On Tue, 25 May 2004 01:04:04 +0000
lprzeplata@... wrote:
>
> hi !
>
> I posted once one post here, but nevermind.. :)
Oh?
> I'm back with some more feature request/proposal.
Cool! :)
> I tried to trace all problems, major and minor which distract me or
> making troubles, and thought about some other suggestions which could
> improve comfortable work with gentoo. I don't know if any of these was
> posted and answered already, so i don't know if i'm duplicating
> someone's other wish but nevermind. And sorry for my english, i forgot
> a lot. So here are all problems/missing features that i noticed:
Excellent initiative, thanks a lot!
> - icons at buttons (for example: for mcd(mount_cd) there would be an
> icon of cdrom at left side, for alternative there can be too),
Yes, this is a good old idea. I never got around to implementing it,
mainly because the needed interface tends to overwhelm me. Should the
icon be to the left of the text, to the right, either, or anywhere in-
cluding *in* the text?
> - i think it would be better if the size of directories or files in
> upper state line would be for example bold, to be more distinct,
> or all row would be (but first is better option), don't want to
> change GTK theme to this. Anyway a choice to do that.
Well... I'm not even sure I have that amount of programmatic control
over the list headers. Plus, they are in distinctly colored boxes with
mouse-over, I think they stand out very much.
> - more default icons :),
Well, they weren't drawn by me, and I have very little contact with the
guy who did them. I don't know if he still cares about gentoo, or any-
thing.
> - to default uncompress commands make two: Extract here (to current
> dir) and Extract there(?) (to other panel), because
> current commands are making this (means: current 'uncompress'
> command) either that or that, that's confusing,
You might have a point here. This sounds to me like a simple case of
configuration, adding a new action. I'm not totally sure it works to
have spaces in action names, but you can try. :)
> - more this mini-scripts like compress_tar, or at least
[...]
Sure, but I'm a bit afraid of adding things to the default config that
require the user to have loads of external programs. If those programs
are missing, the command fails more or less painfully, which is just
annoying. It is left to the user to configure up gentoo in a way that
suits him or her, and the default config is meant as an inspirational
device, not as a finished solution. This, of course, is lazy of me, but
that's the way it goes. :)
I'd be happy to evaluate for addition any nifty commands you've come up
with, though.
> - to enter manually a command for quick executing on file/-es without
> previous definition. It is helpful, for example when i just want
> to execute a command quickly and once, i don't want to define it,
> just enter this (ie. mplayer {fup}) , optionally select to Run in
> background, etc., even select in what shell do you want to run
> this. This can be beautifully utilized with these mini-scripts, to
> create rour own "Run command.." dialog (and a posiibility to edit
> that menu (popup), i didn't notice that there is such possibility).
This sounds neat, and appeals to my sense of regularity. It really ought
to be possible to do that. It's a bit messy with all the options that a
command requires, however (cd, rescan, capture, et cetera) so it doesn't
"squeeze" into a simple dialog easily. At least not the Run dialog as it
looks now.
But it's a good idea, I'll think a bit about it.
> - comparing content of two panels (by size, name, etc.), wondering
> why it's not here......
I've started on such a comparison at least once, but I tend to run out
of steam. What should it do? Select files that are different? Unselect
files which are the same? Both? Neither? Should it be possible to do the
comparison on any (set of?) columns? It becomes rather complicated to
set up the input for the comparison.
> - to change to second panel witchout selecting anything, with mouse
> not with TAB :), (little but annoying),
You can right-click, and then abort the menu, or click in the path entry
box and then hit escape. If you have a simpler suggestion, please feel
free to make it. Perhaps change the active pane when the scrollbar is
clicked? Not even sure if that's doable, though, and it'd probably need
to be an option in any case.
> - well, an ftp connection :), but i guess i already seen that in the
> TODO so i won't request that ;). Hmmm..again there could be
> used these mini-gui-scripts ,
Nothing much happening there, either. I don't have a suitable VFS layer
to use, and lack the time/energy to design and implement one myself.
> - hmmmm..how to _easy_ copy name of file/dir from (dialog "Rename")
> to another (ie. "Mkdir"). I just didn't seem there is
> a way to do that without copying this first elsewhere (notes
> (Xfce4) or editor). Ctrl+c doesn't work, i guess if there was a
> possibility when for example these two dialogs can be simultanously
> displayed, so this second way would probably be working
> (now rename dialog dissapear before another dialog can be opened),
> but i wonder why ctrl+v and ctrl+c doesn't work.
> ............
> Sorry, after a while I guess i know how: "selecting text"-copying
> works well, because my clipboard panel-plugin (Xfce4) shows name of
> file cut, so after selecting it middle-button pasting it correctly.
> But still there are people without Xfce4 + clipboard panel.
True, this is harder than it should be, but I think I'm going to blame
GTK+ for that one. Heh.
> A least needed/possible:
> - in viewing an archive like zip with default command, it would
> increase readilibity if these rows (meaning filenames) would be
> straight, they usually aren't:
[...]
As you realized, this text comes straight from whatever tool is used
(unzip, tar, etc) and is not interpreted or formatted by gentoo in any
way. I would consider adding code to match the output and create proper
columns to be bloat of the worst kind. Fun to write, sure, but still
bloat. :)
> possible/worth. But...hmmm...i remember that one feature in
> TODO is VFS, so maybe when it's done it could be used to
> simplyfi/customize this, and not using external command to do that.
> (I don't want that option (View_zip for example) to go away when
> VFS is ready, because it allow me to view ALL content of archive at
> once, in VFS as virtual dir i would have to click all dirs in it to
> know all contest :( .).
As I said, there's not a lot of progress on the VFS front, so don't hold
your breath waiting.
> Anyway, i would also vote for possibility of customizing a back-
> and foreground color in these commands (ViewText), that would
> increase readibility too, making this independent from current GTK
> theme.
Sure, just use the .gentoogtkrc style file, the widget name for the text
view is "txvText". See the README.gtkrc file, too.
Thanks a lot for your input!
Regards,
/Emil
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