OpenZaurus

Hi!

This first problem was a known bug, and it is fixed in newer versions imho -
try commenting out all other destinations you are not installing to.

Denes

On 2002. december 29. 20:01, David Kramer wrote:
> Background: OZ3.0 on a 5500, had it a week or two now.
> 256MB Lexar SD card, ext2 formatted
>
> First of all, when I try to install packages, they always seem to install
> on / even when I specify "-dest sd".  To verify, I would do a df -h before
> and after, and /dev/mtdblock4 would grow (which I think is the flash
> "ROM").  The bottom of my /etc/ipkg.conf looks like this:
>
> dest root /
> dest mtdram /mnt/ram
> dest sd /mnt/card
> dest cf /mnt/cf

Hi!

> > This first problem was a known bug, and it is fixed in newer versions
>
> You mean 3.1rc?
Yes, it is fixed know afaict.

> Yes, commenting the other "dest"s out seemed to fix the install problem in
> that if I tell it to install something it "ipkg files" and "ipkg info"
> agree. However, I'm still not getting icons for the apps I install.  I read
> that you have to restart opie, and I don't know how to do that, so I typed
> in "reboot" They still didn't show up when it came back though.
>
> <fumble grumble google>
>
> OK, I just found that you can use the rotation app to restart Opie.  And I
> figured out I can ln -s the .desktop files, but some apps,like SafeDee,
> don't seem to work even after that.  Do I need to symling ALL the files? 
> Surely someone has fixed that or automated that.

You might be missing "ipkg-link add xmms-e "
where xmms-e = whatever you are trying to install

bye
Denes

There are many things which could cause /dev/mtdblock4 to grow - look, 
it's only growing about 4k, which is miniscule - I don't know the specs, 
but perhaps the smallest amount possible for a jffs2 filesystem to grow. 
Your packages are installing to SD.

Upgrade ipkg and aqpkg from the 'unstable' feed (information is on 
openzaurus.org) to get the latest and greatest. The 'ipkg files' bug you 
mention is a bug in ipkg, and the newest aqpkg has some nice tools for 
showing which packages are installed, which packages need upgrading, etc.

Oh, and having 140k free on / is dangerous - you should uninstall some 
programs from / and install them onto /mnt/card. Use the newest ipkg 
from the unstable feed - older versions of ipkg would 'remember' the old 
location and install them to /.

Adam Hooper
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David Kramer wrote:
> Background: OZ3.0 on a 5500, had it a week or two now.
> 256MB Lexar SD card, ext2 formatted
> 
> First of all, when I try to install packages, they always seem to install on / 
> even when I specify "-dest sd".  To verify, I would do a df -h before and 
> after, and /dev/mtdblock4 would grow (which I think is the flash "ROM").  The 
> bottom of my /etc/ipkg.conf looks like this:
> 
> dest root /
> dest mtdram /mnt/ram
> dest sd /mnt/card
> dest cf /mnt/cf
> 
> But I'm also getting funny things like it says a package is installed, but if 
> I do "ipgk files" it says it isn't installed:
> 
> # ipkg info zsafe
> Package: zsafe
> Version: 2.0.0ern
> Depends: qpe-base ($QPE_VERSION)
> Status: install ok installed
> Section: Applications
> Architecture: arm
> Maintainer: Robert Ernst <robert.ernst@...>
> MD5sum: 7d151968828d7d9865d4a9f34bb14438
> Size: 60203
> Filename: zsafe_2.0.0ern_arm.ipk
> Description: A Password Manger Program
>  The program stores password data RC2 encrypted into different categories.
> # ipkg files zsafe
> Package zsafe not installed.
> # find / -name zsafe
> /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/zsafe
> find: /proc/12/fd: No such file or directory
> find: /proc/93/fd: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> Here's another example:
> # df -h
> Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/mtdblock4           14.1M     14.0M    148.0k  99% /
> /dev/mtdblock6           15.5M     18.0k     14.7M   0% /mnt/ram
> /dev/mmcda1             236.2M     65.8M    158.3M  29% /mnt/card
> # ipkg -dest sd install http://www.bundu.com/download/SafeDee_1.0.1_arm.ipk
> Downloading http://www.bundu.com/download/SafeDee_1.0.1_arm.ipk
> Installing SafeDee (1.0.1)
> Configuring SafeDee...Done
> # df -h
> Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/mtdblock4           14.1M     14.0M    144.0k  99% /
> /dev/mtdblock6           15.5M     18.0k     14.7M   0% /mnt/ram
> /dev/mmcda1             236.2M     66.1M    158.0M  29% /mnt/card
> # ipkg files SafeDee
> Package SafeDee not installed.
> # ipkg info SafeDee
> Package: SafeDee
> Version: 1.0.1
> Depends: qpe-base (1.5.0)
> Status: install ok installed
> # find / -name SafeDee
> /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/SafeDee
> 
> 
> Also, is there a ipkg command to see what packages are installed?
> 
> What about which ones are installed on a particular device? 
> 
> Thanks in advance.  I hate when computers contradict themselves.
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On Sunday 29 December 2002 07:32 pm, Adam Hooper wrote:
> There are many things which could cause /dev/mtdblock4 to grow - look,
> it's only growing about 4k, which is miniscule - I don't know the specs,
> but perhaps the smallest amount possible for a jffs2 filesystem to grow.
> Your packages are installing to SD.

