Time to upgrade. The day you bought that mobo was time to upgrade.

May I suggest - upgrade the hardware, or downgrade the software. If you drop back to an old release, a 2.4x kernel, you will find that that stuff is very much in touch. What happens is that each driver is patched to accomodate the newest generation of chips (As carefully as possible). The new chips will be tested extensively, not necessarily the older ones. You also have fierce bottlenecks in that mobo - PCI bus=33mhz and no more, IDE=33Mhz, ISA=15Mhz max (That's double speed, which not everything can take). Do you have AGP? You certainly don't have PCIE. Slowing the ISA bus would be my last shot at that, to see whether it  is an isa problem. I think you can set it at 15Mhz or sys clock/4 (=33Mhz/4 or 8.25 Mhz)

As to my previous post, I am saying to get the box as  resource free as possible and try sound that way. If there's a clash of interrupts, removing stuff will show you. Many older soundcards want irq 10 also.

Your other post about the same problem to the same list is the _last_ thing I'm likely to look at.

2010/1/28 kapetr <kapetr@mizera.cz>
Thank You for replay,

but it is dificout to understand, what You mean. (my very bad english)

I am sure it has nothing to do with NICs os USBs. Sometimes it hang by
GDM login (by playing sound).

What do You mean with "clear irq10" ? I had reserved it in BIOS setup
- without effect.

I thing, the problem is in ALSA/kernel itself. I have many times encounter,
that newer kernels/drivers are working worse and worse with older HW
- e.g. my older graphic cards do has worked worse in Ubuntu 8.10 and
more worse in 9.04 and in 9.10 they work nor at all.
Even if the should (<= man pages).

The problem is they are not tested anymore :-(

As I say - in windows XP these cards have worked perfectly.
I have to give it up.

Now I try to use one ISA card, which do not work with alsa, just with
OSS "sb" (whitch do not hangs my system).

The problem is ... see my other post in "alsa-user".


Thank You again
--kapetr


----- PŮVODNÍ ZPRÁVA -----
Od: "Business Kid" <business.kid@gmail.com>
Komu: "kapetr" <kapetr@mizera.cz>
Předmět: Re: [Alsa-user] playing sound hangs system total
Datum: 28.1.2010 - 14:07:30

> Ah! *In the middle *it hangs. 2 things do that.
>
> 1. Lack of throughput speed. A certain amount is cached,
> and then it runs
> out & things go wrong.  OR
> 2. Something else wakes up (e.g. nic replies  to an
> arp query or something)
> and it hangs.
>
> So, pull the nic, and try again. Also, try using ps/2
> KB & mouse if you have
> them. Then you can remove the usb modules and pull
> them out of the picture.
> Did it always hang in the middle, or have we made progress
> with 'noapic'?
> Also, if you could clear irq10 I'd be a lot happier.
> Get the video off it
> anyhow, if you can. Use irq 12 for that.
>
>
>
> 2010/1/28 kapetr <kapetr@mizera.cz>
>
> > I have also try to set boot kernel parameters:
> >
> > - acpi=off noapci
> >
> > but also don't help.
> >
> > In the middle of playing some clip with xine, the
> > system hangs again.
> > >
> > Any other Ideas ?
> >
> > I will have to give it up :-((
> >
> > --kapetr
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- PŮVODNÍ ZPRÁVA -----
> > Od: "kapetr" <kapetr@mizera.cz>
> > Komu: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Předmět: Re: [Alsa-user] playing sound hangs system
> > total
> > > Datum: 26.1.2010 - 8:23:48
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > for explanation:
> > >
> > > - my sb awe32 is not PnP (but other ISA cards I
> > > has
> > > > > try was - with same
> > > problems)
> > > - I have try to load it in /etc/rc.local or in
> > > /etc/modules,
> > > > > but my system
> > > has mostly died just by GDM login (by playing "welcome"
> > > > > sound).
> > >
> > > - I load it manually now with:
> > >
> > > ------
> > > root@zly-hugo:/home/hugo# modprobe -v snd-sbawe
> > > isapnp=0
> > > > > insmod /lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-hwdep.ko
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > insmod
> > /lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb-common.ko
> > > > > > >
> > > insmod /lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16-csp.ko
> > > > > > > > >
> > > insmod /lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sb16-dsp.ko
> > > > > > > > >
> > > insmod
> > /lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/sound/drivers/opl3/snd-opl3-lib.ko
> > > > > > >
> > > insmod /lib/modules/2.6.31-17-generic/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sbawe.ko
> > > > > > > > > isapnp=0
> > > root@zly-hugo:/home/hugo#
> > > -------
> > >
> > > The card is configured to default - correct recognized
> > > > > (see below) values.
> > >
> > > After that nothing is logged/dmesg-ed
> > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > > root@zly-hugo:/home/hugo# cat /proc/asound/cards
> > > > > 0 [rev50          ]: VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev50
> > > > > VIA 82C686A/B rev50 with VIA1612A at 0xac00, irq
> > > 10
> > > > > 1 [S16            ]: SB AWE - Sound Blaster 16
> > > Sound Blaster 16 at 0x220, irq 5, dma 1&5
> > > ----
> > >
> > > !!! The system do not crash every time by first
> > > attempt
> > > > > to play sound.
> > > Sometimes it work OK, but then a sound is playing,
> > > > > and in the middle
> > > the system dies - also leds on my HD and DVD-RW
> > > are
> > > > > lighting ?! and
> > > I have to reset.
> > >
> > > In the system logs after reboot is nothing :(
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank You for replay(s) and sorry please my English.
> > > > >
> > > --kapetr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- PŮVODNÍ ZPRÁVA -----
> > > Od: "Nigel Sollars" <nsollars@gmail.com>
> > > Komu: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Předmět: Re: [Alsa-user] playing sound hangs
> > > system
> > > > > total
> > > Datum: 24.1.2010 - 15:37:45
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 9:01 AM, kapetr <kapetr@mizera.cz>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > maybe is it not just ALSA problem, maybe kernel
> > > > > > > > > ?!
> > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I would like use second sound card (for VoIP
> > > > > telephony).
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have 4 old ISA sound cards - they all
> > > > > > > > WORKS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > Windows XP without
> > > > > > problems.
> > > > > At least I have tried orig. Creative SB AWE32
> > > > > ISA.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I thought this card ( AWE32 ) adheared to the
> > > > ISAPNP
> > > > > > > > standard I know my old
> > > > AWE64G did.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But in Ubuntu 9.10 (kernel 2.6.31-17-generic,
> > > > > alsa
> > > > > > > > > > > 1.0.20) these all
> > > > > > cards hang the system when playing sound
> > > > > > - I
> > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > to hard RESET it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Just one card works only with OSS driver "sb"
> > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > only that card do
> > > > > > no crash my system, also I thing, that could
> > > > > > > > > > > by ALSA
> > > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Have someone any Idea ?
> > > > > Maybe some kernel/alsa parameter ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have try to reserve IRQ/DMA in BIOS Setup,
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > select "BIOS safe"
> > > > > > settings, nothing helps ...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Before trying to play any sound types, could
> > > > you
> > > > > > > atleast
> > > > > dump out the
> > > > information from Alsa like from /proc/asound/cards
> > > > > > > > and codec info ...
> > > >
> > > > Might be an idea to dmesg after a reboot to see
> > > > if
> > > > > > > > Alsa printed anything
> > > > that points to a potential problem.
> > > >
> > > > You atleast have to give a little more info than
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > have already.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Nige
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > --kapetr
> > > > >
> > > > >
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