I'll second that. Just because we have the gumption to use Linux doesn't give us the right for a superiority complex. Linux has always been, in my knowledge, a community effort. Community means helping others help themselves.
On 29 Apr 2002 15:19:30 -0600
"Ben Brown" <xthor@...> wrote:
> I agree... I used to hate posting to groups like this because I was
> afraid I would get my head bit off by users who thought they were "too
> good" to answer other people's questions.
> Last I checked, we Linux users were trying to get more people to switch
> to Linux on the desktop, not deter them by insulting them or telling
> them their questions were below us. I've had friends try Linux and stop
> using it because they weren't getting help from newsgroups and mailing
> lists. I hate hearing that.
> This is an opt-in list, if we get tired of hearing the questions, we can
> always stop gettin' the emails. :)
> On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 15:06, Elizabeth Courts wrote:
> > Valid points, all. However, being a newbie myself, a little community spirit goes a long way. It would be nice if the more experienced users could answer a simple question like "where do I find themes" and all it takes is "go to classic.themes.org". Doesn't take much, and by no means is anyone required to answer to a question like that. But the reason someone would post to this list is because this is "enlightenment-users." That includes all of us, newbies and veterans alike. Internet footwork is good, but as anyone who has had to plod along on a dial-up connection knows, this can be frustrating as well as time-consuming.
> > Be nice and share your knowledge and your questions, no matter how inane they might be.
> > Good Speed to your modems
> > Liz Courts
> > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:48:30 -0400
> > "Jack" <vze24938@...> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:03:47 -0500
> > > Ronald Lau <RLau@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why not stop being a dick and just filter/ ignore any post you feel is
> > > > beneath your time. Posts like this one only clog up the group even more.
> > >
> > > Why? Because maybe others feel the same way I do and are too timid to say it for fear of backlash from someone like you. I could be wrong, though--maybe people like these little messages that ask simple questions that could be answered by the person who asked them in 2 minutes by doing a simple search of documentation or the net. However, I'd like to think that people want the list to be populated with something a bit more interesting--or maybe something they haven't heard 20 times before.
> > >
> > > BTW, posts like this one possibly make a difference and remove the other clog, hence removing not only the previous clog itself but the clog this message may or may not have caused on its own (since once the offending clogging is removed, there is no more need for a message like this until other types of clog show up in the future).
> > >
> > > By the way, how do you feel about real spam? You know, the stuff solicitors send you, stuff you never asked for? Do you just filter it away into the trash, hoping it will go away? Or are you doing something about it, being proactive and trying to make a change for what you might think is "the better"?
> > >
> > > I usually don't say much when I see something going on that I don't like--even if I think others don't like it either. I'm pretty shy normally. However, sometimes I'm having a certain kind of morning and feel like speaking up--and I hope that maybe I'm saying something some of the people on the list would like said. If not, disregard it. If so, then cool. Either way, don't just straight out bash me for not conforming--that has no relevance to the point I'm trying to make. Either argue FOR the simple questions people can answer on their own (like, maybe you could have said "This list is for E users to ask questions on, no matter how mundane and redundant those questions might be."), or argue against them ("I would like more substantial questions to show up on this list."). Above all, try to at least be civil (i.e., just because I called myself a dick, I was not making an open call for anyone to ad hom me).
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