I respectfully disagree.  If I install a package, and the amount of free space 
on / decreases while the amount of free space on all other filesystems 
remains constant, that's a pretty strong indication that the files are on the 
root filesystem.
 
> Upgrade ipkg and aqpkg from the 'unstable' feed (information is on
> openzaurus.org) to get the latest and greatest. The 'ipkg files' bug you
> mention is a bug in ipkg, and the newest aqpkg has some nice tools for
> showing which packages are installed, which packages need upgrading, etc.

Yes, and that bug is what was causing packages to be installed on the root 
filesystem. Balatoni Denes emailed me offlist about this, and told me the 
workaround was to comment out all other destinations in /etc/ipkg.conf, which 
makes sense.

> Oh, and having 140k free on / is dangerous - you should uninstall some
> programs from / and install them onto /mnt/card. Use the newest ipkg
> from the unstable feed - older versions of ipkg would 'remember' the old
> location and install them to /.

Once again, that was my point.  I've been using *NIX for 12 years.  The trick 
is knowing how to figure out what packages are installed on / (Balatoni told 
me about ipkg-link, which can do this also), then knowing which ones can 
safely be moved.

I put Konqueror on / which is the bulk of it, so maybe I'll move that, but I 
would rather leave that there so it starts up quicker, and move some other 
stuff.  But I have to select that other stuff, because I don't know what it 
came with and what I installed.

If you say the newer ipkg will fix some of these problems, I'll check that 
out.  Thanks.

Truth be told, I'm getting a little tired of some problems I'm having with 
OZ3.0, and I may revert to the Sharp ROM if 3.1 doesn't get released soon.

