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[SMW-devel] RDFa demo and code

From: David McCabe <davemccabe@gm...> - 2008-08-09 08:13
Attachments: rdfa-august-8.patch

Hi,

I'd like to show you my RDFa work and solicit comments. I'll start  
with one known bug: 'action=edit' etc. should be stripped from red  
links. If you find anything else, please let me know.

Here's a demo: http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page

A patch is attached. You can also keep track of my work by checking it  
out from git:

  git clone git://code.creativecommons.org/semanticmediawiki.git
  cd semanticmediawiki
  git branch --track rdfa origin/rdfa
  git checkout rdfa

And to update, say 'git pull'.

Thanks for looking at this. Best regards,
-- 
David McCabe

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Re: [SMW-devel] RDFa demo and code

From: Yaron Koren <yaron57@gm...> - 2008-08-11 16:24

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It looks good. One question: why are you planning to remove "action=edit"
from red links?

-Yaron

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:13 AM, David McCabe <davemccabe@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to show you my RDFa work and solicit comments. I'll start with one
> known bug: 'action=edit' etc. should be stripped from red links. If you find
> anything else, please let me know.
>
> Here's a demo: http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
> A patch is attached. You can also keep track of my work by checking it out
> from git:
>
> git clone git://code.creativecommons.org/semanticmediawiki.git
> cd semanticmediawiki
> git branch --track rdfa origin/rdfa
> git checkout rdfa
>
> And to update, say 'git pull'.
>
> Thanks for looking at this. Best regards,
> --
> David McCabe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [SMW-devel] RDFa demo and code

From: Sergey Chernyshev <semediawiki-devel@an...> - 2008-08-13 19:36

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Uhh. Looks like I owe RDFa project some more attention then I was able to
give lately - couldn't even find time to install your code yet ;(

I'll take a further look at the code and install it on my instances
(hopefully sooner then later), but so far I see few issues at
http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page:

- First of all, the object that is described on page
http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page should have actual
URI as this:
http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Special:URIResolver/Main_Pageand
not the page URI (for some reason you have "localhost" as domain name
in
URIs which is the separate issue)
- It might make sense to have one global about attribute on the content
div, but if it is not specified, then it must be specified on all the tags
(currently .localhost:Property:Population property is not assigned to any
object)
- I'm not sure if it makes sense to duplicate values in "content"
attribute unless they are different from what's displayed - you might want
to use "content" when link like this is created: [[Some property::Some
Value|Something else to be displayed]] - this might be extermely useful for
values that are supssed in display, for example: [[Some property::Some
Value| ]]

You might want to test the stuff you get with this RDFa distiller:
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/

The best way to understand if your result is successful is to see if

- http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdmccabe.org%2Ftmp%2Fsmw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page&format=tty-xml&warnings=false&parser=lax&space-serve=true&submit=Go!

<http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdmccabe.org%2Ftmp%2Fsmw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page&format=tty-xml&warnings=false&parser=lax&space-serve=true&submit=Go%21>

is as close to

- http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Special:ExportRDF/Main_Page

as possible.

In any case, it's greate to see that we have working functionality peering
through the real pages! Great work!

Sergey

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:13 AM, David McCabe <davemccabe@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to show you my RDFa work and solicit comments. I'll start with one
> known bug: 'action=edit' etc. should be stripped from red links. If you find
> anything else, please let me know.
>
> Here's a demo: http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
> A patch is attached. You can also keep track of my work by checking it out
> from git:
>
> git clone git://code.creativecommons.org/semanticmediawiki.git
> cd semanticmediawiki
> git branch --track rdfa origin/rdfa
> git checkout rdfa
>
> And to update, say 'git pull'.
>
> Thanks for looking at this. Best regards,
> --
> David McCabe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> challenge
> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great
> prizes
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--
Sergey Chernyshev
http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/

Re: [SMW-devel] RDFa demo and code

From: Yaron Koren <yaron57@gm...> - 2008-08-13 20:03

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For what it's worth, that page actually does define ".localhost" to be the
correct value - it's in the <html> tag, right at the top of the HTML source.

-Yaron

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Sergey Chernyshev <
semediawiki-devel@antispam.sergeychernyshev.com> wrote:

