yaws

Joel Reymont wrote:
> Is there a darcs/svn repo for yaws?
> 
> 	Thanks, Joel
> 

All there is, is the regular sourceforge CVS repository.
It is now possible to host svn based code at sourceforge
and I've been contemplating to switch from CVS to subversion
but don't really see the need.
I prefer svn but CVS works just fine.


/klacke

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Claes,

I heard that many developers have moved their projects from
sourceforge to code.google.com. The Google offering is much cleaner
and nicer and they support SVN. They will also add more features over
time.

I'm just giving you a heads up in case you're looking for a SF alternative :)

Yariv

>
> All there is, is the regular sourceforge CVS repository.
> It is now possible to host svn based code at sourceforge
> and I've been contemplating to switch from CVS to subversion
> but don't really see the need.
> I prefer svn but CVS works just fine.
>
>
> /klacke
>
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Yariv Sadan wrote:
> Claes,
> 
> I heard that many developers have moved their projects from
> sourceforge to code.google.com. The Google offering is much cleaner
> and nicer and they support SVN. They will also add more features over
> time.
> 
> I'm just giving you a heads up in case you're looking for a SF 
> alternative :)


Hmm, what's the phrase ... "If it works - don't fix it"


/klacke


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On Aug 30, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Claes Wikstr=F6m wrote:

> Yariv Sadan wrote:
>> Claes,
>>
>> I heard that many developers have moved their projects from
>> sourceforge to code.google.com. The Google offering is much cleaner
>> and nicer and they support SVN. They will also add more features over
>> time.
>>
>> I'm just giving you a heads up in case you're looking for a SF
>> alternative :)
>
>
> Hmm, what's the phrase ... "If it works - don't fix it"

I think the trouble is it "works for you" and maybe a few others.  =20
But since svn is now mainstream and sourceforge has only made modest =20
advances in recent years, I would venture that something as small as =20
changing to a more "accessible" online project tool, may increase =20
contribution to yaws.
For example, I'll just wait for your packaged release rather than =20
spend the 30 minutes it takes to look up how to use cvs ..on second =20
thought it would take longer since I'd have to install cvs client first.
I had a piece of example code and some doc mods to yaws I wanted to =20
submit a few months ago.  I simply didn't want to spend time using =20
cvs so I never did it.
I have similar issue with jungerl...it needs a better home and/or =20
structure as well.
;-)  ke han

>
>
> /klacke
>
>
> --=20
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> http://www.tail-f.com                 -- everything is under control
> cellphone: +46 70 2097763
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=20=

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> security?
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> Geronimo
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I second both of this points. Personally, I prefer darcs as it allows  
me to treat individual changes to a file as patches. I can manage  
this individual changes individually, as opposed to  managing changes  
to a whole file.

On Aug 30, 2006, at 2:25 PM, ke han wrote:

> I think the trouble is it "works for you" and maybe a few others.
> But since svn is now mainstream and sourceforge has only made modest
> advances in recent years, I would venture that something as small as
> changing to a more "accessible" online project tool, may increase
> contribution to yaws.
[...]
> I have similar issue with jungerl...it needs a better home and/or
> structure as well.


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On Aug 30, 2006, at 9:31 PM, Joel Reymont wrote:

> I second both of this points. Personally, I prefer darcs as it  
> allows me to treat individual changes to a file as patches. I can  
> manage this individual changes individually, as opposed to   
> managing changes to a whole file.

agreed, there are other good alternatives to svn.  But this is the  
mindshare leader and its "good enough".  I don't want to be a jack of  
all version control systems.  ;-)
ke han

>
> On Aug 30, 2006, at 2:25 PM, ke han wrote:
>
>> I think the trouble is it "works for you" and maybe a few others.
>> But since svn is now mainstream and sourceforge has only made modest
>> advances in recent years, I would venture that something as small as
>> changing to a more "accessible" online project tool, may increase
>> contribution to yaws.
> [...]
>> I have similar issue with jungerl...it needs a better home and/or
>> structure as well.
>
>
> --
> http://wagerlabs.com/
>
>
>
>
>

Joel Reymont wrote:
> I second both of this points. Personally, I prefer darcs as it allows  
> me to treat individual changes to a file as patches. I can manage  
> this individual changes individually, as opposed to  managing changes  
> to a whole file.

