * What we would do if Sourceforge suddenly shut down, or > suddenly dropped their quality of service below an acceptable > threshold > > * What we would do if Sourceforge started charging > > * Independent of that, when and how we should start accepting > donations. I've heard paypal trashed a lot in forums lately, and I don't know of any other way to transfer money easily online. I would trust any active developer to take and administer donations on behalf of the team. Joshua -- Joshua Haberman <jo...@ha...> |
From: Logan L. <pr...@pr...> - 2002-05-01 01:29:01
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The logistics of taking donations pretty much requires that one person handle receiving the money and taking care of the account, without setting up a mini-organization to do it. Taxes must be taken out (techincally) and paid for by that individual, provided one doesn't go through the effort to make a non-profit organization (which would allow donors to use it as a write-off). The most logical person would be Dominic, if he's willing to take up another task. I would normally doubt how many donations Audacity would recieve, but I just took a look at the download statistics of the latest version (0.98b for Win, 0.98 for everything else), and it's received about 270,000 downloads. If even 50 people donated from those downloads, Audacity could easily make up its bandwidth costs. Pay pal, money order, and check would be the most convenient way to accept payment. Even if Sourceforge doesn't start charging (or go out of business) in the near future, it might still be useful to start building up the money. If Sourceforge has a sudden closing, I have a personal dedicated Linux server on a T1 I'd be happy to donate for hosting, at least until a new service is found. If nothing else I can be a mirror. I'm sure one of us can find reasonably-priced long term hosting with the features Audacity requires. Logan > Wow, that is interesting. I don't blame SF for advertising their own > services, or things that they need, but it's a bit of a surprise. > > It might not be a bad idea to think about what we would do if > SF bit the dust. > > [I just downloaded our nightly CVS tarball again, just in case!] > > I think that if Audacity started accepting donations, we'd get > some money. As long as we're only looking for help with > hosting and bandwidth, a little bit would go a long way. > > For example, dreamhost.com offers their "Code Warrior" package > for $39.95 a month, which would offer us a CVS repository, > nearly 1 GB of storage, 7 domains, and lots of mail accounts. > I'm currently using them for my web site and personal email, > and I'm very happy with their service. (Yes, I know they > have downtime. What makes all the difference in the world is > how they respond when you tell them something's down. They're > usually already on top of it, and they're always honest.) > > If we got even more money, I think it would be fair to use > it to subsidize higher-end audio hardware for us to play > with. If I had an 8-channel audio card, you'd better believe > I'd spend a weekend getting Audacity to support it! > > Anyway, I don't think we're at that point yet, but we should > definitely think about: > > * What we would do if Sourceforge suddenly shut down, or > suddenly dropped their quality of service below an acceptable > threshold > > * What we would do if Sourceforge started charging > > * Independent of that, when and how we should start accepting > donations. > > - Dominic > > Joshua Haberman wrote: > > * To Audacity (jha...@up...) wrote: > >>* Matt Brubeck (mbr...@cs...) wrote: > >>>_______________________________________________________________ > >>> > >>>Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We > >>> supply the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: > >>> ban...@so... > >> > >>Whoa, is this your sig or did SourceForge tack this on? > >> > >>Joshua > >> > >>-- > >>Joshua Haberman <jo...@ha...> > >> > >>_______________________________________________________________ > >> > >>Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We > >> supply the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: > >> ban...@so... > > > > Well I guess that answers my question. I don't really have a problem > > with it, since it's asking for a donation to sustain what we're already > > getting for free. Interesting to see though. > > > > Joshua > > _______________________________________________________________ > > Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply > the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: > ban...@so..._______________________________________________ > Audacity-devel mailing list > Aud...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel |