Steel Bank Common Lisp

On 02.12.2007, at 07:55, Terrence Brannon wrote:

> I saw the earlier thread on this subject:
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=758962.73965.qm%40web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com
>
> and the consensus was to build SBCL using SBCL...
>
> I personally dont know how that can create a Cygwin build, but would
> appreciate any feedback.

cygwin's gcc, make &c, along with sbcl itself, can be used to build  
sbcl on windows.  The second possibility is to use msys.  The binary  
is build using -mno-cygwin and is a native windows executable.

To my knowledge, no one has tried to port sbcl to run on top of  
cygwin; since sbcl is a somewhat demanding application, this might  
uncover bugs or limitations in cygwin itself.  (A similar task, but  
perhaps even grander in scope, would be to try to compile the Unix  
Java VM under cygwin - "it's all Posix, so it should work", right? :) )

> When I run SBCL 1.0.9 under Cygwin, it starts up and runs, but it
> expects windows-style pathnames. And invoking SLIME with SBCL 1.0.9
> for windows thus does not work because it is sending Unix-style paths
> to an SBCL expecting windows style paths.

Just for the record, sbcl/slime/(non-cygwin-)emacs on Windows runs  
fine (at least it did the last time I tried - I don't boot into  
Windows often).

Rudi

On Dec 1, 2007 7:42 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
>
> On 02.12.2007, at 07:55, Terrence Brannon wrote:
>
> > I saw the earlier thread on this subject:
> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=758962.73965.qm%40web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com
> >
> > and the consensus was to build SBCL using SBCL...
> >
> > I personally dont know how that can create a Cygwin build, but would
> > appreciate any feedback.
>
> cygwin's gcc, make &c, along with sbcl itself, can be used to build
> sbcl on windows.

what command-line would I type to try this build? would I run the
command-line under the Windows command shell or a cygwin shell?

On 02.12.2007, at 08:52, Terrence Brannon wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2007 7:42 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
>>
>> cygwin's gcc, make &c, along with sbcl itself, can be used to build
>> sbcl on windows.
>
> what command-line would I type to try this build? would I run the
> command-line under the Windows command shell or a cygwin shell?

The build is done within the cygwin shell.  Make sure sbcl is in the  
path, then cd to the top-level source directory and type "sh  
make.sh".  Two out of 15 contribs fail to build (sb-simple-streams and  
another one that I can't remember before coffee) - if you got src/ 
runtime/sbcl.exe and output/sbcl.core and the contribs built, you were  
successful.

Cheers,

Rudi

On Dec 1, 2007 8:09 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
>
> On 02.12.2007, at 08:52, Terrence Brannon wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 2007 7:42 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> cygwin's gcc, make &c, along with sbcl itself, can be used to build
> >> sbcl on windows.
> >
> > what command-line would I type to try this build? would I run the
> > command-line under the Windows command shell or a cygwin shell?
>
> The build is done within the cygwin shell.  Make sure sbcl is in the
> path, then cd to the top-level source directory and type "sh
> make.sh".

It fails to find the core. When you call sbcl under the windows
command tool, the --core option doesnt have to be specified. But it
does seem to be required for cygwin.

I have a start script with the correct call, but am not sure how to
integrate this into the SBCL build process:

/cygdrive/c/Program_Files/SBCL/1.0.9/sbcl.exe --core
c:\\Program_Files\\SBCL\\1.0.9\\sbcl.core

Administrator@... ~/mydocs/dl/sbcl-1.0.12 : which sbcl
/cygdrive/c/Program_Files/SBCL/1.0.9/sbcl
Administrator@... ~/mydocs/dl/sbcl-1.0.12 : sh make.sh

//entering make-host-1.sh
//building cross-compiler, and doing first genesis
fatal error encountered in SBCL pid 5440:
can't find core file at /usr/local/lib/sbcl//sbcl.core

The full build transcript is at - http://paste.lisp.org/display/25668#1

Ok, now I'm getting package EXT not found with a call to make.sh
modified per some suggestions  in #lisp on Freenode IRC:

http://paste.lisp.org/display/25668#2

More feedback soon

On Dec 1, 2007 8:21 PM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl@...> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2007 8:09 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
> >
> > On 02.12.2007, at 08:52, Terrence Brannon wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 1, 2007 7:42 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> cygwin's gcc, make &c, along with sbcl itself, can be used to build
> > >> sbcl on windows.
> > >
> > > what command-line would I type to try this build? would I run the
> > > command-line under the Windows command shell or a cygwin shell?
> >
> > The build is done within the cygwin shell.  Make sure sbcl is in the
> > path, then cd to the top-level source directory and type "sh
> > make.sh".
>
> It fails to find the core. When you call sbcl under the windows
> command tool, the --core option doesnt have to be specified. But it
> does seem to be required for cygwin.
>
> I have a start script with the correct call, but am not sure how to
> integrate this into the SBCL build process:
>
> /cygdrive/c/Program_Files/SBCL/1.0.9/sbcl.exe --core
> c:\\Program_Files\\SBCL\\1.0.9\\sbcl.core
>
> Administrator@... ~/mydocs/dl/sbcl-1.0.12 : which sbcl
> /cygdrive/c/Program_Files/SBCL/1.0.9/sbcl
> Administrator@... ~/mydocs/dl/sbcl-1.0.12 : sh make.sh
>
> //entering make-host-1.sh
> //building cross-compiler, and doing first genesis
> fatal error encountered in SBCL pid 5440:
> can't find core file at /usr/local/lib/sbcl//sbcl.core
>
> The full build transcript is at - http://paste.lisp.org/display/25668#1
>



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On 02.12.2007, at 09:31, Terrence Brannon wrote:

> Ok, now I'm getting package EXT not found with a call to make.sh
> modified per some suggestions  in #lisp on Freenode IRC:
>
> http://paste.lisp.org/display/25668#2


... which says:

; compilation aborted because of fatal error:
;   READ failure in COMPILE-FILE:
;     READER-ERROR at 295 (line 7, column 17) on #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM  
for "file c:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator\\My Documents\\dl\ 
\sbcl-1.0.12\\src\\code\\backq.lisp" {ADE4FF1}>:
;       package "EXT" not found


Here's where I go "huh?" and note that in the backq.lisp in my source  
tree, line 7 is a comment, and the only occurrence of the string "ext"  
in the whole file is within the word "dynamic-extent" ...  Could it be  
that the sources got corrupted somehow?

Rudi

It's compiling fine right now... I think some files were mis-created
when I did not supply "sbcl --core ..." after sh make.sh on the
command-line.


On Dec 1, 2007 9:35 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
>
> On 02.12.2007, at 09:31, Terrence Brannon wrote:
>
> > Ok, now I'm getting package EXT not found with a call to make.sh
> > modified per some suggestions  in #lisp on Freenode IRC:
> >
> > http://paste.lisp.org/display/25668#2
>
>
> ... which says:
>
> ; compilation aborted because of fatal error:
> ;   READ failure in COMPILE-FILE:
> ;     READER-ERROR at 295 (line 7, column 17) on #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM
> for "file c:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator\\My Documents\\dl\
> \sbcl-1.0.12\\src\\code\\backq.lisp" {ADE4FF1}>:
> ;       package "EXT" not found
>
>
> Here's where I go "huh?" and note that in the backq.lisp in my source
> tree, line 7 is a comment, and the only occurrence of the string "ext"
> in the whole file is within the word "dynamic-extent" ...  Could it be
> that the sources got corrupted somehow?
>
> Rudi
>
>
>



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On Dec 1, 2007 8:09 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
>
> On 02.12.2007, at 08:52, Terrence Brannon wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 2007 7:42 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> cygwin's gcc, make &c, along with sbcl itself, can be used to build
> >> sbcl on windows.
> >
> > what command-line would I type to try this build? would I run the
> > command-line under the Windows command shell or a cygwin shell?
>
> The build is done within the cygwin shell.  Make sure sbcl is in the
> path, then cd to the top-level source directory and type "sh
> make.sh".  Two out of 15 contribs fail to build (sb-simple-streams and
> another one that I can't remember before coffee) - if you got src/
> runtime/sbcl.exe and output/sbcl.core and the contribs built, you were
> successful.