> Uhh. Looks like I owe RDFa project some more attention then I was able to
> give lately - couldn't even find time to install your code yet ;(
>
> I'll take a further look at the code and install it on my instances
> (hopefully sooner then later), but so far I see few issues at
> http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page:
>
> - First of all, the object that is described on page
> http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page should have actual
> URI as this:
> " target="_blank">http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Special:URIResolver/Main_Pageand not the page URI (for some reason you have "localhost" as domain name in
> URIs which is the separate issue)
> - It might make sense to have one global about attribute on the content
> div, but if it is not specified, then it must be specified on all the tags
> (currently .localhost:Property:Population property is not assigned to any
> object)
> - I'm not sure if it makes sense to duplicate values in "content"
> attribute unless they are different from what's displayed - you might want
> to use "content" when link like this is created: [[Some property::Some
> Value|Something else to be displayed]] - this might be extermely useful for
> values that are supssed in display, for example: [[Some property::Some
> Value| ]]
>
> You might want to test the stuff you get with this RDFa distiller:
> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/
>
> The best way to understand if your result is successful is to see if
>
> - http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdmccabe.org%2Ftmp%2Fsmw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page&format=tty-xml&warnings=false&parser=lax&space-serve=true&submit=Go!
>
> <http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdmccabe.org%2Ftmp%2Fsmw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page&format=tty-xml&warnings=false&parser=lax&space-serve=true&submit=Go%21>
>
> is as close to
>
> -
> http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Special:ExportRDF/Main_Page
>
> as possible.
>
> In any case, it's greate to see that we have working functionality peering
> through the real pages! Great work!
>
> Sergey
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:13 AM, David McCabe <davemccabe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to show you my RDFa work and solicit comments. I'll start with
>> one known bug: 'action=edit' etc. should be stripped from red links. If you
>> find anything else, please let me know.
>>
>> Here's a demo: http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>
>> A patch is attached. You can also keep track of my work by checking it out
>> from git:
>>
>> git clone git://code.creativecommons.org/semanticmediawiki.git
>> cd semanticmediawiki
>> git branch --track rdfa origin/rdfa
>> git checkout rdfa
>>
>> And to update, say 'git pull'.
>>
>> Thanks for looking at this. Best regards,
>> --
>> David McCabe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's
>> challenge
>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great
>> prizes
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>> world
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net /> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sergey Chernyshev
> http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/
>
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Re: [SMW-devel] RDFa demo and code

From: Sergey Chernyshev <semediawiki-devel@an...> - 2008-08-13 20:23

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Yes, it does which is good (hope it'll work with ShortURLs and stuff) -
that's not an issue, the issue is that RDF export on David's box has

- http://localhost/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Special:URIResolver/Main_Page

as object URI and not

-
http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Special:URIResolver/Main_Page

as I would expect. In any case, this is probably just some MediaWiki
configuration issue, and not RDFa support issue per se.

BTW, I'm not sure if namespace declarations can start with ".", at least my
Firefox is complaining about it on this page:

-
http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdmccabe.org%2Ftmp%2Fsmw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page&format=tty-xml&warnings=true&parser=lax&space-serve=true&submit=Go
!

Sergey

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Yaron Koren <yaron57@gmail.com> wrote:

> For what it's worth, that page actually does define ".localhost" to be the
> correct value - it's in the <html> tag, right at the top of the HTML source.
>
> -Yaron
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Sergey Chernyshev <
> semediawiki-devel@antispam.sergeychernyshev.com> wrote:
>
>> Uhh. Looks like I owe RDFa project some more attention then I was able to
>> give lately - couldn't even find time to install your code yet ;(
>>
>> I'll take a further look at the code and install it on my instances
>> (hopefully sooner then later), but so far I see few issues at
>> http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page:
>>
>> - First of all, the object that is described on page
>> http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page should have
>> actual URI as this:
>> " target="_blank">http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Special:URIResolver/Main_Pageand not the page URI (for some reason you have "localhost" as domain name in
>> URIs which is the separate issue)
>> - It might make sense to have one global about attribute on the
>> content div, but if it is not specified, then it must be specified on all
>> the tags (currently .localhost:Property:Population property is not assigned
>> to any object)
>> - I'm not sure if it makes sense to duplicate values in "content"
>> attribute unless they are different from what's displayed - you might want
>> to use "content" when link like this is created: [[Some property::Some
>> Value|Something else to be displayed]] - this might be extermely useful for
>> values that are supssed in display, for example: [[Some property::Some
>> Value| ]]
>>
>> You might want to test the stuff you get with this RDFa distiller:
>> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/
>>
>> The best way to understand if your result is successful is to see if
>>
>> - http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdmccabe.org%2Ftmp%2Fsmw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page&format=tty-xml&warnings=false&parser=lax&space-serve=true&submit=Go!
>>
>> <http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdmccabe.org%2Ftmp%2Fsmw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page&format=tty-xml&warnings=false&parser=lax&space-serve=true&submit=Go%21>
>>
>> is as close to
>>
>> -
>> http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Special:ExportRDF/Main_Page
>>
>> as possible.
>>
>> In any case, it's greate to see that we have working functionality peering
>> through the real pages! Great work!
>>
>> Sergey
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:13 AM, David McCabe <davemccabe@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd like to show you my RDFa work and solicit comments. I'll start with
>>> one known bug: 'action=edit' etc. should be stripped from red links. If you
>>> find anything else, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Here's a demo: http://dmccabe.org/tmp/smw/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>>
>>> A patch is attached. You can also keep track of my work by checking it
>>> out from git:
>>>
>>> git clone git://code.creativecommons.org/semanticmediawiki.git
>>> cd semanticmediawiki
>>> git branch --track rdfa origin/rdfa
>>> git checkout rdfa
>>>
>>> And to update, say 'git pull'.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking at this. Best regards,
>>> --
>>> David McCabe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's
>>> challenge
>>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great
>>> prizes
>>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the
>>> world
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net /> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sergey Chernyshev
>> http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> challenge
>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great
>> prizes
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>> world
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>>
>
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--
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http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/

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