Have a look at: http://svk.elixus.org/

--Tobbe

> 
> On Aug 30, 2006, at 2:25 PM, ke han wrote:
> 
>> I think the trouble is it "works for you" and maybe a few others.
>> But since svn is now mainstream and sourceforge has only made modest
>> advances in recent years, I would venture that something as small as
>> changing to a more "accessible" online project tool, may increase
>> contribution to yaws.
> [...]
>> I have similar issue with jungerl...it needs a better home and/or
>> structure as well.
> 
> 
> --
> http://wagerlabs.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
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On 21:25 Wed 30 Aug     , ke han wrote:
> 
> On Aug 30, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Claes Wikstr?m wrote:
> 
> > Yariv Sadan wrote:
> >> Claes,
> >>
> >> I heard that many developers have moved their projects from
> >> sourceforge to code.google.com. The Google offering is much cleaner
> >> and nicer and they support SVN. They will also add more features over
> >> time.
> >>
> >> I'm just giving you a heads up in case you're looking for a SF
> >> alternative :)
> >
> >
> > Hmm, what's the phrase ... "If it works - don't fix it"
> 
> I think the trouble is it "works for you" and maybe a few others.
> But since svn is now mainstream and sourceforge has only made modest
> advances in recent years, I would venture that something as small as
> changing to a more "accessible" online project tool, may increase
> contribution to yaws.

Subversion is only "more accessible" for Windows users. On older systems
Subversion is monster because it has SO MANY dependencies:

help2man
autoconf
autoconf
metaauto
libltdl
libtool
libiconv
libxml
neon
db
expat
gettext
apr
apr-util

I also doubt that meaningful contributions are going to come from people
who think CVS is difficult.

-- 
Eric Radman  |  http://eradman.com

On 8/30/06, Yariv Sadan <yarivvv@...> wrote:
> Claes,
>
> I heard that many developers have moved their projects from
> sourceforge to code.google.com. The Google offering is much cleaner
> and nicer and they support SVN. They will also add more features over
> time.
>
> I'm just giving you a heads up in case you're looking for a SF alternative :)
>

I like assembla.com, they have svn, trac, typo and some more stuff.
For those that do not know about trac yet it is a great project management tool
that includes a wiki, bug tracker and svn browser.

Also assembla.com have no limits on what licenses You use.

/Anders

On 8/30/06, Eric Radman <theman@...> wrote:
> On 21:25 Wed 30 Aug     , ke han wrote:
> >
> > On Aug 30, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Claes Wikstr?m wrote:
> >
> > > Yariv Sadan wrote:
> > >> Claes,
> > >>
> > >> I heard that many developers have moved their projects from
> > >> sourceforge to code.google.com. The Google offering is much cleaner
> > >> and nicer and they support SVN. They will also add more features over
> > >> time.
> > >>
> > >> I'm just giving you a heads up in case you're looking for a SF
> > >> alternative :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, what's the phrase ... "If it works - don't fix it"
> >
> > I think the trouble is it "works for you" and maybe a few others.
> > But since svn is now mainstream and sourceforge has only made modest
> > advances in recent years, I would venture that something as small as
> > changing to a more "accessible" online project tool, may increase
> > contribution to yaws.
>
> Subversion is only "more accessible" for Windows users. On older systems
> Subversion is monster because it has SO MANY dependencies:
>

Is this a problem for anyone's workstation? Also, if you're compiling
it, most of those dependencies are included in the source tarball.

>
> I also doubt that meaningful contributions are going to come from people
> who think CVS is difficult.
>

The issue isn't so much that CVS is difficult, but old and annoying.
CVS and sourceforge's reliability are definitely reasons why I have
not contributed any patches to yaws yet. Instead, I've simply worked
around Yaws problems, because I didn't want to deal with sourceforge.

-bob

On Aug 30, 2006, at 2:48 PM, Torbjorn Tornkvist wrote:

> Have a look at: http://svk.elixus.org/

Tobbe, what did you want to say? Does SVK let you treat multiple  
changes to the same file as individual patches?

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Wed 30 Aug 2006 15:48 Torbjorn Tornkvis wrotet:
> Joel Reymont wrote:
> > I second both of this points. Personally, I prefer darcs as it allows
> > me to treat individual changes to a file as patches. I can manage
> > this individual changes individually, as opposed to  managing changes
> > to a whole file.
>
> Have a look at: http://svk.elixus.org/
>
> --Tobbe
>
Maybe I am branching off this thread too much, but I can see some similarities 
with So6 and libresource  as well - http://dev.libresource.org/

/Mikael