Christian Hammond wrote:
>On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:34:54PM -0800, Josh Steiner wrote:
>>this is such a non answere it isnt even funny. i am a consultant and
>>have been recommending GAIM to literally dozens of my clients, family
>>members and friends. you may not want to admit it, but the tooltips are
>>the #1 complaint i get from people (after complaints about various im
>>servers going up and down of course ;) , it really reflects badly on
>>GAIM. it's just frustrating to see such irrational stubborness about
>>something so silly.
>It's the number one complaint you get, but until now, I don't believe
>we've ever had this complaint.
well, i'm willing to wager that the number of average users on this
mailinglist is very near zero. if the administrative assistant i helped
install gaim for was bugged by something, do you think she'd google
around until she found this list (doubt she even would know something
like this exists) or just whine at me? sadly i think i know the
>It doesn't reflect badly on us any more than anything else. You're
>under the impression that the tooltip issue is the biggest thing
>affecting gaim right now,
absolutely not. there are much bigger fish to fry, but this one has
been cleaned, battered and fried... you guys just refuse to serve it :)
trust me, i'd never be telling you what you need to code, but the fact
that your wont apply a popular, low impact patch is a bit mystifying to me.
>but then this other group over here thinks
>it's webcams, another group thinks it's file transfer, another thinks
>it's MSN buddy icons, yet another believes it to be the lack of voice
>chat, a larger group thinks it's the lack of Trillian-style skinning,
>some believe it to be the lack of blogging and RSS support.
>Do you see the problem here?
>Your problem is big to you, but to us, it's just another group of
>people complaining. Now, that's not to say we don't listen to groups
>of people who want things to change. We have done a lot, and you must
>understand that we're a very active project.
i do understand, i've been lurking here for months and months.
>Each of the developers
>have some pretty big-sized work lined up. Personally, I'm in the
>middle of a status rewrite, and then I have to work on a conversation
>rewrite, privacy, and some other things. We're busy.
this is kind of a moot argument... it would take, what, 45 seconds to
apply the patch? less than the ammount of time it took you to write
this last email i'd wager.
>If you want this
>fixed, and if the group of people you're around believe this to really
>be such a huge issue that seriously hurts their ability to use gaim,
>then you are free to distribute your own custom versions. This is not
>unheard of. See Debian, Red Hat, Fedora, Mandrake, Gentoo, SuSE...
its an option, its a really really stupid option to fork gaim over one
single pref, but it is an option. so is pouring tabassco in my eye, and
that seems to make a little more sense to me.
>It's also not irrational stubborness. We have explained in detail why
>we won't do this. You can disagree with us, but that doesn't make us
i undertstand, its not black and white, i've seen some very comelling
arguments as to why this is a good option and one very weak (and
seemingly arbitrarily applied) argument against it.
>Also, please refer to it as Gaim or gaim. GAIM isn't valid, for legal
oops... didnt realise.
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