Yep. it compiled. I'll stick with the windows build for the time being:

WARNING! Some of the contrib modules did not build successfully or pass
their self-tests. Failed contribs:"
  sb-cover
  sb-md5
  sb-simple-streams
Administrator@... ~/mydocs/dl/sbcl-1.0.12 :


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On Dec 1, 2007 8:09 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
>
> On 02.12.2007, at 08:52, Terrence Brannon wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 2007 7:42 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> cygwin's gcc, make &c, along with sbcl itself, can be used to build
> >> sbcl on windows.
> >
> > what command-line would I type to try this build? would I run the
> > command-line under the Windows command shell or a cygwin shell?
>
> The build is done within the cygwin shell.  Make sure sbcl is in the
> path, then cd to the top-level source directory and type "sh
> make.sh".

Ok, now I would like to install the Cygwin version of SBCL-1.0.12.

So I followed the instructions for installing a binary distribution and typed:

   INSTALL_ROOT=/usr/local sh install.sh

Now, the problem is, the core file is not found unless I refer to it
from within the /usr/local/lib/sbcl directory:

Administrator@... ~/mydocs/dl/sbcl-1.0.12 : sbcl
fatal error encountered in SBCL pid 3100:
can't find core file at /usr/local/lib/sbcl//sbcl.core

Administrator@... ~/mydocs/dl/sbcl-1.0.12 : /usr/local/bin/sbcl
--core /usr/local/lib/sbcl/sbcl.core
could not open file "/usr/local/lib/sbcl/sbcl.core"


Administrator@... /usr/local/lib/sbcl : ../../bin/sbcl.exe --core
sbcl.core
This is SBCL 1.0.12, an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp.
More information about SBCL is available at <http://www.sbcl.org/>.

SBCL is free software, provided as is, with absolutely no warranty.
It is mostly in the public domain; some portions are provided under
BSD-style licenses.  See the CREDITS and COPYING files in the
distribution for more information.

This is experimental prerelease support for the Windows platform: use
at your own risk.  "Your Kitten of Death awaits!"
*

The entire install transcript is here:

http://paste.lisp.org/display/52262#2

On Dec 10, 2007 9:59 PM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl@...> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2007 8:09 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
> >
> > On 02.12.2007, at 08:52, Terrence Brannon wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 1, 2007 7:42 PM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> cygwin's gcc, make &c, along with sbcl itself, can be used to build
> > >> sbcl on windows.
> > >
> > > what command-line would I type to try this build? would I run the
> > > command-line under the Windows command shell or a cygwin shell?
> >
> > The build is done within the cygwin shell.  Make sure sbcl is in the
> > path, then cd to the top-level source directory and type "sh
> > make.sh".
>
> Ok, now I would like to install the Cygwin version of SBCL-1.0.12.
>
> So I followed the instructions for installing a binary distribution and typed:
>
>   INSTALL_ROOT=/usr/local sh install.sh
>
> Now, the problem is, the core file is not found unless I refer to it
> from within the /usr/local/lib/sbcl directory:

I got some help from Alastair.

export SBCL_HOME=`cygpath -w /usr/local/lib/sbcl/`

gets it working.

On 11.12.2007, at 12:53, Terrence Brannon wrote:

> On Dec 10, 2007 9:59 PM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl@...> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, now I would like to install the Cygwin version of SBCL-1.0.12.
>>
>> So I followed the instructions for installing a binary distribution  
>> and typed:
>>
>>  INSTALL_ROOT=/usr/local sh install.sh
>>
>> Now, the problem is, the core file is not found unless I refer to it
>> from within the /usr/local/lib/sbcl directory:
>
> I got some help from Alastair.
>
> export SBCL_HOME=`cygpath -w /usr/local/lib/sbcl/`
>
> gets it working.

Why not just make a Windows installer via make-windows-installer.sh?   
sbcl on windows is not a cygwin-native program, and no amount of  
pretending on your part will make it one :)  Granted, the message at  
the end of the compile should mention the non-windowsness of install.sh.

Rudi

On Dec 11, 2007 1:44 AM, Rudi Schlatte <rudi@...> wrote:

> sbcl on windows is not a cygwin-native program, and no amount of
> pretending on your part will make it one :)

lol