Cream (for Vim)

Steve Hall wrote:
> From: Matt Wilkie, Apr 19, 2006 7:21 PM
>> Can this be installed overtop the existing Cream or do I need to 
>> uninstall the old one first? Are my preferences saved?
> 
> It shouldn't affect preferences (the same are used for both). I've
> been using them interchangibly, the only addition is the tabbed
> document preference, and this is conditioned and ignored if vim <
> version 7.

I installed cream 0.36 + vim7.0e to the same root as my old one 
(c:\local\vim).
When I start cream I get the error:

   Error detected while processing VimEnter Auto commands for "*":
   E117: Unknown function: Cream_tabpages_init

I went to Help > About and I'm told I'm using Cream .36 & Vim 7, but 
when I go to 'Help > Vim Help > Overview' it says Vim 6.

I uninstalled Cream + Vim and made sure the install directory was 
deleted (it was there but empty). The uninstall program removed both v6 
and v7 of vim (this is a bug if both versions are supposed to be able to 
exist concurrently).

After reinstalling Cream 0.36 I still get the startup error message, but 
now Vim help agrees on vim 7.

I uninstalled again. The keyboard shortcut [Win]-[C] is still registered 
to Cream ("can't find gvim.exe, searching...")

Re-installed. Still get the startup error. My preferences for font and 
colour theme and recently opened documents are retained from yesterday. 
[Win-C] is still registerd to the old, now missing gvim.exe. I point it 
to the v7 .exe,  and now get the error:

   E282L Cannot read from "c:\local\vim\vim63\cream\creamrc"

I moved "c:\documents and settings\mhwilkie\.cream" somewhere out of the 
way. I still get the startup error though now my preferences are gone.

How do I get a "clean room" install now? Host computer is Windows XP Pro 
Service Pack 2.


thanks,

(( btw, the [x] in front of menu toggles is a good idea. thanks! ))

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On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 17:00 -0700, Matt Wilkie wrote:
> Steve Hall wrote:
> > From: Matt Wilkie, Apr 19, 2006 7:21 PM
> > >
> > > Can this be installed overtop the existing Cream or do I need to
> > > uninstall the old one first? Are my preferences saved?
> > 
> > It shouldn't affect preferences (the same are used for both). I've
> > been using them interchangibly, the only addition is the tabbed
> > document preference, and this is conditioned and ignored if vim <
> > version 7.
> 
> I installed cream 0.36 + vim7.0e to the same root as my old one 
> (c:\local\vim).
> When I start cream I get the error:
> 
> Error detected while processing VimEnter Auto commands for "*":
> E117: Unknown function: Cream_tabpages_init

Whoops, looks like I packaged a slightly stale script, this was one of
the last bugs I fixed. Hmm...

> I went to Help > About and I'm told I'm using Cream .36 & Vim 7, but 
> when I go to 'Help > Vim Help > Overview' it says Vim 6.
>
> I uninstalled Cream + Vim and made sure the install directory was
> deleted (it was there but empty). The uninstall program removed both
> v6 and v7 of vim (this is a bug if both versions are supposed to be
> able to exist concurrently).

Definitely a bug that needs to be solved.

> After reinstalling Cream 0.36 I still get the startup error message,
> but now Vim help agrees on vim 7.

I wonder if the Start Menu shortcuts were still referencing the 6.x
version?

> I uninstalled again. The keyboard shortcut [Win]-[C] is still
> registered to Cream ("can't find gvim.exe, searching...")

Did you re-start in between? I've noticed Windows sometimes retains
this for quite a while after the menu has disappeared. It is also
attached to the original icon, even if you make copies and change
them, their path, and key later on.

> Re-installed. Still get the startup error. My preferences for font
> and colour theme and recently opened documents are retained from
> yesterday. 

Good, this is not in C:\programs..., and never uninstalled.

> [Win-C] is still registerd to the old, now missing
> gvim.exe. I point it to the v7 .exe, and now get the error:
> 
> E282L Cannot read from "c:\local\vim\vim63\cream\creamrc"
> 
> I moved "c:\documents and settings\mhwilkie\.cream" somewhere out of
> the way. I still get the startup error though now my preferences are
> gone.
> 
> How do I get a "clean room" install now? Host computer is Windows XP
> Pro Service Pack 2.

The shortcut is attached to the Start Menu > Programs > Cream > Cream
icon. Once deleted, maybe only a re-start will fix this.

> (( btw, the [x] in front of menu toggles is a good idea. thanks! ))

Thanks for the feedback, in GNU/Linux, it uses a check mark which is
more intuitive IMO, but the "x" is the best I can come up with on
Windows.


-- 
Steve Hall  [ digitect mindspring com ]
:: Cream... something good to put in your Vim!
::   http://cream.sourceforge.net

Hi Steve,

 >> [Win-C] is still registerd to the old, now missing
 >> gvim.exe. I point it to the v7 .exe, and now get the error:
 >>
 >> E282L Cannot read from "c:\local\vim\vim63\cream\creamrc"
...
 > The shortcut is attached to the Start Menu > Programs > Cream > Cream
 > icon. Once deleted, maybe only a re-start will fix this.

After a restart [shift-ctrl-c] starts cream without the shortcut error 
message while [Win-C] does nothing but type a "c" character into the 
active application. If I go to the properties for the Cream shortcut in 
the start menu, and press [win-c] with the cursor in the shortcut key 
text field the shortcut changes to [ctrl-alt-c], and [win-c] still only 
types "c".

It doesn't really matter much to me what the shortcut is so long as it 
exists and works (and I can make it the same on all the computers I use). :)

I still get the "unknown function: Cream_tabpages_init" error on startup.

best regards,

-- 
matt wilkie
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Geographic Information,
Information Management and Technology,
Yukon Department of Environment
10 Burns Road * Whitehorse, Yukon * Y1A 4Y9
867-667-8133 Tel * 867-393-7003 Fax
http://environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/geomatics/
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On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 12:37 -0700, Matt Wilkie wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> > > [Win-C] is still registerd to the old, now missing
> > > gvim.exe. I point it to the v7 .exe, and now get the error:
> > >
> > > E282L Cannot read from "c:\local\vim\vim63\cream\creamrc"

Wait a second, Cream does not map Win+C, only Ctrl+Shift+C. This must
be a mapping you created manually and attached it to some item in your
Start Menu or Desktop.

[snip]
> After a restart [shift-ctrl-c] starts cream without the shortcut
> error message while [Win-C] does nothing but type a "c" character
> into the active application. If I go to the properties for the Cream
> shortcut in the start menu, and press [win-c] with the cursor in the
> shortcut key text field the shortcut changes to [ctrl-alt-c], and
> [win-c] still only types "c".

Does Windows even allow mapping the Win key? I've only been able to do
this on GNU/Linux, and maybe very old versions of Windows.

> It doesn't really matter much to me what the shortcut is so long as
> it exists and works (and I can make it the same on all the computers
> I use). :)

I use Ctrl+Shift+C on both Windows and GNU/Linux, the Windows
installer does the first by default and I have to do the second
manually.

> I still get the "unknown function: Cream_tabpages_init" error on
> startup.

This should be fixed in the next beta, to be released soon.


-- 
Steve Hall  [ digitect mindspring com ]
:: Cream... something good to put in your Vim!
::   http://cream.sourceforge.net