>
> Adam Hooper
> adamh@...
>
> David Kramer wrote:
> > Background: OZ3.0 on a 5500, had it a week or two now.
> > 256MB Lexar SD card, ext2 formatted
> >
> > First of all, when I try to install packages, they always seem to install
> > on / even when I specify "-dest sd".  To verify, I would do a df -h
> > before and after, and /dev/mtdblock4 would grow (which I think is the
> > flash "ROM").  The bottom of my /etc/ipkg.conf looks like this:
> >
> > dest root /
> > dest mtdram /mnt/ram
> > dest sd /mnt/card
> > dest cf /mnt/cf
> >
> > But I'm also getting funny things like it says a package is installed,
> > but if I do "ipgk files" it says it isn't installed:
> >
> > # ipkg info zsafe
> > Package: zsafe
> > Version: 2.0.0ern
> > Depends: qpe-base ($QPE_VERSION)
> > Status: install ok installed
> > Section: Applications
> > Architecture: arm
> > Maintainer: Robert Ernst <robert.ernst@...>
> > MD5sum: 7d151968828d7d9865d4a9f34bb14438
> > Size: 60203
> > Filename: zsafe_2.0.0ern_arm.ipk
> > Description: A Password Manger Program
> >  The program stores password data RC2 encrypted into different
> > categories. # ipkg files zsafe
> > Package zsafe not installed.
> > # find / -name zsafe
> > /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/zsafe
> > find: /proc/12/fd: No such file or directory
> > find: /proc/93/fd: No such file or directory
> >
> >
> > Here's another example:
> > # df -h
> > Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/mtdblock4           14.1M     14.0M    148.0k  99% /
> > /dev/mtdblock6           15.5M     18.0k     14.7M   0% /mnt/ram
> > /dev/mmcda1             236.2M     65.8M    158.3M  29% /mnt/card
> > # ipkg -dest sd install
> > http://www.bundu.com/download/SafeDee_1.0.1_arm.ipk Downloading
> > http://www.bundu.com/download/SafeDee_1.0.1_arm.ipk
> > Installing SafeDee (1.0.1)
> > Configuring SafeDee...Done
> > # df -h
> > Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/mtdblock4           14.1M     14.0M    144.0k  99% /
> > /dev/mtdblock6           15.5M     18.0k     14.7M   0% /mnt/ram
> > /dev/mmcda1             236.2M     66.1M    158.0M  29% /mnt/card
> > # ipkg files SafeDee
> > Package SafeDee not installed.
> > # ipkg info SafeDee
> > Package: SafeDee
> > Version: 1.0.1
> > Depends: qpe-base (1.5.0)
> > Status: install ok installed
> > # find / -name SafeDee
> > /mnt/card/opt/QtPalmtop/bin/SafeDee
> >
> >
> > Also, is there a ipkg command to see what packages are installed?
> >
> > What about which ones are installed on a particular device?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.  I hate when computers contradict themselves.
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* David Kramer (david@...) wrote:
> On Sunday 29 December 2002 07:32 pm, Adam Hooper wrote:
> I respectfully disagree.  If I install a package, and the amount of free space 
> on / decreases while the amount of free space on all other filesystems 
> remains constant, that's a pretty strong indication that the files are on the 
> root filesystem.

There are a number of symlinks back to the rootfs created, one per file.
Said symlinks do take space, if not much.  Simply ensure that you run
ipkg-link remove packagename prior to removing hte package, if using the
cmldine ipkg.  Periodically doing a find for dead symlinks may be
worthwhile .. actually, it may be worth setting that up as a cronjob in
OZ.. we'll need cron once we get prelink going anyway.

> Truth be told, I'm getting a little tired of some problems I'm having with 
> OZ3.0, and I may revert to the Sharp ROM if 3.1 doesn't get released soon.

3.1 is another couple weeks out.  We're nearly finished with the work on
the new kernel.. give another week for testing, then 3.1rc2 will
release, with 2.4.19-rmk4-cl1, plus latest wireless drivers for both
HostAP and socket/symbol, and numerous other improvements, which I will
not list here.  3.1's release date will depend on the results of the
second release candidate.  Thanks 

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Chris Larson
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OpenZaurus Project Maintainer - http://openzaurus.org/

David Kramer wrote:
> On Sunday 29 December 2002 07:32 pm, Adam Hooper wrote:
> 
>>There are many things which could cause /dev/mtdblock4 to grow - look,
>>it's only growing about 4k, which is miniscule - I don't know the specs,
>>but perhaps the smallest amount possible for a jffs2 filesystem to grow.
>>Your packages are installing to SD.
> 
> 
> I respectfully disagree.  If I install a package, and the amount of free space 
> on / decreases while the amount of free space on all other filesystems 
> remains constant, that's a pretty strong indication that the files are on the 
> root filesystem.

Okay, I slightly-less-respectfully disagree with that - the amount of 
space on /dev/mmcda1 has definitely changed by around 300k, I've checked 
it 5 times now :).

Adam Hooper
adamh@...

On Sunday 29 December 2002 09:48 pm, David Kramer wrote:
> On Sunday 29 December 2002 07:32 pm, Adam Hooper wrote:

> I put Konqueror on / which is the bulk of it, so maybe I'll move that, but
> I would rather leave that there so it starts up quicker, and move some
> other stuff.  But I have to select that other stuff, because I don't know
> what it came with and what I installed.
>
> If you say the newer ipkg will fix some of these problems, I'll check that
> out.  Thanks.

OK, this was a self-inflicted wound, but I think I'm really sunk now.  I'm 
continuing to bang my head against it, but I could use some advice.

I installed the newer ipkg and aqpkg, but then I realized my /etc/ipkg.conf 
was still pointing at /mnt/card, so there would be two ipkg packages 
installed in two different places.  Yes, I did.  I actually typed in "ipkg 
remove ipkg". I still have a /usr/bin/ipkg file 
-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        28672 Dec 30 03:15 /usr/bin/ipkg
but I get a "bus error" when I run it. 

I thought I would be clever and download the ipkg package to my linux box and 
tar xvzf the file, because I read that .ipk files were just .tgz files with a 
certain file layout, but all efforts to do so have produced errors that the 
file isn't in gzip format.  I also tried "gunzip -cd -"'ing the files on the 
Z, but then I got "gunzip: Invalid gzip magic".  There must be something more 
to the .ipk files than they say.

My last chance I think is to beg someone to send me a tar file with the ipkg 
binary executables and libraries, then just untar them in in the root 
directory.  Shouldn't that work?

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Hi!

> My last chance I think is to beg someone to send me a tar file with the
> ipkg binary executables and libraries, then just untar them in in the root
> directory.  Shouldn't that work?

Imho it's easer to flash oz3.1rc1 and update to unstable with aqpkg.
some say it's more stable than any oz before - I agree, maybe you will not I 
don't know.

bye
Denes

Am Mon, 2002-12-30 um 06.03 schrieb David Kramer:


> I installed the newer ipkg and aqpkg, but then I realized my /etc/ipkg.conf 
> was still pointing at /mnt/card, so there would be two ipkg packages 
> installed in two different places.  Yes, I did.  I actually typed in "ipkg 
> remove ipkg". I still have a /usr/bin/ipkg file 
> -rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        28672 Dec 30 03:15 /usr/bin/ipkg
> but I get a "bus error" when I run it. 

well could be hard to really delete a file you are just now using i guess. That ipgk is probably the crippeled rest,

left after your uninstall.



> I thought I would be clever and download the ipkg package to my linux box and 
> tar xvzf the file, because I read that .ipk files were just .tgz files with a 
> certain file layout, but all efforts to do so have produced errors that the 
> file isn't in gzip format.  I also tried "gunzip -cd -"'ing the files on the 
> Z, but then I got "gunzip: Invalid gzip magic".  There must be something more 
> to the .ipk files than they say.

its not a tar anymore but a ar i guess unar would do the trick



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"ar x <ipkg file>" and the rest can be handled with tar.

Adam Hooper
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David Kramer wrote:
> On Sunday 29 December 2002 09:48 pm, David Kramer wrote:
> 
>>On Sunday 29 December 2002 07:32 pm, Adam Hooper wrote:
> 
> 
>>I put Konqueror on / which is the bulk of it, so maybe I'll move that, but
>>I would rather leave that there so it starts up quicker, and move some
>>other stuff.  But I have to select that other stuff, because I don't know
>>what it came with and what I installed.
>>
>>If you say the newer ipkg will fix some of these problems, I'll check that
>>out.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> OK, this was a self-inflicted wound, but I think I'm really sunk now.  I'm 
> continuing to bang my head against it, but I could use some advice.
> 
> I installed the newer ipkg and aqpkg, but then I realized my /etc/ipkg.conf 
> was still pointing at /mnt/card, so there would be two ipkg packages 
> installed in two different places.  Yes, I did.  I actually typed in "ipkg 
> remove ipkg". I still have a /usr/bin/ipkg file 
> -rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        28672 Dec 30 03:15 /usr/bin/ipkg
> but I get a "bus error" when I run it. 
> 
> I thought I would be clever and download the ipkg package to my linux box and 
> tar xvzf the file, because I read that .ipk files were just .tgz files with a 
> certain file layout, but all efforts to do so have produced errors that the 
> file isn't in gzip format.  I also tried "gunzip -cd -"'ing the files on the 
> Z, but then I got "gunzip: Invalid gzip magic".  There must be something more 
> to the .ipk files than they say.
> 
> My last chance I think is to beg someone to send me a tar file with the ipkg 
> binary executables and libraries, then just untar them in in the root 
> directory.  Shouldn't that work?
> 
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On Monday 30 December 2002 07:23 am, Adam Hooper wrote:
> "ar x <ipkg file>" and the rest can be handled with tar.
>
> Adam Hooper
> adamh@...

Shweet.  Thanks, that did it.

I unpacked it, made a tar file with all the files in the right place, untarred 
it, and now it works.

Thanks.
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